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The Chiss actually do have dealings with the Hutts. In fact, you'll encounter a lot of people across the game who speak Huttese on the various classes. I encountered a noble of Alderaan who spoke it fluently just because it was so little used outside of the Outer Rim and Huttspace.
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That's untrue. The Jedi accept dark side concepts. They don't try to eradicate the dark side. The dark side will exist even without the Sith. There's other Dark Side religions than Sith. The Jedi don't strive to turn the galaxy "Light." The Jedi understand things like pain, suffering, disease, death, anger, and hatred are things that are natural. They use only the light side of the force but they follow the force as a whole. Yoda practically tells Anakin if his mother is meant to die. Just let her go. Accept it and don't mourn for her. Cherish the moments he had with her.
Without the Sith there will still be wars. The dark side will continue to exist. There are other Dark Side religions the Jedi don't mess with. The Jedi do not use the light as a tool nor the force. They are SERVANTS of the Force. If it's the "will" of the force not to get involved. They simply won't get involved. Even if it means many people dying. If that's what's meant to happen. That's what's meant to happen.
The Sith are the ones that unbalance the force. They strive to plunge the entire galaxy into darkness and destroy the Light side of the force entirely. This is why they need to be destroyed. This is why balance is the eradication of the Sith.
Original poster re-read what you've stated and you'll see why it's the Sith that throw the force out of balance.
Jedi = Want to defeat the Sith.
Sith = Want to destroy EVERYTHING
See the problem?
Only problem I see is why the Jedi had to begin this whole mess in the first place...
They also don't accept Dark side concepts. They reject them. Hell, the entire code is basically about rejecting the concepts that lead to the Dark side.
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Didn't you hear? The Empire conquered all the fashion designers.
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The Empire pretty much breaks the back of the Republic on Taris.
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I'd say Grievous is on the list as well... even if he only had a very small number of organic parts left to him, he was pretty excellent at wielding his lightsabers. He did duel... what was it, 4 Jedi at once and triumphed for his unorthodox fighting style?
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What is not clear is what race can mate with each other.
It also says indeed that Chiss might be a long lost human colony, so can they have kids with Human?
Sith Pureblood apparently can, but can Twilek mate with human? And Ratataki? etc
Guess we ll see that when they implement the legacy family tree.
I think it's been said that humans and twi'lek aren't able to have children with one another.
And sith only had children with humans through their Alchemy.
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I get this although so far, I really like one thing, I was just thinking about this the other day. You see, in the movies - we never see Sidious being weak. In the movies - he's at full power, he's made. He's terribly strong by the time we get to know his character. I liken the SI to Sidious when he was younger. Obviously power didn't just come to him - he sought artifacts, trained, and studied sith sorcery, lore and what have you.
That's your Sith Inquisitor. Thus when he becomes Darth, now he can be Palpantine.
While this is true there is also a problem with that. When you think of a Sith Warrior are you honestly thinking of a person deeply enmeshed in intrigue and Sith politics? Or are you thinking of a frontline powerhouse whose main goal in life is to crush the enemies of the Empire under his heel?
And when you think of the Inquisitor, are you honestly thinking about relic hunting and consuming ghosts? While, yes, this could be an aspect of the story, should it compromise almost the entire thing? The Inquisitor should have had so much more subtlety and intrigue, it quite honestly feels like the Warrior storyline originally belonged to the Inquisitor, and then got trashed in favor of the writings of a woman who hasn't finished college.
... and sadly, the last part is true.
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The JK is dominated by the Emperor, as is his strike team, and they all fall to the Dark Side. You basically are told you've been a Sith for a "long time", and have done terrible things under the Emperor's control. The only reason you break free is because the spirit of your Master is able to free you, and then Scourge is able to get you and your companions out of the Emperor's fortress.
I like this explanation more.
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Sith Pureblood refers to any creature that exhibits the dominant traits of the sith race. Prior to the current era, the less traits of that ancestry demonstrated was more desirable (meaning if you had sith blood but looked human you were top of the top). In the current era, the darker red your skin, the darker red your eyes, and the more prominent your sith features (facial tentacles, bone ridges, etc.) the better you are.
The hierarchy basically goes:
Sith Pureblood
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Human Sith (optimal to have some SP blood)
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Force-sensitive Aliens (Sith who are twi'leks, for example)
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Non-Force users
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Aliens
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Actually that is one of his defining features. For some vague reason, the Jedi Knight is one of only three known people who fought off the Emperor's influence after ebing exposed to it and are therefore able to resist that ability of the Emperor as a result. He is sent to fight what they believe is the Emperor pretty much by himself rather than an army of Jedi because he can resist the effects.
