I can't see how you think this is true. Only people I see defending the films are anonymous accounts,

Exactly. And if as some apologist claims, that its part of a side book that he was there as a disciplinary action for poor performance than WHY would he be attached to Kylo Ren at all?

I'm sorry but sourcing a side story not in the movie is bad film making. he says un jokingly that he did sanitation.

Show me the overall positive reception to the film on a site that is not full of anonymous users.

R2D2's role had purpose for carrying the plans for the majority of movie. We had no idea Finn had this secret knowledge until the very briefing leading tot he attack as if the line was made up and they ran with it.

You mention Finn being the key to the starkiller base destruction like its a good thing and not the MacGuffin that it is.

You're the troll that defends a crap movie. Despite a mounting movement of content being created against it.

What is a jung archetype, what is the Hero's journey? What makes a character arc? None of these characters follow one. Rey is given super natural force ability and is and has been a Mary Sue. She then beats Kylo Ren multiple times for what kind of progressive arc in upcoming films? Finn was a janitor turned side quest fetcher with plot lines no one cares about or think should be in the films. BB 8 is product placement.

You claimed there were positive reviews to offset the critical reviews. You dug yourself into this hole. Also look at comments on Angry Joes follow up. You think that is a bubble? More people there than here. You are projecting.

Its not a personal opinion. They are flat characters with flat arcs.

Show proof, kid. This was just at the start of the dot com era.

I enjoy bad films too.

You literally didnt watch Angry Joes follow up. Still had lots of issues with the film in that too. I'm glad you linked it so people will watch it and see that you are full of it.

Did you watch the videos? Negatives in that first video you posted. -Pacing issues -Kanto Bite sequence should not be in the film -Finn subplot was bad -Animal Cruelty lines out of place ETC Honestly did you just search for reviews you thought were glowing positive and paste them here? Kevin Smith literally just rambles off the plot of the movie for an hour and half. What part did you see as a positive review?

Flat characters are forgotten characters and thats what Rey, Finn, and BB-8 are. FLAT.

It literally says his real name in the title of his review, which is an hour and half long ramble. What part of the review did you agree with?

AngryJoe 2.9 Million Subs with this video at 1.7 Million views. Awesome Channel 1 million views poking at the plot holes with over 700k views With much much more! Come on show me these glowing reviews you claim exist and if they are by any big youtubers.

AngryJoe 2.9 Million Subs with this video at 1.7 Million views. Awesome Channel 1 million views poking at the plot holes with over 700k views Come on show me these glowing reviews you claim exist and if they are by any big youtubers.

The characters are not the same. Han Solo's entire plot progression over three films was that from selfish smuggler on the run to rebel hero and toppler of the empire who lead an assault on the death stars shield generator. This was completely reversed. The First order comes out of no where and in one film, despite having their much bigger death star destroyed now rule the galaxy? The Republic should not have been the underdogs from the start of the film. Han Solo reverted back to a selfish smuggler who abandoned his family and only after feeling guilt tries to stop his whiny son who ultimately cuts him down to prove how evil he is. With this story arc I can't see how anyone would care about a young han solo movie. Luke goes from one of the most hopeful characters in star wars, literally the NEW HOPE himself, does everything to turn his genocidal father to the light side and succeeds. Yet we are to believe Luke would attempt to kill Kylo Ren for turning to the dark side and becoming hopeless when he fails to stop him? It makes zero sense for his character we saw over 3 films in the OT. Honestly, can you say you are not being paid to defend the new films on the forum? Because I find it hard to believe you are a real person.

There is no balancing of the films to correct the last. People said the exact same thing with TFA, that it was a set up film, all of those people were wrong, they did not get the pay offs for the majority of the plot points set up in it. JJ Abram added mystery boxes that were empty into his film with no cohesive vision for where the movie would go in the next film. It was ad lib story telling and guess what? The next guy ignored most of it. Star Wars will see diminishing returns as they milk the brand. Its the brand selling the merchandise and the brand that owns the cultural phenomenon, this movies detract from that, not add to it

DC owns Batman, and these use time travel and other devices all the time to change storylines, but that does not change the mythos of the characters considered by fans to be iconic. Disney cannot by ownership steer fans to accept their bad writing because they piggy back off a brand they bought. It does not change the iconic nature of the original story and the intent of its creator. They are systematically destroying the plot development of the original trilogy by reversing the character progression of classic characters and you think people will accept that? Not a chance.

Categorically wrong. You look at non - annonymous reviews on youtube and the hate is very real from even fans that liked TFA. You are one of these kids that think Gross Revenue is the sign people like the movies. Its the Star Wars BRAND selling those tickets, not the scripts.

Another guy thinking Gross is a measure of success. When its the brand selling tickets and not the plot. Put the plot iand script n any other sci fi brand and it would fail. Star Wars brand sold those tickets. Not the movies. reddit is a shill infested hell hole far divorced from the vision of its true founder.

honestly general chat for SWTOR seems to lean to either conservative or non-participants as far as politics go. AND THATS THE CRAZY THING. Why are they shoving a partisan star wars movie subplot down people's throats at all? It should have been something everyone can enjoy. But hey let some dog horses go free makes it all worth it.

Showing 3 cosplays is a symbol of the health of the brand? Lunacy. Look at the youtube videos , with how many more viewers star wars rants have now than pro star wars critics. Millions of people tuning in to listen to these videos and comment in agreement by the hundreds of thousands.