For PVP -Currently, IMO, running a hybrid in Ranked grouped 4s is best. I run 23/23/0 and here is a link to my build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500hrRbddMRZfMRorMcob.3 NOTE: This is for being a Tank. Your DPS will be complete and utter ****, as it puts out less damage as full tank. If you expect to do loads of damage as a guardian hybrid tank, uninstall and quit the game now. If you do any type of decent damage, your survivability is probably terrible. Also, you run this hybrid in FULL tank gear. Don't run any DPS gear because, as I said earlier, you damage is already ****. However, in this build, your CDs are faster and stronger, better peels for teammates, and a better overall build if you are getting tank tunneled. Why this build is the bee's knees: If you are being tunneled: Stance dance baby! If you are being solely tunneled, you can flop to shein form and leap at the same time, since they are on two separate GCDs. After leaping, swap back to soresu form. This grants an addition DR of 20% and you cant be interrupted, so no need to worry about getting back to soresu form. This will put you around 65% DR. Pair this with enure, you have 85% DR (Yes, insanely tanky). and guess what, if you are getting attacked in soresu, you leap comes back even faster! You can leap just about every 5 seconds and you can use enure every minute. You still have all your other full tank CDs. Warding call and Saber ward have an increased CD of 30 seconds, but the enure trade off is way better and you are super strong! Strong for peeling dps and chain CCing: You have in this build: 2 - 4 second stuns for hard switching targets or peeling dps 1 - spamable AOE slow by 50% 1 - Root on master strike to peel a bursty melee DPS (Such as a carnage marauder or combat sentinel) 1 - 45 second force push. 1 - 45 second Awe for target switches and pressure relief. This build has all the cool downs of a Full tank, except they are shorter and stronger, and you peels on dps for teammates are stronger. Gearing: As I said, run in Full Tank gear. You can either get the high endurance pieces and stack sheild/absorb or get 15% defense and put the rest in shield/absorb. Set Bonuses: Get the 2 piece vigilance DPS set bonus, as intercede/guardian leap will heal you for 8% on use. Then get the 2 piece tank set bonus for the extra second on your force statis/choke. How to guardian/juggernaut PVP tank: 1 - guard an ally. If you don't, uninstall. 2 - Rotate said guard to the target who is being focused. If you don't you , uninstall. 3 - Taunt on CD. Don't AOE and single taunt at the same time as they do not stack. Or, if you are a smart cookie, taunt DPS targets while they use their burst rotation. Don't taunt healers or tanks. If you do not do any of these, uninstall. 4 - Intercede/Guardian Leap on CD to the focused target. If you don't, uninstall. 5 - Use your Awe to stop DPS and switch target. Don't awes targets who are DOTed. 6 - Use your hilt strike/force stasis to chain cc DPS that is being focused. If they use their CC break, stun em again! Or use them to peel for an ally. 7 - SPAM you AOE slow. SPAM IT! 8 - use your Master Strike to root a melee dps to mess up their rotation. 9 - Time your CDs. Don't burn all your cooldowns at once. Burn one individually and pop other accordingly. 10 - Use you push to separate a melee DPS or get a tank out of guard range while bursting a target. I think that is it. Adjust according to what works best for you, but this is it in a nutshell! Hope this helps and don't hesitate to respond to this if you have any questions. -AtulStryker

