What is bearable ping? I really want a good solid server I came from bastion and there was great competition there but just not the population. Just switched to harbinger and played 10 solo q matches on my op that I haven't played in 4 months and still destroyed people. It seems to me the quality isn't on harb although they have an awesome population. I'm not talking bad about harbinger I was just used to a certain level of play and I was surprised at how easy it was just to pick up my toon and feel like a god again. That was only one night and I did play with/against a few good players that were even more noticeable with the teams they were on so maybe I just had bad luck. But as all decent to good pvpers know I want to put myself against the best and get destroyed until I learn to be the best or fail hard enough to quit lol.

So it does for sure do more damage? Than that makes sense. The tooltip makes it seem as if their damage is on par.

Veiled strike over shiv at 60? I'm currently leveling my op and was wondering the rationale behind this choice for most every op/scoundrel. I know they share a cd but vs is 15 energy whereas shiv is only 10?

i play on swiftsure and there is constantly at least 200 in either rep or imp fleet and on my imp there is a imp fleet 1 with 250 or more on at all times and an imp fleet 2 with anywhere between 20 to 200 players. So before you say this is a low pop game and needs to be merged look at the server list at certain times i have to wait for a que still.

ok this is actually subject im very interested in. I leveled all the way to 50 in an immortal build. At 50 though i tried rage in pvp just for fun and loved the crit and the complaints about the survivability can be solved just by a simple change in gear i currently wear 4 pieces of tanking champ gear and 1 piece of dmg gear. for rage spec you are supposed to use shi-cho form which i found to be very inefficient. In my build i stay in soresu form because with 4 pieces of tank gear you get a 5% dmg boost while you guard another player. So to explain this better in soresu form i get huge amounts of dmg reduction plus the potential for prot medals. Yes you wont see the 7-9k crits but i dont finish any wz without at least 200k and 9 medals (at least 3 prot medals). If you like rage build this is the way to optimize it. But have yet to try vengence yet and really considering it.

Riverside/corona here!!! SO Cal ftw!