I bet you think the moon landing was faked, there are aliens at area 51 and 9/11 was an inside job, as well right?

I don't think you understand what obsession is. I think you just don't like me being critical of the game Mr. Fan boy.

...Really?

I understand that it's an analogy, my point was that it was a very poor one. Yep, sure is. When they aren't sequestered into linear paths the planets can look great. Certain planets are just completely terrible, Coruscant, Nar Shaadaa for example. They do not feel open. There is also another complete issue here I haven't mentioned, Instancing has ruined any world PvP, and makes the worlds feel stale. Sure is. I have no qualms with the story or voice acting, well except the ridiculous amount of reused lines. Mine was pretty good up until 35-ish, then it fell apart, my other Inquisitor friend felt the same, and my brother started to get bored of his Sith Warrior story around 30. Regardless, I won't fault the story, this is the ONE place that SWTOR has managed to be very innovative. Umm, by that logic, Episode 2 was a awesome high quality movie. True enough 1-50. What about after that? There's no immersion, it's just a daily grind fest like WoW. Umm I guess at first, after a while they just became an annoying pet to me. Also useless at 50, can't use them in PvP or PvE Yep, been over this. How are you rewarded? Last time I checked the Legacy system is not functional. I'm going to take a wild stab here that you haven't reached 50 yet?

Why do you think you're special? I was not talking to you specifically. Take your pretentiousness elsewhere, it's sickening.

Zork (1980) Bard's Tale (1985) Wizardry (1981) SWTOR (2011)

If you're willing to accept a low quality game then that is fine. But stop trying to claim that it is high quality because it just isn't, regardless of my opinion. My opinion: SWTOR is WoW in space with a VO story from 1-50. The end game is bad and they have tried to emulate WoW in everyway possible, including the terrible things from WoW. If you're okay with WoW in space and can look past the many, many other issues then you will enjoy SWTOR, and that's fine. Not my opinion: There are many game-breaking bugs that affect many people, there are graphical issues like low rez textures, there are a ridiculous amount of loading screens, and unless you have more than 4gig ram you will sit at them for an extended period of time. Combat responsiveness/animations affects most people, if not all(some people don't even seem to realize what it is), Ilum is broken, factions are imbalanced. All these issues, and probably some I've forgotten make it a BAD QUALITY GAME.

I post to debate the issue, not because I care what people think.

I don't get it, are you trying to make a point for me? Because it seems like you are arguing that opinions can be wrong, like I've been saying.

Your mistake is thinking I care what people on these forums think.

What are you on really? Those issues MAKE IT LOW QUALITY. That is not an opinion. If a game is bugged and has as many issues as SWTOR has at release, then it is, by definition low quality. SWTOR was clearly rushed and it shows. Case and point: Legacy system. BioWare already has a black spot from Dragon Age 2, so that doesn't bother me. People losing their jobs is unfortunate, but if that's what has to happen so companies stop retreading these awful WoW clones then so be it.

That...is awful logic. You are comparing a person to a video game. You've lost me. What exactly makes SWTOR high quality to you? SWTOR has one high quality aspect, and that is the story that they so often touted in front of us pre-release, but an MMO cannot hinge on what happens 1-50. In every other way it has fallen short.

It doesn't anger me because I know you're wrong. You're free to think what you want, it doesn't bother me. In fact, it wouldn't bother me if by some miracle SWTOR became successful. Yes I do want it to fail because it will send a clear message that players are tired of this stagnation and lack of creativity, but I don't personally have a dog in the fight. I get plenty of enjoyment from non-MMOs, TV shows and movies. I don't really need an MMO. Also newsflash: You are just as much random player #345345 as I am.

What opinion? Are you denying that there are bugs, combat responsiveness issues, graphical issues, low rez textures or any other of the myriad of problems I see posted here hourly?

What? I'm just debunking your theory, not trying to pick a fight. You posted like it was a fact that there is no mass exodus, when statistical data clearly proves you wrong. Don't you think there's a reason that most threads here are people complaining about issues? Hint: It's because the game is bad.

That doesn't mean anything except that they have set low server caps. Especially if there's only 400k people playing. It's fine to have a different opinion about whether you like the game or not. But trying to claim that SWTOR is a high quality game is bs, whether it's your "opinion" or not. Even based on the amount of bugs, combat responsiveness issues, graphical issues it is a low quality game. Not even counting the fact that the game is an exact copy of WoW with voice acting 1-50.

I really love the amount of people who make claims without any fact. I unsubbed, I have no intention of playing this game again. It's not indicative of an empty game YET, it is indicative of a dying game. If that many people are leaving after a free month in an MMO then your game has failed. You're just making excuses.

Except there is. http://www.swtorarena.com/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/overall-monthly-big.png edit: beaten to it.

It means that it's a Massively Multiplayer Online game. Nothing more. Just because it's in the MMO genre does not mean it needs to be exactly like WoW. It does not take a creative genius to work this out.

What are you talking about? People aren't having fun in the game because it's bad and buggy and a retread of WoW. It has nothing to do with "taking the game too seriously".

Well I had 60 hours played before SWTOR came out and the worst bug I found was when giants killed me I'd get thrown thousands of meters into the air, happened a few times. Not exactly what I'd call gamebreaking next to SWTOR's bugs and general terribleness.

Nope. Removed my credit card info yesterday. At least I'll get to actually finish Skyrim now, and some quality MW3 time. It's actually refreshing to be playing games that aren't bugged, sad.

Don't we all. This is why SWTOR will fall. Of course it's too late, they'd have to rebuild the entire game to make it different to WoW.

I think I'll just give up on MMOs, it's just too disappointing. Plus I have a lot more free time then.

Nope. Even if this game ran perfectly on all machines, had no bugs, no animation delay/combat responsiveness issues and 10 operations it would still be WoW in space. Unsubbed days ago.