... No offense to JK players what-so-ever with this comment but... here I thought the SW storyline was filled with making you Mary Sue. Not that it's a bad thing but that is just... yeah.
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A couple of people in this thread have mentioned other people "saying" that the consular story is "the worst" but I have never actually heard anyone say that they disliked the consular story. I know they exist but it's hard for me to believe that the consular story is "bad" when no one makes it a point to say it.
I've seen it said a few times... much less than the Inquisitor, however.
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Yeah, but Darth Eyeball was the first funny that came to mind in going 'Wat?' at it.
Wasn't a bad thing. SW canon traditionally names Darths in distorted evilbad fashions directly derivate of RL words and connotations. Darth Vader, Dark Father? I might be seeing a faintly hazed correlation where none was implied, but I suspect it was implied.
If its intended as such, it's actually kinda clever on the psychological note. Phonetic similes can carry an abstract implication without subscribing to a literal, specific reference or derivation.
Darth Vader as an example again only makes sense as a phonetic simile when you know the story and can go "Hmm. Sounds an awful lot like Darth Father. He really was that; did Lucas intend for that to be an 'Aha!' in retrospect, or am I just making up correlations to perceive here?"
Darth Nihilus, Darth Ravage, Darth Bane, Darth Maul, Darth Sidious (insidious?), Darth Revan (raven?), Darth Nox/Occlus/Imperious (latin in a galaxy far, far away and long, long ago?).
Pretty plain that naming conventions with Sith are blatant appeals to the phonetic correlation in some cases at least, with lots of wiggle room to mistakenly assume that a cigar is more than a cigar on yet others (such as might be the case with Vader).
The mere fact that it engages the curiosity sells it though. Good stuff.
Don't forget "Darth Tyrannus".
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Why is it that people consider Consular/Inquisitor stories horrible? I have only played up to act 1 on my SI, and my consular is barely L11 but I love them both.
The consular is an exemplar of the order, serene/peaceful. The SI is on a path to infinite power. They both seem interesting so far in. So do tell please (I got no problem with spoilers), what do you find wrong with their stories?
I've seen JK story, and it's nice - but the JK character feels much more emotion driven - his dialogue especially... Less Jedi like, though I don't mind.
I think most people have a problem with the Inquisitor more than the Consular because, well, let's be serious.
The Inquisitor class is essentially based off of Sidious, he's the best example we have of a Sith Sorcerer that all can draw from and the dude is a master at manipulation, deception, etc. He's very powerful, he's able to corrupt Jedi, so on and so forth.
The Inquisitor storyline, from the little I've done, has me feeling like Indiana Jones with a lightsaber. Then later on I find out I'm a Ghostbuster with a lightsaber. No matter how awesome it'd be to picture Bill Murray as a Sith/Jedi, I can't reconcile the two ideas.
To give examples from my warrior:
I end up corrupting a Jedi Master in single combat through a series of taunts and threats. He fully falls to the Dark side, then the icing on the cake? I corrupt his Apprentice and have her slay her former Master. That's two corruptions in one sitting.
My warrior has gone back on enough promises to fill a graveyard.
The storyline is filled with multiple overarching themes: the personal rise to power, the intrigue of Sith politics, corruption and betrayal, etc.
To top it off the storyline feels steady compared to the Inquisitor. Playing through the Warrior storyline is like reading a story with a set plot. From what I've read of the Inquisitor, it's like playing through a series of short stories that only remain consistent in the main character.
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Eh? Apparently I failed at being silly, because I wasn't knocking it. I was, in fact, being goofy in throwing no-spoilers on it. Tried to be funny and failed, perhaps, but I'm by no means disappointed with the SW story.
It was really good. I wasn't kidding about missing the best parts if one gave up at 27. It does nothing but get better from there.
Ah, then my mistake! Just figured you were another person trashing it and all
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Ironically I did the complete opposite. I had a JK up to level 35. I had just finished Act 1. But I switched to a Sith Warrior instead. There are pros and cons to both sides. I can't speak for anything beyond level 30 for either class, but I can list these opinions of mine.
Jedi Knight Pros:
- Classic Jedi heroic story
- Empire are jerks and you fight them
- Kira is surprisingly entertaining in both story and snarky comments
- Jedi interrupt spin kick is way cooler than the sith equivalent
- From what I hear, you have an epic story ending (with fireworks going off, etc)
Jedi Knight Cons:
- The storyline is very cliche
- You're pigeon-holed as a peace-loving space hippie
- You have to go a long time without a healer companion
- If you go Guardian, you're stuck with hooded robes forever. I was so sick of my hood I was pulling my hair out.
