IF by been vigilance/vengeance you think you are pure DPS then you are completely wrong and you certainly missed the role of our class. Vigilance/vengeance isnt dps , it is offtank/dps and our cooldowns are just fine serving that role. We don't rly need anything. Let BW work on more important stuff.

By the time you build your smash criticals etc, vengeance has already done 10K and counting....and what you say about more crit chances is not true, we get 60% more critical chance after impale and shatter for vicious throw and scream, so thats like all the time... Before you troll about other spec ppl do math or go back to school. Both specs are equal and while your rage spec gets nerfed we get buffed , u mad about that bro ? WE DONT CARE !!!

I think he is angry cause our smash is free....I cant explain it otherwise...

50 lvl Jug and 42 lvl Sentinel here so: No it isnt hard and its not bad design as stated above...

I had some really fun world pvp skirmishes in the pvp server I play my republic toon, but nothing bigger than just skirmishs. Not complaining though, its fun.

Cause they are HARDCOREZ !!! They only pvp while having 30 healers 50 tanks 200 dpsers...

If you want !!! REAL !!! pvp go play EVE and cut this bs about GW and SWTOR, swtor pvp is fun and rewarding but dont tell me 1)that it sucks and 2) that real pvpers play GW....really you are making yourselves look like real fools.

And that is supposed to be smart and feel awesome about it ? Seriously....?

This.

Why not its fun, nice warzones and easy way to upgrade your gear if you love doing warzones... Why everything has to be bad actually? If you are not satisfied why you are here and why you are still paying for SWTOR ?

This + HUGE weapons and asian style = NO!!!

Jug here....but I am lvling a sentinel so dont call me intruder or anything I was reading page...1 i think and I guy was complaing that with tanking spec he cant kill ppl in pvp....well...sorry mate but you are doing it wrong! 1) Being a tnak in PVP doesnt mean you will kill everyone and you will never die, taunt enemies,guard and help finish enemies...thats the way to go. 2)DPS in PVP , i am vengeance atm no idea how its called for jedis, but not the focus so its the other one. you will never do the DPS you are intended to do not until you get the two attacks from the spec tree. So have patience thats all. Its really rewarding after you get them. Trust me Thats my humble opinion

In my sentinel I picked Combat as I never liked dots and i don't see why dots are better in pvp (love pvping) than burst damage...Anyway point is, I play combat cause I like it, who cares if watchman is better or focus or whatever. Play however you love playing and have fun.

I love pvping with my Jug tbh, both tanking spec and nowdays vengeance, seriously those sages and sorcs go down pretty easily (except healers, those need few interrupts) However, the class is really fine and better for devs to work for bigger issues (operativs/scoundrels) for example. Most of the times if we are bad in one class it prolly means it doeasnt fit us, so just pick another class, but dont generalise this like "the class sucks" cause it sure isnt. Let devs work on more serious matters, there are other classes who have serious problems and some people here whinne about classes that work as intended.

You missed a few posts in the previous pages mate...I got a life dont worry about me

LOL you are so sad haha Go to the mirror say low-thinking and there you have it.

So you want to win every single WZs cause you actually are paying for playing ? Seriously now ??? ... Get a life...seriosuly get it, its great...

Phobos

How many more threads are you going to make Cylak ??? Wow-troll for sure.

people should scream Up the Irons rather QQing. you ll play...no need to be miserable and angry...patient

To all those haters: Iron Maiden - Chains of Misery , listen to it, it ll help you.

You can't change anything in that way OP. just be patient.

So QQ or we must shut up... ???

You 're missing the point here. Some people just read forums for more info about early access at this point or general stuff but only see whining...If you like that its your problem.

I'm not but I see no reason for drama and whinning...Yes I want to play but still thats not a reason to hate the developers or the company or the game or whatever. I'm just tired seeing all this **** in forums.