Enlighten us and compare the issues admitted by the developers here and the ones on WoW. Gameplay issues, not social/exploitation issues, because I mean, let's face it. That credit exploit that allowed people to gain millions of credits an hour? Good bye economy.

It's because the things WoW has have become industry standard, just like an air conditioner in a car. Sure, you don't need a combat log, but damn, it sure is nice to have one.

I know a game that has major issues acknowledged by the developers is better than the most populated MMO and an unreleased one.

It feels more like Bioware is changing target audiences to more casual gamers, making most things streamlined, and when you throw in some corner cutting here and there, it shows majorly to people who have come to expect more from a company.

I'm sorry, what? Space in a game is a MAJOR cost now?

Wanting a finished engine that doesn't need two .exe's makes me a troll.

LOLno. Ever had a companion come back from a crafting mission while you were doing something else that for some reason REQUIRES the right side window?

And some people can see good in the game, just not enough good to justify spending $15 a month on it.

Not exactly fail, but it also won't be as big as I and many other people had hoped it to be. Or then again, they may add in a patch that makes everything perfect, and we can all dance and rejoice.

Aye, I don't really plan on buying GW2, and I don't think anything will beat out WoW for a few simple reasons, one of which being it can appeal to both types of gamers, and another being it's used by so many people, you can get involved easily with a friend who plays it. I'm not saying it will kill WoW, and I think any game that tries to tote itself as that is setting itself up for failure, but I do think the launch will be better than this one, at least feedback wise. I have enjoyed parts of this game, but I'm not much of a carrot-on-a-stick being the only way to have fun in it, which is pretty much all I've seen. Then again, I came from SWG, so I may be a bit biased.

So far in the beta, you mean an XP boost? Because leveling faster makes you better at a class/profession/skill

If you're looking to get into the lore after the Battle of Endor, I HIGHLY recommend the Thrawn trilogy, by Timothy Zahn. He's a great writer, and Thrawn is my favorite Star Wars character due to his depth and brilliance. Old republic was pretty much covered in the post before me. Most Star wars books are good, and I enjoyed Karen Traviss's work on the Clone Commandos, though not her work on Legacy of the Force. However, LotF is a must read, after the Jedi Academy series. I wish I'd never read any of them, just so I could read them all again.

That may be, but that wasn't my point. The poster I quoted stated something along the lines of hyped things being bad. Oh, and I missed it, but I'm pretty sure LotRo is still going strong?

Species: Yuuzahn Vong - Highly resolute, scary, fanatics about purity. Creature: Tie between Sarlaac and like a poster before me stated, the crystalline arachnids of the Kessel Spice mines.

But see, GW2 isn't being developed by people who's games have been declining since they were bought. See DA:2 and to an extent ME2. A very minute extent. As well, GW2 isn't being pushed on the Single-player aspect of a Massive-MULTIPLAYER Online game. Which puzzles me when people say that this was meant to be an MMO, when the standard Developer response to being bored at end-game is to roll another character for the story.

If you say so. At least WoW doesn't run on a single threaded engine that needs two .exe's to run properly.

Didn't know where else to rant. Don't have the changes people want in this game pertain to something SWG ALREADY had? I miss SWG. People say this game is better, the only way I can see it is is for casual players who literally do NOT have more than two hours at a time on, as you could get a fair amount done in SWG in two hours, and the voice overs. It had quests. No, they weren't out at launch, but they were there, and more diverse than the ones in this game. And hell, Legacy was one big *** long quest from 5-55/60ish. Sure, it got boring (NABOO), but it was an interesting story. Kashyyk was a themepark. I never did like it as much as I did the other planets, but I liked it. It had player housing. It was nice to go into random peoples houses and leave them a mail telling them you liked their decor, then getting a mail back thanking you. To have a house on a mountain side, with windows, just sitting and chatting with your friends in the house, and watching the sun set. That may be part of what I'm missing too. The feeling of community SWG had. Sure, you'd ride your speeder around Tantooine, out in the desert, and rarely come across someone, but if you wanted companionship, it was as easy as going to Mos Eisley. Or Coronet. You could hit up almost anyone to help you. In SWTOR, I've run people through a few FPs, but it doesn't feel nearly the same as helping someone in a SWG instance. I'm sorry, but so far, NK Necrosis as a Ent buffed Dark Jedi was harder than these Flashpoints. I'm not max yet, but is there anything that can compare to the DWB? Where even experienced groups wiped, after the AI re-upgrade? I also miss the openness.. Even the vast deserts of Tantooine rarely felt...empty. There was always something. And the things that made it more real, like on Naboo. Little things, like butterflies flitting among the grass, or leaves floating down from trees. Or even a Sandstorm on Tantooine. Things that made it more than just a game. Things that made it like a second home. I have alot more to say, but I guess it's comparing apples to oranges. A sandbox to a theme park. Even WoW was less themeparkish, at least to me. And no, not current day OMGSOPOLISHED WoW either. This game feels like someone tried to splice KOTOR and an MMO, which I guess is what resulted. It has all the grindiness of an MMO, with some OK story-telling. I'm trying to like it, but....I don't really like the carrot-on-a-stick way of playing. I keep finding myself just wanting to get to the next level. Why? To get to the level after. Why? To get to fifty. Why? To get the best gear. Then what? Wait for the next expansion or level an alt. Oh, but you can enjoy the AMAZING STORY TELLING. (spoilers) Yeah, I figured out by the time I was 25 on my SW that Baras would betray me and I would have to kill him. I don't know. I just miss my old house and my Chuba. /rant

What? "Oh thanks Joe, I'm glad you gave me some credits to help me level!" "You're being banned for receiving exploited credits" Yes, some people give away credits legally earned. I am bored with the class story, so I do space dailies. Aside from purchasing the space upgrades when needed, I do gift things to my guild. How dare I. Note: The top level space dailies/missions can rake you in roughly 100k/hr, so yes. Some people CAN have over five or ten million credits legally.

Or they sold something to an player who exploited? No, no, no. You do not ban someone simply because they have a certain amount of money.

How do you know that? Pretty sure the "free" was included with the game, and could have been a rationalization to some as paying $45 and the first month.

Ah, but see, he payed sixty at the least to begin with.

Ok, hold up. I'm not completely arguing with you, but implying that Starcraft isn't as world famous as ANY bioware game? Pshaw. And Warcraft, not WoW, is also a pretty good game. And EA didn't develop the Battlefield series, nor the C&C series, they published them. I love Bioware. They make great games, (DA2 didn't happen), but some things in this game have not been done right. Not saying it's not a great game, but not everyone that complains is a fan of WoW either. Also, just because something is popular, doesn't mean it's great. Justin Bieber is popular.

qft /5

Pretty sure the Sun Crusher wasn't destroyed by a ''Rebel Offensive", but by Kyp Durron who redeemed himself by charting it into a black hole in the Maw, which is where all of these super weapons were designed, by isolated scientists who were extremely intelligent.

I'd say Abeloth would be the strongest so far, based on the books that are out so far, with Luke not so far behind. That may change as the final two come out though.