Wow. This is pretty bad. I think bioware should just remove the skill tree if they are going to make it unplayable. My rotation feels cumbersome with the increased CD on BS it does not flow any more. I use my rifle shot as a filler because all my other skills are on CD. I really like playing conceal operative and this is the second round of nerfs I have played through but i am getting tired of this. We were designed to be a burst class now we have crappy burst and less sustain dps power. I just dont understand where they are taking this class. Maybe ill come back for 1.3 Ymero

Alright I kinda feel this is a buff and I am going to tell you why. Before the nerf we had 3 seconds to kill some one before they would start owning our face that 3 seconds was the Knock Down on shoot first/hidden strike alright POST nerf here is the break down A. Sure they nerfed our hidden strike BUT they reduced the resolve to about 1/3 of the resolve bar B. they nerfed our acid blade BUT we now have 7 seconds to kill some one. Let me explain how this is a buff. Open with hidden 1.5 seconds of stun then shiv Lacerate x2 if you are quick you are going to get off the shiv and you are going to start the lacerate before they get up your second lac is while they are standing now Debilitate 4 second stun reapply acid blade Back stab IF they are not dead pop Cloaking screen hidden strike 1.5 more seconds of stun that second hidden will cap the resolve but if you didnt kill them in 7 seconds you need to go re-Roll a Bounty hunter so you can just tracer spam win. WE NOW CAN KILL A COMPLETELY STUN LOCKED TARGET I DID IT ALL DAY YESTERDAY SPEC INTO DEBILITATE AND WIN

Oh and if you want to nerf something try Tracer missile that move is completely "skill" based and can just be spamed over and over and BOOM 400k damage

Lvl 30 is not tearing you to shreds my brother plays a fully champ geared jug and I can not tear him to shreds and I am a full champ geared op so you sir are over exaggerating or plain lying one or the other sure we do a lot of burst damage but IF you pop your defensive cool down no one will tear you to shreds other then a merc with tracer missiles.

So Devs... IF we are no longer going to be a viable BURST class are we going to be a sustained damage class? What is our functionality in PVP/PvE now? We have no sprint/gap closing ability not very good sustained damage and even less with the change to acid blade can we expect to see the class revamped to make us viable? I am a fully champion geared concealment operative and I do a lot of damage but only for a short amount of time when I use my relic/adrenal if I am attacked or pulled out of stealth and every thing does not go just right for me my damage is laughable mercs and jugs just laugh at me healers bubble and laugh at me while they heal their whole life bar. please explain the changes to my class and how we will be functional post 1.11

Eh.. I do pretty decent damage in PvE the only time I ever use HS is when the cool down for vanish is up in PvE anyway so that will not change that much. What is going to hurt operative damage in PvE is the loss of the 20% of Acid Blade armor pen, we will have to see how that affects us long term. With these changes I do not see me attacking a tank class at all anymore in PVP will not be worth it, we never have had sustained damage only the burst and with our burst gone we will be forced to focus only light and some medium armored classes. Also the the person that does not believe that operatives contribute in PVP as we are now has never played with a good operative.

What up rasilla Eh.. I do pretty decent damage in PvE the only time I ever use HS is when the cool down for vanish is up in PvE anyway so that will not change that much. What is going to hurt operative damage in PvE is the loss of the 20% of Acid Blade armor pen, we will have to see how that affects us long term. With these changes I do not see me attacking a tank class at all anymore in PVP will not be worth it we never have has sustained damage only the burst and with our burst gone we will be forced to focus only light and some medium armored classes. Also the the person that does not believe that operatives contribute in PVP as we are now has never played with a good operative.

This is just a knee jerk reaction to all of the QQing on the forums by light armor glow-stick waving classes that are angry that they do not wear med armor and are squishy. Low level squishys were the primary QQing force that brought about this nerf now that we are not in the same pvp bracket the QQ will subside. I know that I will still destroy all the crybaby's even with my nerfed hidden strike and acid blade and we will be buffed again but skill>nerfs we will be fine just learn to play your class pick your fights wisely I will be keeping my operative as my main because whoever ends up being the new "OP" class (and by OP I do not mean OP I mean its the new class all the $hittys whine about) will get nerfed next. So stay the course if it breaks us so be it we will get fixed eventually. Ymero Ebon Hawk 50 operative valor rank 57

You obviously struggle with the reading comprehension portion of this "forum" thing...I have never said we should have mixed PVP what I want is cross server PVP let me break this down for you Server A Server B 8 level 50 players 8 level 50 players \ / \ / \ / dedicated PVP SERVER FIGHT!

I was in the game on the FIRST day of pre-launch there was no more populated side

People need to read my original post again before they start talking about how "I am mad I cant farm low levels" I NEVER SAID I wanted mixed pvp again I am completely FINE with the 50 bracket of PVP I stated that the wait time to reward needs adjusting. When I said "good fix" I have never been apart of a mass Ilum pvp trade kill but I have seen this on YouTube and I am willing to be 1,000,000 credits that is not what the developers had in mind that is why in my fixes for Ilum I want it to be like a warzone that has a Que time and a cool down like the PVP zone in World of Warcraft Please READ before you flame me for not being able to farm noobs or mass people on Ilum

I still do not have to try in PVP but I have to wait to not try...

I really enjoyed PVP until this patch. Que times are to long Ilum is a JOKE. Have you seen the farming videos on YouTube good fix on my server hardly ever see a republic player on ilum so I now have to wait for crates to re-spawn AWESOME... I am valor level 57 I PVPed all through leveling and LOVED it I feel I am being punished for being level 50. now I am not one to complain with out giving suggestions. Ilum- needs to be set up like Tol Barad in wow go ahead and completely rip the concept make it so you can Que for it just like a regular war-zone put it on a 2 hour cool down DONE FIXED Level 50 PVP Que times are way to long cross server Ques would fix the problem. right now I spend 30-40 min in a Que mostly win and come away with about 1000 valor less in huttball because we cap fast. just a sad rate not bad when Ques were 2 min if you do not have the ability to run cross server PVP increase the rewards for lvl 50 pvp warzones make it worth my 30 min in que. But really the moral of this story is to FIX ILUM do something with it to make it fun because looting crates with super small warheads in them is not star wars like. Tarkin did not camp crates he blew up whole rebel worlds.. your welcome I just fixed your pvp issues Ymero Ebon Hawk

I have been sitting in Que for the new "level 50" PVP now for 27 min. Working as intended? now that there is a MUCH smaller pool for level 50 PVP will we see cross server PVP ques in the near future? I hope so because the way it is looking now I will be here for a hour and a half just trying to do my daily that is if I win all three matches. Disappointed Bio-Ware Disappointed... Ymero Server: Ebon Hawk

Please put in duel spec