So.. I'm a 50 Sith sorce, in Full BM... I am Finding it... Pointless to play this class..Now after 1.2. Very little damage, and Squishy. If I did a ton of damage, would be fine, or was really hard to kill, would be fine. So.... This being the case I find myself wanting to roll another class, so which class (On the Sith side) is best for PvP after 1.2?

I would say they are standing around because: A. After the first time they realize it's Pointless to try OR B. The team Standing around is the team with the hacker, and the entire team knows hes hacking so is like ' Who cares well win" and their just standing waiting for it.

A loosing team can do a lot once a player figures out they do not have to kill anyone to get a medal. All classes have abilities which assist, stun or help other players out in some manner and there are a lot more types of medals since 1.2. and they are much easier to get.

I solo kill people in better gear then me all the time, its about skill and strategy and how well you know your class and it's abilities.

There are more types of medals then kill or defense, ALL classes have off abilities, use them, or learn to, Slow opponents, Assist team member with shields, heals, buffs, group together work as a team assist each other and even if you get 0 kills and 0 defense medals, your still going to get rewards. It is how you play, that determines your rewards, play as a team toward the Objective and you'll get them, Don't and you wont. If I can get 55 coms, in a 2 v6 (with me being the 1 and some random being the 2) There is no excuse for anyone not to get rewards. In hutball use the environment the only person you really have to worry about is the ball carrier, stun him over some flames, slow him, bounce him into the poison water, whatever. you get several medals for doing things like that with a single kill. And guess what? you can do THAT solo.

How many kills you get doesn't mean **** anymore. That's why you get garbage rewards your more focused on death match, then Team Objectives. Play as a team, or don't PvP, because that's your only Options, as your Kills and damage mean nothing anymore.

Let me guess, you (or your team mates) were running around trying to see how many people you could kill right? Not working as a team, not trying to actually complete the objective or defend it? Remember that this game is not all about L50. the Vast majority of players are Below L50. If you are having issues with L50 PvP gear wise, Buy recruit gear. until you can afford the BM gear (It's not hard to get). There are lots of under geared L50s posting on here that they love it and it's great. Maybe the problem is simply.. YOU, or how YOU play. Maybe.. PvP just isn't for you. Who knows, but in any case You can fix it.

It is all you, because even if you have suck *** teammates if YOU are doing what the Objective requires and playing "as" a team member, YOU will get good rewards. If not, you wont. Its that simple

Exactly

Been trying to get people to understand that all day.

I came on here read the forums and complaints and then went and played straight for about 18 - 24 hours. Doing nothing but pvp battles, I posted a thread on the results entitled: The "Real Deal". The mechanics are simple. If you use team oriented actions you will get mre rewards, IE staying together, healing someone else useing your off abilities to assist another player, defending an objective etc. If you on the other hand go around just Killing people (As I did on several games) you get jack **** for rewards no matter how many kills damage medals you get. Seriously, play as a team focus on the objectives and assist your teammates and you get very nice rewards. Several 50's posted on there saying that at level 50 the mechanics are exactly the same as they were for my level 46 Character.

Nope. Honestly most of the games I've played when I lost my team had at least -2 players. Jung Ma is a high pop server lots of people on both sides. Its simply about team work if you play as a team member, you will gain rewards, if you play death match or for yourself, you wont. (Yes, i tried it,and that's exactly what it is I spent several games just killing people and ignoring the team and I got jack **** for rewards).

Nope, I play a Sith Sorcerer, and my DPS is about 350 - 750 and my crits are around 1300 Like Is aid if I can do it, there is no excuse, and I que SOLO, I do not run Premades as I think it's akin to cheating. And not any fun since your going to face a Pug of randoms.

I am under geared, I'm wearing level 42 pvp gear. I AM NOT that skilled at pvp, and I am a CASUAL player. If I can do it, there is no excuse for anyone. Look me up My char name is Malpherian, and my server is Sith Jung-Ma

Apparently you can't read, so let me put this in caps: You like so many others don't seem to realize how many people you kill means jack **** where rewards are concerned. I play many battles and loose many, and I always get around 55 + coms and 14k - 24k xp, and 5k - 15k credits. EVEN when loosing, so obviously its YOU not the game.

