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Propane

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  1. Here is HIS essay summarized: Pay to avoid not being able to play the game fully. If you haven't paid, you are trash and you should feel like trash.
  2. Go compare the "restrictions" those games have to the ones swtor have. All of those combined have the amount of restrictions 1/4 of swtor.
  3. What did that teach us? Most of the posts on this forum are too biased.
  4. Since we are posting web based comments as proof, lets look at opinions out of the swtor forum: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/30/bioware-force-tweaks-swtors-f2p-restrictions/ "Nope they still have no understanding of what makes a good F2P game." "What BioWare seems to willingly ignore is that there are F2P MMOs out there that are very popular and quite good, so very few people will want to play a crappier version of this already mediocre MMO instead." "If you make the free version ****, they’re not going to convert, it’s not like it’s Scientology." http://www.gamefront.com/swtors-free-to-play-pros-cons-and-wtfs/ "I tried to go back to the game when it went f2p but after all of 10mins i quit again" "current implementation feels like a slap in the face to anyone who had subscribed at some point in time." "EA and most companies seem to think people are stupid or can blind side them" http://biobreak.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/poll-where-do-you-stand-on-swtors-f2p-switch/ "Game offered nothing new, had WAY too many old design flaws." "Preferred Status is a joke! There are restrictions everywhere! I cant even hide my helm unless i pay 350CC. I wont be playing, not unless Bioware rethinks there strategy. This is the WORSE F2P model i have seen yet!" "model they are using punishes players" http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.394022-Swtor-breaks-the-deadly-sins-of-Free2Play "I've ever seen such blatant money-grubbing in all the games I've tried. 720 Cartel Coins (read: over five bucks) just for colour synchronization and helmet removal for my playable characters? Repeat that for my AI companions? And goodbye side toolbars? *********** hell! I don't even know if I want to play this any more!" "PvP and raiding also locked behind the paywall?" "it's just EA trying to loot every last bit of money before Tortanic finally sinks to the bottom of the dead WOW clone sea."
  5. " Wedbush's Michael Pachter believes" And come on the gamespot website? That is the last place you want to look.
  6. The point is, why is SWTOR so special in this "Free to Play" model? Why don't all the Pay to Win MMOs that went free use this exact same model? The answer is because EA wants to squeeze every last bit of money they can out of you.
  7. Name one in the next min without using Google for once.
  8. The story quests in SWTOR cannot keep a player going, it boils down to the decisions you make only changing 1-2 lines of text. If people wanted to play a single player story line, they can go play KOTOR. But people came here to play a Bioware Star Wars MMO. But with the free to play restrictions - they are down to having to demo the MMO parts of the game, as in PVP, Raids, Flashpoints, High level gear, ect.
  9. And here you go again trying to deny the truth. The game is thought to cost a 500-600 million budget. Tell me where that all went to, seeing how maintaining a servers cost only around 300k every 2 years.
  10. Maybe when your parents aren't paying for your subscription, this will make more sense.
  11. Go look at other Pay to Plays that went free: they don't have the amount of demo restrictions SWTOR have. What makes SWTOR so special? The fact that they poured 600 million dollars into a game that most went into advertising? Those CGI trailers that were more entertaining than the actual game?
  12. Page 42 of people trying to defend EA! Shows the dedication of how much people love the feeling of EAware's hand in their wallet.
  13. Those "blue rabbit" restrictions in swtor are gameplay changing. Payments should only be used to broaden the gaming experience without affecting the gameplay itself. Free players experience a TOTALLY different version of swtor. The demo version that "allows" them to get to 50 if they can stand through the restrictions. So the only way to try and get out of that argument was "YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT! LETS JUST SAY IT DOESN'T EXIST SO I'M RIGHT"
  14. Yes you can, but did you mention the price it takes? If you want to pay 600$ just to get a few gold , thats fine because not everyone has 600$ they can pay on hand. WHILE IN SWTOR'S CASE, tons of people have 15 bucks on hand. So tons of people can afford to be better than those who play for free. But I'm sure you already knew that.
  15. It doesn't encourage them, it forces them to pay if they actually want to experience the actual game. You don't really have to worry about the F2Pers because you are subbed. Don't speak on their behalf. Now if they could post on the swtor website, this forum would have a complete different feeling. Everyone here is subbed and they don't really care what free players do.
  16. Welcome to the world of reading, he was posting about paying with ingame coins. Why don't we go back to why you are still stumped on our last argument why all your arguments boil down to "Just pay to avoid Pay to Win restrictions" You can google anything is pay to win sir, doesn't make you seem any smarter.
  17. Now lets go back to how I stumped you because all your argument boils down to is "Pay to avoid the pay to win restrictions Free players have on them"
  18. You obviously haven't played much MMO's if you are calling GW2 a WoW rip off. You probably haven't played WoW if you aren't calling SWTOR a WoW rip off. Now keep GW2 off of here. SWTOR's F2P model is horrible and everyone here defending EAware's practices should feel bad.
  19. Free players: "Cannot equip Purple Level Items unless on Cartel Market." As pay to win as it can get.
  20. Now then, keep GW2 off of this forum, because all of the SWTOR fanboys are going to sit here and type up lies. Now lets talk about SWTOR is pay to win.
  21. I wanted to keep GW2 off of this fourm but really - I doubt you've played it. Swtor only averages about 1k players per server. Which isn't that much. "juvenile MMO offering that caters to people with short attention spans and basic game skills." - sounds like you are explaining swtor. Press one and watch your skill bar. Short attention spans - that would defiantly be swtor: explosions and deep grumble voices. "Basic gaming skills" It takes little skill but 200x it takes to play swtor. And why lie about playing GW2? Just to make SWTOR seem any bit higher than the half-assed WoW ripoff gameplay it already is? Differance between the game is that GW2 took risks and made the game amazing. Giving players free content every two weeks that EAware here would probably make us pay 20$ for. SWTOR here took WoW mechanical with fancy animations and tied mobs into groups of three, making it seem like you were an action hero for those who have short attention spans.
  22. GW2 is obviously better - it shouldn't even be compared to SWTOR. Now lets get back on topic. Remember when swtor had over 100 servers at launch? Doubt you do. Yeah we all left out of disappointment. Remember when EAware promised us MAC versions at launch?Same Sex? Guild Ships? Still hasn't happened. They gotta work on gettin that Ewok and another reskinned human race on the Cartel Coin to squeeze more money out of idiots than rather improving the bland half-assed gameplay.
  23. Of course I am not, stop assuming.
  24. I don't plan on playing this game free, and no one should. You are assuming too much of what I am saying.
  25. It was Pay to Play, but now it isn't and it shouldn't be used as a handicap to make an excuse that the F2P model is so atrocious. Tons of other Pay to Play MMO's haven't used their previous model as a handicap to make a bad F2P model, what makes SWTOR so special?
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