this is the one reason game is in the state it is, the masses are divided, but that's ok when swtor loses the rebel rousers and only has fanboy's left i see the end of this game. i don't care about the new race, my concern is the non cosmetic issues but seems we see more outrage over bullcrap kittys......

Carbonic Crystals, i don't know what you mean not used i use them to make augments with my synthweaver.

wow, is waiting for you...and nothing wrong with that..

sounds cool, i remember the last day of beta for sto when the borg attacked the federation starport then klingons was cool we need more like this in swtor spice it up.

Since beta Some of the options do not work one in general is the option to find gear used by companions without having to go through all the other non essential crap would be nice if that one day was fixed. would like to see a option to click on item you wish to list or look up without having to type it in everytime, it might be there but i have found nothing that tells you how to do this other than manual input.

i understand this i said if they make the game this way it is unfair to subs, i even listed items that have been rumored to be cartel points only .> rumored.

so we pay $14.99 a month and have to pay for additional content yeah right ill save up them cartel points i have a better idea ill just cancel and use my $14.99 on a game where i don't have to pay for content when i already do. bw/ea needs to have a wide separation between f2p and subs, f2p are getting options that subs should have included in subscription and not asked to use cartel option to get new items pretty poor marketing practice in my view. we already see many options that subs have that f2p would need to purchase a f2p who might buy 2 cartel packs or points could switch to the sub option and get much more i see nothing enticing the potential new sub seems something bw/ea is not interested in. when i say cartel items i do not mean gear or packs i am referring to content and content only such as cosmetic race change barbershop dyes and so on all the packs and crap i don't need.

i agree with you this type of marketing is designed for f2p but why are the subs being treated like f2p... next thing i see coming is if you want customer service you will need to buy cartel coins to get a few minutes with peggy.

it's true i had it happen on my sith sorc before i started the class mission last two fights. pretty bad QA team they have at BW/EA they miss a lot of the little things, but it's ok they did a good job with new expac ill forgive them..

deal with it, you seem to be on attack mode on every thread i ever read in here. you have an opinion and thats all it is everyone has one!

If i have to buy cartel points to gain a feature i should get as a paid sub i'll cancel and go play something else and i would hope others would do the same thing. also with the new internet taxing coming soon some of these cartel buying players will be paying more so watch out BW/EA you might not want to piss off the subs again pass that on to the chief in charge at EA pogo Land

Bullcrap,just stop with the oh wow this and oh wow that it is getting old and most of you sound silly, play the game! all you hear in gen chat my auto targeting does not work lol, now this. oh and i played ffxiv in beta and release it was a trainwreck and ffxiv already said they wanted to be like wow and would use many of the concepts that are in place, wow worked made a lot of money and set a standard for mmo's unlike some we see today. so go on kick the lich king in his nads but the fact is wow still is kicking all others mmo's butts still today, is it better looking the swtor NO! does it have less issues Yes! now you can troll off that i gave you something to feed off. by the way there is no difference between wow's gen/trade chat and swtor's still same topics still same type of idiots loiter and disrupt same type of comments in the forums nothing changes just the title of the game. P.S i also told the morons in the wow forums just reverse of what i said here both games appeal to different players bases sometimes they get players who like both genres.

Gosh i hope panda's are next i Sooooo want a panda jedi:rak_01:

Hey i see they added the mouse's from the kia Soul car tv commercial in correla they stand next to the wookie's at least the new cathar's will get a free lunch...

I see new names coming with the cathars in 2.1 Garfield Morris **** n Boots SithKitty octojedipussy spin off of James Bond movie title more to follow

mafia does not exist forget about it.....or else capisce

if they felt the way you think they did we would see f2p in wow has it stands f2p to 20 no guilds no trades no mailing to friends so i do not see them going f2p when they still have the subs they get plus the buying of the game itself not going to happen, after reading your response i can tell you know nothing about how blizzard works and handles their games...proof is in the pudding f2p is pretty much people who want to have a low level twink that pvp's for free and thats about it.

if they have the same team that did d3 working on it expect major fail, if they have the sc2 team i see win all over it.

prove me wrong you are saying that i am so lets see you don't know , all i know is they are working on this project and will soon see announcements.. fact is you can't you are just speculating what they have in mind if you did you would not even make remarks on it.

they do it's called titan...

No but you listed games that came long after the ones i mentioned and you should have if you were going to take that path.

we care truly we do will all stop commenting to please you STOP EVERYONE PLEASE I THINK WE HAVE HURT SOMEBODY'S FEELINGS:)

technically you both are wrong; In 1974, Mazewar introduced the first graphic virtual world, providing a first-person perspective view of a maze in which players roamed around shooting at each other. It was also the first networked game, in which players at different computers could visually interact in a virtual space. The initial implementation was over a serial cable, but when one of the authors began attending MIT in 1974, the game was enhanced so that it could be played across the ARPAnet, forerunner of the modern Internet. Will Crowther's Adventure. You haven't lived until you've died in MUD. -- The MUD1 Slogan. Adventure, created in 1975 by Will Crowther on a DEC PDP-10 computer, was the first widely used adventure game. The game was significantly expanded in 1976 by Don Woods. Adventure contained many D&D features and references, including a computer controlled dungeon master. Inspired by Adventure, a group of students at MIT, in the summer of 1977 wrote a game called Zork for the PDP-10. It became quite popular on the ARPANET. Zork was ported under the name Dungeon to FORTRAN by a programmer working at DEC in 1978. In 1978 Roy Trubshaw, a student at Essex University in the UK, started working on a multi-user adventure game in the MACRO-10 assembly language for a DEC PDP-10. He named the game MUD (Multi-User Dungeon), in tribute to the Dungeon variant of Zork, which Trubshaw had greatly enjoyed playing.Trubshaw converted MUD to BCPL (the predecessor of C), before handing over development to Richard Bartle, a fellow student at Essex University, in 1980. MUD, better known as Essex MUD and MUD1 in later years, ran on the Essex University network until late 1987. The popularity of MUDs of the Essex University tradition escalated in the USA during the 1980s when affordable personal computers with 300 to 2400 bit/s modems enabled role-players to log into multi-line Bulletin Board Systems and online service providers such as CompuServe. During this time it was sometimes said that MUD stands for "Multi Undergraduate Destroyer" due to their popularity among college students and the amount of time devoted to them. Many MUDs are still active and a number of influential MMORPG designers, such as Raph Koster, Brad McQuaid,[Matt Firor, Mark Jacobs, Brian Green, and J. Todd Coleman, began as MUD developers and/or players. The history of MMORPGs grows directly out of the history of MUDs. You have just been Sheldon-Ized.....Bahzinga

in all fairness wow did take a move from the sith the death grip is straight out of this game and was added recently i laughed so hard i was almost about to rename my dk SithChoke but somebody beat me to it. Let me just add there is nothing wrong if you like wow or another game to get butthurt over a general discussion about similarities in games is not supposed to be a combustible ion cylinder. chillax enjoy you can like any game you wish hell you paid for it.

archeology wasn't itself an original idea. it was in wow and yes it has been around long before video game's name a mmo that had archeology, a mmo not laura croft.