- T7 is a pain to gear out
Sith Warrior Pros:
- Unusual storyline
- You don't have to avoid your passion
- You wont' feel bad for killing idiot npcs nor punished by your faction
- The storyline emotionally connects you as you want to bring the hurt on others
- You're not a peace-loving space hippie
- You can actually see your entire head with most gear choices
- Force Chock >>> Force stasis
- You get to see that the republic is nearly as underhanded as the empire and is less honest about it
- You get your healer a lot earlier
Sith Warrior Cons:
- The story ending (from what I've heard) isn't so epic
- A lot of helms cover your mouth and alter your speech (which could be considered a pro I guess)
- Your fellow sith are as much a threat as any jedi
- You'll hate your master
- You'll be asked to do despicable things (and the light-sided choices are sometimes equally despicable)
Ask yourself, do you prefer to think of yourself as a paladin saving the universe from evil or do you harness your warrior fury and rage to defeat your foes?
I like this post and would like to add my own thoughts on the ending bit.
It depends on what you think is cool, while there isn't any fanfare and celebration like the Jedi, depending on conversation choices, you can end the Warrior storyline on a high or low note... bah, there's no help for it, gotta do a spoiler!
The choice I made is basically my character telling the Dark Council to mind themselves because he will be there to put them down. Essentially threatening them to keep them in line and remind them they do not rule the Empire, the Emperor does. Then each and every last member of the Dark Council bows to you as you make your departure.
I enjoyed that more, and as some have said it has the feeling that 'this is only the beginning' for the Warrior instead of a definitive end.
- Classic Jedi heroic story
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Yeah. The middle part of the SW story is a bit of a 'go here, kill X, go there, kill Y, go thither, kill Z' marathon that concludes in a fairly spiffy "Kill the dude!" affair that sets you up beautifully for what's gonna be coming next.
Where things get interesting, and then more interesting, and then even more interesting when THE THING YOU KNEW WAS COMING SOMETIME happens.
And then you're all "Oh it's ON now!", and then you kill more dudes because, hey, let's face it, you're a Sith Warrior; killing all the dudes is why you exist. But this time, it's personal; you want these dudes dead, you want to kill their families in their front yard and burn their houses down as examples to everyone else.
And then there are the dudes that are all like, " 'Sup. You and His Emperory Bigness, you're down. So like, kill these dudes that you wanna kill anyway with some absolutely official encouragement to kill them dudes"
And then you're all "I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, B**CH!" even if you're a marauder, and at the end, when the shmuck is all "O'noez you can't do this, somebody help me; somebody, anybody!" you're all like, "FALCON PAWNCH!" and it is on like crayon.
At when it's all said and done, those fools in their fancy chairs know. They KNOW what's up, and then you walk into the camera like you're gonna grab the theoretical person holding it, eat their bleepy-bleeping costume and smash the camera for daring to exist in your presence.
It's kinda like that. You missed the best parts if you gave up at 27.
I could do this too, but I think this will sum up your entire post: i mad bro
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*facepalm*
Can't you read? He said that Windu was the only one who matches Dooku in SABER SKILL COMBAT. Anakin defeated Dooku, so i guess Windu was not the only one? I did not say Anakin was better in combat then Windu.
L2read?
Then be clearer next time!
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Darth Nox? They named my inquisitor Darth Occlus as I recall, and it kinda made me go "So, wait, I'm Darth Eyeball? Bahahahahaha". This is the first I've heard of a Darth Nox.
I wonder if my inquisitor being an assassin...affected that? I'll have to get my sorc to 50 and see, perhaps.
Actually, as Darth Occulus you are 'Darth to trample'.
Now if you were Darth Oculus you'd be 'Darth Eye'.
Spelling errors in Latin can make a hell of a difference!
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Occulus - Light side.
Imperius - Empire-aligned.
Nox - Dark side.
Basically, means.
If you make choices that don't benefit the Empire but are overall good, you become Occulus.
If you make decisions based on furthering the Empire, you become Imperius.
If you make decisions that further yourself, you become Nox.
The latter two have good meaning behind them, after all.
Nox is Latin for dark/night.
Imperius is Latin for sovereignty, realm, command, power to command, authority, rule, control.
Occulus, oddly enough, is Latin for 'to trample'. Which is fitting if you only do inherently good things, you're essentially trampling on the beliefs of the Sith and the views of the Empire.
AHA! I found out the reason for my confusion!
There are two words in Latin spelled almost exactly the same and sounding exactly the same.
Occulus and Oculus. The former meaning to trample and the latter, of course, meaning 'eye'.