You don't have to learn to play to get coms and armor and gear, you simply have to "participate" in an "Objective" based manner. If you run around trying to death match your rewards are going to suck, if you run around and play as a team your rewards are fantastic. I get 59-65 coms on a LOSS game. So the game is not broken neither is the system. People just need to learn to have a team mentality instead of a ME ME ME ME ME mentality. PvP is about completing objectives as a team, while playing against other players much like Football and Soccer. Do you really think the NFL would change the rules of the Game simply because players decided they wanted to beat each other up more then trying to score? I don't. So why should Bioware?

Yu like so many others dont seem to realize how many people you kill means jack **** where rewards are concerned. I play many battles and loose many, and I always get around 55 + coms and 14k - 24k xp, and 5k - 15k credits. EVEN when loosing, so obviously its YOU not the game.

The problem is not you, it's your team. A good team will support you, If you do the best you can it is all you can do. Do not be upset because you solo qued and got sloted with some randoms that do not understand what working as a team is. If you did your best, you did you best, and that's all there is to it really, every one get's better as they play, the more they play, and a good guild can compensate for your handicap (whatever it happens to be) who will find your strengths and use them to better the whole team. Your problem is not you, your problem is you've been stuck with some ****** teams, or Guilds.

I'll take a screenshot of the rewards for loosing at the end of the next PvP match when the servers come up and Post it so everyone can see it. (I dont have fraps.. need to get it at some point though...on my list of things to do)

I am in a Guild of 1.. Me. I solo que and Never run in a pre-made. Just so you know my posts come from some random guy with a casual life and play style who pvps and solo ques for "fun".

No I am simply claiming that it is not BIOWARES or the GAMES, fault that your server is not populated. It is in fact No ones fault. People will either choose to play or not. Move servers as I said before and you wont have that issue as much. Hell come to Jung-Ma, this thing is packed. I never run into an issue with there not being enough people for PvP.

You dont seem to get that it is not about "YOU" and what YOU did. It's about what YOU did FOR your TEAM, pursuant to the OBJECTIVE. You can get 20 medals and top the kill board in all stats and areas, but if you did it without bothering to focus on helping your team complete the objective, the game isn't going to reward you much. (And yes I realize many players do not understand the simplistic differences in your actions for such to occur, this is ok). I loose many battles and always come out with 5-12 medals, and about 59 - 65 Coms. If you are getting less then that it's not the game, it's simply "YOU".

I believe my previous post covered the (NOT ENOUGH TEAM PLAYERS). The game does not control how many people que for your sever, or whether or not a player leaves your game. This is the choice of the "PLAYER". These are things Bioware has absolutely NO control over. Therefore my post is accurate.

These are good points, but are easily solvable with the "Social" aspect: 1. * Join a guild where PvP team leaders are varied, and Skill is balanced on teams, so as to train new pvpers on how to play and win. * Voice Coms. * Community strategy. All of those issues are completely resolvable without Bioware changing anything. The problem is players are lazy, want the easy way, this is messed up, fix it for me because I don't want to take the time to convo someone to help teach me about strategy, or how to better play the thing. 2. If the individuals focusing on only trying to get their individual 3 medals, these are the ones causing you to loose to begin with, I feel sorry that you were placed in a group with such individuals, but it happens. (See number 1). 3. Even if you start with a small team, you can still gain rewards if you put forth the effort, (I actually ended up being 1 v 4 yesterday and I still managed 40 Coms), so I know for a fact you can do it. 4. Eventually those without the team mentality will leave and those with the team mentality will stay, PvP will become fun and enjoyable, rather then a spam rush for coms. I support this patch.

Actually my premise is not incorrect, the unavailability of players does not have an effect on my post as it is an outside source, rather then a function of the game itself. In addition, if you have a small team due to people leaving, then again my post is still correct as it is the choice of the player to leave and thus not be a team player which causes you to loose. So my post is entirely accurate. Logic, is not something you want to debate with me. My suggestion to you is to find a guild with lots of pvpers in it, or a larger more populated server. Either will solve the issues you listed.