Kharvok
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No it's very restrictive and lacks the MMO feel
No sense of exploration
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I can't believe the company that made WAR and DAOC doesn't have good pvp in a high budget MMO.
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level was an accomplishment in EQ. It was also a group effort. Literally when you leveled it made a "ding" sound.
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I don't see what people are talking about "all MMO's" they really just mean, WoW and RIFT.
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This company (kind of) brought us DAOC and WAR, so it is right to expect big, good pvp.
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I think a lot of MMO players want the tools to make their own story. Not be told what to do and what you are.
That said I haven't found the story in SWTOR to be that good. After about level 13 I figured out that my dialogue choices had virtually no effect on the story arc or the environment.
Given the choice I think I would have rather had KOTOR3. This seems awkwardly placed between MMO and single player.
I think this will end up being a niche game for Bioware fans, I don't think it contains the features or scope to retain the larger MMO crowd.
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I personally don't have much time to play. So when I play I don't want to listen to NPC's talk and basically say "Go kill X and bring it back"
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It will be a niche game. I don't think that the mmo community cares so much about story that they would give up their standard features or the pursuit of more innovative things.
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this would make this the best game ever.
For now, it's just KOTOR with a chat box. Very few MMO elements.
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I'm suprised this discussion died
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I completely skip cutscenes and cinematics. If I wanted that I would go play KOTOR. you know a game with a good story. A game where your dialogue choices matter.
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Because this game has to be just like WoW in every aspect.
EDIT: Oh yeah, except voice acting.
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It has lightsabers.
Other than that I think the single player story premise ultimately will cripple the game long term and make it a niche game. You can't have individual epic story arcs when you are constrained by MMO play. The two are hindering each other.
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Most people in this thread are mistaken. Mainly because most of their gaming experience only comes from World of Warcraft. You are concerned because you saw how Warcraft Arena play panned out.
Balancing the game around PvP is absolutely fine. Balancing the game around 1v1 , 2v2, and 3v3 small scale situations is where you run into trouble.
Games do not have to keep up the constant balancing act if they balance PvP around group play. This means balancing overall class mechanics and how they play in a full group for PvP, not how they play against every single other class. I would assume this is going to be the route that will be taken considering DAOC and WAR did this and are Mythic games.
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Sure, some of the daily grind and the go and kill x creatures missions are pretty much the same.
But . . .
SWTOR: Five companions to pick from and gear
WOW: Some have pets and some can summon things, but
SWTOR: Companions that do crafting and gathering
WOW: Um, no
SWTOR: Space battles (sure to be expanded and improved)
WOW: Ohh, pretty stars
SWTOR: Legacy systems connecting all your alts and family trees
WOW: All my characters start with the letter "A"
SWTOR: Hey, I really like this armor and can upgrade it to make if viable the whole game
WOW: Must get next tier of armor or be left behind in stats
Are there similarities? Sure there are. But are there things that set SWTOR apart, definatly!!!!
All this is fluff. The crafting is still pointless. Putting voice acting in an MMO isn't innovative. it's just fluff. I could care less about story. I just want to raid and have massive pvp battles
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All of what the OP said needs to happen for me to stay personally
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The cramped, vacant, dead world design is my complaint with the game. That will never be fixed. Time to move on. I wish this game would have been actually "innovative"
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The easiest way I know to sum it up is this.
The planets do not feel so much like a "world". They are far more like static "maps". They are highly restrictive. This is not a feature of modern MMO's. They really missed the mark with this part of the game.
I would kill for World of Warcraft or Darkfall world design in this game. TOR just simply plays too much like a single player game. The single player elements are then half-done because of the restriction of the game being an MMO (ie. character dialogue choices not having effect on the game enviorment) This is why once I level to 50, I most likely won't be sticking around.
EDIT: Also, I absolutely abhor "sharding".
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Yeah I am thoroughly dissapointed with the lack of Pvp in the game. I thought something would be "innovative"
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I barely consider this an MMO. It's missing so much to be considered that.
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lord of the rings is the same way and alot of people enjoy that game
whats your point ?
And..... lotro wasn't successful and had to go free to play. Also, It did not contain pvp.
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This thread is now closed.
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The game doesn't so much seem to contain worlds. The "worlds" seem to be highly restrictive maps. Lots of funneling. Which is great for causing havoc in world pvp, but not great for enjoyment.
Also this thread will be closed soon because it contains criticism.
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Any thread that seems to contain criticism is getting deleted.
Do You Like SWTOR In It's Current State? YES/NO
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Oh when you mean "explore the galaxy" you actually mean level through zones in a tunneled fashion and play starfox in your little spaceship.