If I ever had to a read a post on how to NOT guardian tank, this would be it. For PVE -Don't run a hybrid, you want to run full tank to have max threat. You will have crap threat as a hybrid. My build for Nightmare 8 mans: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500hMRrddrRrzGzZcMRZb.3. Rotation is easy and straight forward. How to PVE Tank: -Guard your strongest DPS and keep Aggro/Max threat on the boss. - Time your cooldowns accordingly. - Know raid mechanics accordingly. For PVP -Currently, IMO, running a hybrid in Ranked grouped 4s is best. I run 23/23/0 and here is a link to my build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500hrRbddMRZfMRorMcob.3 NOTE: This is for being a Tank. Your DPS will be complete and utter ****, as it puts out less damage as full tank. If you expect to do loads of damage as a guardian hybrid tank, uninstall and quit the game now. If you do any type of decent damage, your survivability is probably terrible. Also, you run this hybrid in FULL tank gear. Don't run any DPS gear because, as I said earlier, you damage is already ****. However, in this build, your CDs are faster and stronger, better peels for teammates, and a better overall build if you are getting tank tunneled. Why this build is the bee's knees: If you are being tunneled: Stance dance baby! If you are being solely tunneled, you can flop to shein form and leap at the same time, since they are on two separate GCDs. After leaping, swap back to soresu form. This grants an addition DR of 20% and you cant be interrupted, so no need to worry about getting back to soresu form. This will put you around 65% DR. Pair this with enure, you have 85% DR (Yes, insanely tanky). and guess what, if you are getting attacked in soresu, you leap comes back even faster! You can leap just about every 5 seconds and you can use enure every minute. You still have all your other full tank CDs. Warding call and Saber ward have an increased CD of 30 seconds, but the enure trade off is way better and you are super strong! Strong for peeling dps and chain CCing: You have in this build: 2 - 4 second stuns for hard switching targets or peeling dps 1 - spamable AOE slow by 50% 1 - Root on master strike to peel a bursty melee DPS (Such as a carnage marauder or combat sentinel) 1 - 45 second force push. 1 - 45 second Awe for target switches and pressure relief. This build has all the cool downs of a Full tank, except they are shorter and stronger, and you peels on dps for teammates are stronger. Gearing: As I said, run in Full Tank gear. You can either get the high endurance pieces and stack sheild/absorb or get 15% defense and put the rest in shield/absorb. Set Bonuses: Get the 2 piece vigilance DPS set bonus, as intercede/guardian leap will heal you for 8% on use. Then get the 2 piece tank set bonus for the extra second on your force statis/choke. How to guardian/juggernaut PVP tank: 1 - guard an ally. If you don't, uninstall. 2 - Rotate said guard to the target who is being focused. If you don't you , uninstall. 3 - Taunt on CD. Don't AOE and single taunt at the same time as they do not stack. Or, if you are a smart cookie, taunt DPS targets while they use their burst rotation. Don't taunt healers or tanks. If you do not do any of these, uninstall. 4 - Intercede/Guardian Leap on CD to the focused target. If you don't, uninstall. 5 - Use your Awe to stop DPS and switch target. Don't awes targets who are DOTed. 6 - Use your hilt strike/force stasis to chain cc DPS that is being focused. If they use their CC break, stun em again! Or use them to peel for an ally. 7 - SPAM you AOE slow. SPAM IT! 8 - use your Master Strike to root a melee dps to mess up their rotation. 9 - Time your CDs. Don't burn all your cooldowns at once. Burn one individually and pop other accordingly. 10 - Use you push to separate a melee DPS or get a tank out of guard range while bursting a target. I think that is it. Adjust according to what works best for you, but this is it in a nutshell! Hope this helps and don't hesitate to respond to this if you have any questions. -AtulStryker

All I want is for competitive group ranked to pop and to give incentive for people to queue and stick around in the pvp community? Is this really so much to ask? I sit in grouped ranked queue so long without a pop I DC for being AFK. That is NOT ok. And Someone said prove half the community is unhappy? I'm sure current pop is mostly happy because the people who were unhappy left the game! The "good" pvp community has left to play other games and the competition has died. How are you going to compete with games like Wildstar who have cross server queues were WZs pop every 2 minutes and offers 2s,3s,5s,BGs,40 v 40, and (I think this term is foreign to Bioware) World PvP? Have you even talked about a strat to maintain population? And when I say population, I mean the useful, harcore players (PVE or PVP) population. Not little Johnny who sits there and queues for FPs and 8s with his **** in his hand and screams " GEE GOLLY GOSH THESE ARE FUN!" You say the game is successful because they make a lot of money and that the game isn't dying. That is like saying Kim Kardashian is successful because she is rich -_-. Well... it sure hell isn't growing. It makes money off of subs who are hanging on to a hopeless nothing and the Cartel Market. If people are coming to the game, they don't stick around for end game content. It's not serious players. It is people like little Johnny again. You mistake quantity for quality/ And you say us players are impatient about 3.0. I speak for myself when I say "You are **** right I am." Let me ask you this. Would you invest in a company that has not announced the future of its product for months and when you ask you get a "oh it will be something good, don't worry!"? Probably not. Investors would get shaky and bail out of investments and the company would tank in stocks. Same deal here. Tell us what is going on or I will be gone or return at a later date when your **** is together. I guess what frustrates me the most is the Bioware/EA target audience for this game. They target people like little Johnny and people who want to drown money in the cartel market. Who cares about the hardcore players? If Bioware is making $139 million quarterly, then why isn't content being pushed out at a reasonable rate? Instead of putting money back in the game, you do the minimum to keep people happy and take the rest as profit. For that, you should feel ashamed. Hopefully Bioware and EA choose to steer TOR in the right direction before Tortanic hits a giant iceberg and sinks the party for all of us.

Seriously, what server has the most grouped ranked pops/competitive grouped ranked. We want to transfer a team off of Jung Ma and not sure where to go. Thoughts?

When we aren't queuing and you need a tank, let me know. I don't mind!

