Why? Because I want to better myself? Because I want to better the raid? I guess you keep people that love to be mediocre and to just do the minimum. Love trolls

I dont understand people in this thread that are against Dps Meters. It is accountability to make sure your players/ raid members are pulling their weight. If you are against it then there is only one possible reason why and that is simply put you do not want people to see how bad you are. There can not be another reason. The pros outwieght the cons by a long shot... There is not one person in a progression raiding guild that would ever support this. Only people that could not cut it... I know hardcore raiders only make up like 15-20 percent of the community while casuals are the other 80 percent but you have to understand those 20 percent drive the success of the game/economy. If you lost hardcore raiders and you will if these things dont change the game with suffer for it. It is that simple

Quite comical. If you are continually whiping on a boss fight and you notice your bottom dps is doing 30 percent less damage than your other dps and constantly taking damage from things he shouldnt be, you are supposed to say it is fine we will just continue to whipe just for fun. They should find people that are more like them and not try and join a progression endgame guild then... Nothing Narcissist about it. I play the game to have fun and fun for me is completing all the content. Whiping consistently and not being able to tell why and who is not doing their job isnt...

Anyone that says they do not want any type of dps meters in the game is either very bad or very confused. Dps/Heal meters - Seperate the bad players from the good. It shows you... who is active the most during a fight who is taking the most damage and from what who is healing the most the abilities people are using and how often etc... Looking at the results of a dps meter will show you many things about a player and whether they know what they are doing or not. So if you do not want this in the game then clearly you are not a endgame player or have any idea what endgame is about. If players are bad and dont understand their class well they shouldn't hold back a guild from clearing content and should be exposed. As far as everything else, you can live without most of it and just adapt. Good players will.

Anyone that says they do not want any type of dps meters in the game is either very bad or very confused. Dps/Heal meters - Seperate the bad players from the good. It shows you... who is active the most during a fight who is taking the most damage and from what who is healing the most the abilities people are using and how often etc... Looking at the results of a dps meter will show you many things about a player and whether they know what they are doing or not. So if you do not want this in the game then clearly you are not a endgame player or have any idea what endgame is about. If players are bad and dont understand their class well they shouldn't hold back a guild from clearing content and should be exposed. As far as everything else, you can live without most of it and just adapt. Good players will

I dont think it is too much to ask for an ETA for a fix on the broken pvp raid/ui frames. THis has been a problem since Beta and it makes healing annoying. People arent showing up in raid frames at all and health bars arent updating like they should. This is a serious bug that should have been fixed a long time ago.

I know that they have to do it in waves but it stupid that I ordered the game and had my code entered within an hour of them releasing the preorder details. My friend is in who entered his code 2 days later. I just hate when a company lies to its customer base is all.