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  1. Did CE users get something at launch? Yes Did DDE get something at launch? Yes Should we all get something? If your a subscriber, Yes; If your lapsed/new, Yes? So what's the real problem? All DDE are getting the same perks as everyone who subbed, same as CE users. CE are just getting additional perks since they are a recognised tier above SE.
  2. (My emphasis added to above) I have only seen a few people mention that the CE isn't just about the physical items. I don't remember the promises about monthly updates, but what I do remember and do see is that there is a separate part of the game for CE people. CE was built into the structure of the game, the same can't be said for DE therefore it shouldn't be a surprise that its not being catered to now. As the above poster mentioned, both CE and DE got their special in game items, however CE content through the VIP lounge was built into the game. Was anything built into the game for DE users? Not that I can tell, they only were given the same perks as CE users but didn't pay for CE edition. There was nothing in game that indicated DE would remain a constant strand throughout the life of the game whereas the VIP lounge represented some especially for CE users. For example, if I buy a standard airline ticket and get bumped up to business class, do I enjoy all the benefit of business class? Yes I do. I drink the wine, get the nice bed, etc. If my plane has a problem and we have to take a detour and I go up for payment for accomodation they are going to ask what kind of ticket I have. I have a standard ticket, therefore I don't get the same accomodation as business class flyers even though I enjoyed the perks for a while. CE was built as a difference in the game, DE never got a distinguishable different set of perks, they just got the same things the CE got. Move on down the line, BW is asking are you CE or not, if your not CE don't be surprised if you didn't get CE perks. While you did pay more the SE, you also received more then SE at launch. Therefore you go what you paid for. I paid for CE and CE was built as a different tier in the game, DE was not. Period.
  3. I think this can be explained better by BW, but I think there is an assumption that the three tiers (Standard, Deluxe, Collectors) would be into perpetuity. I just want to challenge that assumption and throw in the thought that maybe the three tiers were only for launch. Moving forward BW only really wanted 2 tiers and 2 groups of users. The two groups being those who are subbing and those who are not. As far as the tiers, I have never seen anything from Bioware that said that Deluxe Edition users would be separate from Standard edition users. It was obvious that there was going to be a difference between CE users and SE user through the VIP store. Maybe it has nothing to do with how much you paid, but instead whether you are CE or not. Unfortunately, Deluxe are not CE, therefore sharing the rewards, or lack thereof, as SE. The reason this make sense to me is because of how the rewards for transfers & some of the other rewards that have been based. Despite mumblings there was no bonus on transfers to CE, DE, or SE. None of them got any particular priority. Therefore the tiering most not be the biggest priority for BW. When game time was awarded, it was either given seperately to those who were subbed and those who had played then were coming back. Through most of the rewards, including the F2P reward, there is definitely a push to reward those who are subbed and then those who come back/newly sub. I think these are the 2 priority groups, so to those CE, DE, and SE users the real priority is just whether you are subbing or not. Since that is the real priority, every one of us is getting the main perks, therefore CE, DE, and SE perks are just a bonus. I have never seen anywhere that said the DE users would get perks throughout the life of the game. DE got the digital items when they purchased therefore they got what they paid for. As for CE users, it was built into the game that there was going to be a difference between CE and SE users. Therefore DE users were always going to be shunted in with SE users. There was nothing in-game that every differentiated DE users from SE users. DE users got CE perks, but weren't CE users. The writing was on the wall. While it may have never been made explicit, there was nothing that ever said there was going to be tiered rewards for different SE, DE, or CE users. However, from the start the game was BUILT with additional content for CE users. I think the biggest thing is for BW to come out clear about this, but I don't see an explanation that is going to be much different then this one. The DE bonus was a one-shot deal, where as CE bonuses were always going to be in perpetuity because an element of the game was going to be built around them. All BW has done is continue in the SAME EXACT reward model they have since they issued rewards since live. Separate rewards for current users and new/lapsed user, anything else is gravy. I think that SE and DE users need to understand that your edition counts for less to BW then your subscription.
  4. The whole thing I find strange about this thread is that only I mission is non-instanced (The AREA mission) so is this really a signifcant problem?
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