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I was nothing but 27, so I know I missed out on a lot of the SW storyline. Main reason I switch was because of the massive faction imbalance. Even still, I somewhat find more purpose out of the JK storyline.
Ah, yeah. I think you're on...
... Nar Shadda at that point?
Yeah, for the SW it takes a bit to pick up! But to each their own and etc.
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What level did you switch from your SW?
Just curious, is all.
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Let's consider something about the power of the Emperor compared to that of a Jedi...
Being in the mere presence of the Emperor is enough to corrupt a person to the Dark side. That, to me, means any Jedi who suddenly comes into the same room as the Emperor would suddenly become a new Sith or a Dark Jedi.
I doubt the JK character is strong enough to resist -that-.
Not to mention, as others have said, he has power greater than any living Sith or Jedi, because he is immortal. I doubt a being who can devour the life force of an entire planet, and all the other things the Emperor has done, is going to be done in by a single Jedi. No matter how powerful.
Taken from wookiepedia:
The Sith Emperor was a frighteningly powerful and proficient practitioner of the dark side of the Force. Even at a young age, Tenebrae proved to have immense potential in the use of the Force. When he was just a child of six, he was able to use the Force to kill his father by telekinetically breaking his neck, and torture his mother to death over a prolonged period. Also, when he was only ten years old, he was able to strip the Sith Lord Dramath of his power and mind. The Emperor possessed a great knowledge of Sith Magic. His usage of Sith Sorcery was overwhelmingly destructive, evidenced when he used his power to drain the life and Force from his home planet, granting him immortality. Another one of the Emperor's talents was being able to dominate the minds of other beings. His mind control powers were enough to completely overpower the wills of both Revan and Malak. The Sith Lord's power in Sith Magic also allowed him access to the Illusion spell, such as when he created duplicates of himself against a lone Jedi sent to kill him.
The Sith Emperor was also skilled in the use of telekinesis, able to unleash overpowering waves of Force energy without the use of a hand gesture like most Force-users. The strength of his telekinesis was enough to send Revan flying across his throne room and effortlessly disintegrate T3-M4. The Sith Emperor was also able to create a shield of Force energy around himself, such as when he defended himself from T3-M4's flamethrower. The Dark Lord of the Sith was extremely skilled in the use of Force Lightning, utilizing it in the form of a single bolt or a devastating Force Storm. The voltage of his Force Lightning was enough to severely wound a Jedi of Revan's caliber. When enraged, his normally black eyes would flash red, demonstrating his deep immersion in the dark side. The Sith Emperor could also drain knowledge out of his victims, such as when he attempted to learn Republic secrets from Revan while the Jedi was in stasis. The Dark Lord also had an affinity with the use of telepathy, such as when he formed a mental link with his apprentice Exal Kressh.
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Have to second that. When you bring Jaesa with you, she even says that she can't feel anything else but confidence in Quinn's soul so this "assassination attempt" is as sincere as it can get.
Man, I really hope that with more companions being added and companions stories being expanded, subject of Quinn will be touched and allow us the option to conclude the deal and find ourselves another healer.
Since I forgot about that part, I'll concede that Quinn wasn't as smart as he needed to be
. Still gonna be damn hard to find a replacement for him... but when I do, like I said, gonna let Pierce have his fun with soldier-boy.I totally get what you are saying. Too bad others on the thread don't xD It seems to be an epidemic in-game: people who play sith automatically think you have to always be bloody minded and 'evil' to be true sith. I think that idea is wrong.The main reason behind it is simple, really. On a general basis, humanity cares about life. The life of living things, etc. The Sith operate on a different mentality, but one that is in itself an immutable law of nature: survival of the fittest. At it's crudest level, the Sith Code is basically saying 'the strong survive and the weak die off'.
Of course people will misinterpret this into believing the philosophy is fundamentally evil or something. Not to mention many Sith aren't quite content in letting the weak just die off naturally... they want to hurry the process! But those Sith aren't the ones in ultimate power... and the Dark Council from the few times you encounter them seems to be rather... conservative.
Basically they aren't killing every person for the tiniest error!
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I'm sorry mate, but canonically, the Emperor lives on. If you played through the Warrior quest line you'd know that the servants of the Emperor wouldn't concoct such a plan. They... they kind of lack the ability to do so, which you realize just from talking to them.
Not to mention Vitiate is a Force ghost, pretty much. He's pretty much impossible to kill.
Emperor's Wrath vs. Darth Nox (spoilers)
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Something tells me the Emperor will have made our Warrior immortal as well. Doesn't do to have a Wrath that can be killed.