Seems they'll all go the offline way too, 2 already have.

Must be your fault then I guess

According to the error code the servers are about to go into maintenance mode. So anything goes I guess...

Nope, definitely screwed, can't be connected to at all as of 1 minute ago. Actually scratch that, it seems I can't connect to any server.

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LOL nice try...

The subscribers are

All of you - Korriban, you evil lot.

The one with the robot who tries to arrest you, name?

re-usable jawagrams?

Perhaps they have end-game characters in which case their opinions bear more weight. Even if they're wrong

ANYTHING can be done with enough time, part of the P2W philosophy is that you skip enormous amounts of time and grind to get there a lot quicker. If someone's so far beyond needing credits it's easy to lose sight of the restrictions of having very little (relatively speaking) all over again. P.S. I have no interest in PVP in any way and the dedicated gear has very little influence on the PVE content which is the major part of the game.

You can't possibly understand my point if you've not passed lvl 27 yet.

This one I will respond to as it's well-considered. However 1 tier below the best still has a big drag on all the tiers below and the cartel items that can be bought for cash and sold for in-game currency (be that credits or gold-quality tradables like mass manips or others that hold their value well) therefore have a significant effect on the difficulty of the game. Simply adding more difficulty settings doesn't help either as those without the "pay" resources others have don't have the chance to buy the gear needed for the higher levels meaning less cash denies some of the population content easily accessible to those with cash. So it might not be the simplistic P2W mentioned above but it's certainly an extended version of it.

Yep exactly, however I'm thinking beyond this. Anyway I realised I cba with the point as it'll be opposed by those with the credits and they would claim to have none anyway.

Then explain it. I know what P2W means in the mmo's I've played. Tell me yours.

What an awful waste of a great game and some great content. The billions of credits floating around needs sorting out. The fact that there's so many things that can be bought for RL cash and then sold to easily build up enormous piles of credits which are then turned into game-difficulty defining gear is ridiculous. At the least packs and market items bought should have the binding time removed and be permanently bound to legacy to allow moving items to an appropriate toon of the buyer's. Things like helping f2p items should still be tradable but the rest allows pay2win to an insane degree. I understand the company philosophy and "The game needs to be profitable" but seriously, how many mmo's have a significant life-span with this type of economy?

A lot of this is true, although DDO's combat system is better too, there's clicking but also a lot more movement and positioning. I'd also prefer not to have so many "kill # of this" especially the escalating levels of kills, 15 then 25 etc etc. Just make it one stage of kill 40 then move on to something different rather than blackmailing us into putting some time into lvl 1 then making us groan at lvl 2.

I'd say W*W isn't worth a mention, never seen such an awful looking game and if I don't stay around long enough to see enough gameplay to change my mind it's not worth my time. TOR is very similar to Conan combat-wise but the cross-over with all the similar classes (BH/trooper etc etc) whilst meant to even out pvp seems to ring of laziness to me. However as with Conan it is a fun system and I've stayed around a lot longer than with W*W. TOR's looks are more than good enough and some of the scenery and equipment look great. As far as gameplay's concerned it's slightly short of DDO and the character customisation on DDO is beyond anything TOR will ever manage but that's the nature of this type of mmo. However TOR isn't too far behind and I can see myself subbing to TOR for a long time to come.

On the off-chance it helps or makes a difference I obtained, gathered all of the GSI explorer parts 2 days ago and handed them in with no problem and am the proud owner of the speeder with no problems so it isn't everyone, perhaps something to do with the player in question.

Bunch of posts vanished there, how.....odd. We're nearly 10 minutes past the last EU active server time, anything new? Woo-hoo! They're up.

That one that's included in the "all servers and forums are down" page? Yeah, that's not exactly readable when it's down for maintenance.