If they insist on having a deserter lockout in regs it should be no more than 5 minutes, and it should be for the character, not the account. I definitely understand the need for a 15 minute lockout etc for ranked, but it's ridiculous that they applied it to regs as well.

A classic server set right before they raised the level cap would be amazing. BUMP!

The win only thing isn't my issue with the changes. I'm more annoyed with a 15 minute lockout for leaving early than having to try for wins over number farming. At least with four good players you have a shot at a W. The deserter lockout should be 5 minutes. SF has been spotty for me on the west coast lately and being locked out due to a Disconnect really blows.

I'd honestly rather have a classic level 50, or 55 server over adding another server for your stated reasons.

The toxicity has been there since launch 2011 so that's really not a good argument at all. Stop queuing solo, get some friends. Maybe that's a problem for you in real life, but on an mmo you might be able to get someone to like you and group up.

They implemented the win requirement because 8v8 regs was 90% number farming matches. At least with the win requirement more people will try to get those W's instead of thinking they can do big d*ck dps/hps. Now the lockout timer of 15 minutes for leaving a warzone early is ridiculous. It should be 5 minutes max if they insist on having it.

They added a win requirement because the number farming got so out of hand there was literally no objective play going on it 80% of the matches. I don't mind the win requirements because it reminds me of the old 8v8 days when people actually tried to win while getting high numbers. The only change that truly sucks is the deserter lockout timer.

Than***k youuuuu.

*Laughs in Powertech* PT is a glass cannon with no dcd's and a so called heal that literally has fancy green numbers that do nothing, lol. Anyways, honestly BW's nerfs have always been so bad we're probably better off tweaking the sub par classes than screwing classes with nerfs.

Huttball needs it's own queue. I'm sure enough would queue for two full teams.

Deception sin and Concealment are getting nerfed soon.

You mean the recycled rewards that we're getting now in ranked? All of the weapons, etc are rewards I obtained the first time around when ranked had a population and was competitive and relevant.

None of those numbers are big protect numbers, and anyone who does off guard on Solo ranked on live gets crapped on once people realize they are off guarding. DPS has been able to off guard for ages now and it's never been a huge issue for those who know what to do about it. I've had over 100k+ easy with taunts alone .

What did they buff besides the powerlode tactical for back to back Energy bursts? Energy burst has always hit a crit after 4 stacks were built. When I last played AP in December it was crap, so I need to be brought up to speed on what changed. EDIT: From looking at the 6.1 notes basically nerfing the tactical would fix the issue. The other tweaks are definitely not big enough to make a huge difference: "Advanced Prototype The Energy and Kinetic damage buff from High Energy Gas Cylinder increased to 5% (up from 3%). Power Bracer damage buff increased to 10% (up from 5%). Blood Tracker damage buff increased to 5% (up from 3%). Advanced Prototype Tacticals The Powerlode tactical now increases Energy Burst’s critical chance by 100%."

It's not like they couldn't make a separate solo ranked 8v8 queue or something. Would people queue for that though? IDK, but having to win for rating is involved so there would definitely be more Objs and strats involved like the old 8v8 days.

I stopped caring for Obj's in 8v8's after 8v8 ranked died. If we got some sort of Solo Ranked 8v8 option I'm sure people would care somewhat about Obj's again.

People have been asking since the 1.0s It's never going go happen, get over it and suck it up queuing solo. I do it all the time and I don't whine and complain like some other people. 🤷*♂️🤷*♂️

Yeah I meant lethal not veiled, my bad. Idk 8k isnt much these days when you compare it to even what single target AP can pull on average, especially considering leth is dot spread. I'm definitely game for off target lethal spread nerf, but I think it would underperform if it lost it. We 100% need balance, after getting crapped on by double cloak decep in dps games I definitely agree, lol. I just don't want to see classes dumped into the gutter again like many times before.

So then just make veiled strikes aoe spread hit less than it's main target? I'm pretty sure this has been done before to stop an aoe problem. Also, who besides 3 or 4 people are actually running leth? Lol, you're basically making that tactical useless removing it all together. Run leth without the tactical for a bit and get back to me on how it holds up Prum.👍

Instead of asking for nerfs, which will break all of the said classes and basically make it 5.0s again; We should be asking to buff everything that is lacking to get on par instead. All of the nerfs you're asking for is basically just rolling it back to how it was before.

Dude whenever people cry nerfs, and they do it, it breaks classes and makes one or two OP again. They need to stop nerfing and just buff every spec that is behind right now. Its BW, they've ALWAYS screwed a class when nerfing.

Yeah sadly that is the case nowadays. Though instead of asking for a nerf, we should be asking to bring everything else that's lacking up to par. We always ask for nerfs when something is over tuned, but then BW manages to totally mess something up when trying to balance with nerfs.

Lol no, I'm good off the sniper/mara hard swap 5.0's garbage. Tune down concealment and deception and everything will be better for the most part. Carnage, madness, and a few others might need a boost but everything else can be played in 4's now without being rolled by a single overpowered comp.

You might have to grind Master FP's for a bit to get gear, but it's still 100000000000x easier to get gear now than it was with Ossus. I'm already on my third gear set in a week of being back. The diversity with tacticals and gear sets make it interesting. Like what were we doing in 5.0s really? Yolos, that's about all that popped, or reg's which are number farming for most people. Group ranked became non existent after the weeklies we're changed because their was no incentive to queue. The gear sets are only a mil a pop, you can make more than that grinding planet dailies. If you're that poor credit wise, just use the free gear you're getting until you can do better. Crafting does blow, and this is coming from someone who was making 300 mil a week crafting and selling Masterwork weapons. reg's and ranked definitely need better rewards though.

Players were easy to kill back in the day because we had pvp gear on in open world and most didn't. Someone decent at their class in pvp gear could easily 1v3 pve geared players. I kind of miss it though, lol.