BUMP/UPDATED Would like to hear from some other guilds that do heavy PVP, such as: <Sithhiker's Guide to the Galaxy> <The Imperial Guard> <Reign> <Night's Radiance> <Clan Epsis> <Clan Lulk> <Prenumbral> <Coordinating Confusion> <Knights of Sokan> <REGULATORS> <Guildless> <The Guardians> <System's Commonwealth> <Wrong Side of Heaven> <Warzone Junkies> ANY TEAM ON THIS SERVER THAT IS INTERESTED IN DOING RANKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really what Rivik said. If you do wind up transferring here, we can definitely field a team if/when you guys are interested in queuing ranked. Just contact any member in shots fired/vicious and we will make it happen. Best of luck!

Hey all, Me and a few guildies have noticed a large decline in the amount of groups/people that queue for ranked on this server. For the first few weeks of 2.4, solo queues and grouped queues for ranked pop very quickly. Now, hardly anyone queues. Of course, no one wants to sit in queue for 5 hours. Because of this, most groups just wait until another team wants to queue. However, most groups want to queue at odd times or times that do not fit one another. To actually get ranked popping again, I have created this post for one sole purpose: Post a schedule of when your guild will be able to queue and I will post/update it on this thread. If you are willing to put a team together and do not wish to post a specific time, please right below a point of contact from you guild to have some point of communication. I will start. <Shots Fired> / <Vicious> Times able to Queue: Fridays after 9pm EST Saturdays after 9pm EST ANYTIME AFTER 9PM EST PLEASE CONTACT US! ------------------------------------------------ Description: We can queue almost anytime! If you are interested in running ranked and see one of our members online, please contact them and ask them to forward the message to myself, Rivik, Eztion, or Skyrodd. <Sky Wardens> Times able to Queue: ANYTIME AFTER 7PM EST PLEASE CONTACT US! Description: For point of contact for queueing ranked, please talk to Kordeed or Kördeed. ------------------------------------------------ <SUPER DARK SIDE GUILD>/<Force Kin> Times able to Queue: CONTACT US! We are short a healer most times but will put a team together whenever we can I don't have a specific schedule yet because our main healer is going to be getting some schedule changes with his work soon so I will post again when I find out more, but currently we will try to put together a team when ever we can. Just whisper Taelord / Warr'machine in game on imp side or look up my republic toons in Credit Shot (typically Cèll or Jeicee, the alt code on that is 138). That is the easiest way to contact me for ranked. Sorry I dont have a solid schedule to give everyone yet, but when / if I do I'll post one up here. Until then we will try to throw together a team as soon as we can if anyone wants to queue. ------------------------------------------------ <Valorous Knights> Times able to Queue: We mostly queue after 6 p.m. EST on weekdays. Nearly any time is possible on weekends. We are a semi-casual guild. I have been trying to get a bunch of people from our guild to queue for Ranked with me, but there's always a problem. Some days we lack a healer, other days a tank. It would be helpful if someone also told me when Ranked is most likely to pop. This morning we spent an hour in queue. No pop. My guildies find it annoying to wait for so long so it's hard to get them to queue for ranked again. If any solo players are looking to make a group for Ranked, contact me in game on Aetios. ------------------------------------------------ <The Imperial Guard> Times able to Queue: TALK TO D3! I will be putting teams together as soon as this semester is over (friday).. ------------------------------------------------ <Zodiac> Times able to Queue: Please Contact Varag, Jek'rudo, Tallån, Jel'ah, Veed, Moltar, or any Zodiac member Zodiac would like to get involved in Ranked. Many players are on later at night. You can also catch me during the day. You can message me on Varag or Jek'rudo and I can see if we have a team ready to go. You can also message Tallån (a is alt-0229). You can also ask Jel'ah, Veed, Moltar, and anyone else in Zodiac to make a guild announcement to see if anyone is interested. See you on the battlefield! ------------------------------------------------ Please post the times your guilds/teams can queue and who to contact for ranked. Thanks!

I don't have as much of a problem with the AP DPS (even though it is still ridiculously strong) as much as I do the Hybrid. They just need to put on the AP/Tactics "Requires High Energy Cell" on a large majority of the abilities. It is as easy as that.

Anyone else feel that this PT/Vanguard AP (or as I call it, OP) Tactics hybrid is the most broken PVP spec currently in the game? I see PT Hybrid Tanks doing more damage than DPS and still doing really good protection numbers. It seems to completely mess up the solo queue system ( 3 dps 1 healer VS. 3 dps 1 healer, but one of the DPSers can guard and still hold their own). Grouped ranked is a different story. I know they are squishy compared to most tanks and are beatable, but it requires a serious amount of coordination that is very hard to do in a solo arena. I'm not trying to QQ but seriously, How has this not been nerfed into the ground yet? Thoughts?

That was a fun match! You guys are a great pvp guild. Thanks for posting that for me Aetrus. I also got 858k protection per single life, but I dont think I have a screenshot:(.