kissingaiur Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Saw a post on Reddit that bolster has been removed. Seems like an extreme statement. Anyone confirm? I currently cannot test this myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Didn't see it in the patch notes, either way I'll be getting some WZ's in and picking up my command tokens in around 5 hours. EDIT: apparently they have? at least according to this guy's thread? http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=911919 Edited January 24, 2017 by jedcjedcjedc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam_celestial Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 It's true hottie, there are basically no changes between my stats inside and outside a warzone (same goes for ranked). For example the ~3% accuracy addition you used to get before is gone. I am in 230-234-240 gear + augs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 went from 134k HP to 118 HP inside a WZ Crit rating/Surge/Alacrity/ MAx DAmage everything changed Didn't do the mat arround the decrease GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On one hand I'm inclined to think this would either be a bug or they are trying to "fix" bolster before they re-release it. on the other hand if this is the case, at least the gear will mean something and when people get to around t2-t3 it will be pretty decent balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissingaiur Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) went from 134k HP to 118 HP inside a WZ Crit rating/Surge/Alacrity/ MAx DAmage everything changed Didn't do the mat arround the decrease GG Wait so you decreases in stats when entering a warzone? That means something is there but it's decreasing your stats. Interesting. Do you still receive the bolster buff within a warzone? Edited January 24, 2017 by kissingaiur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Wait so you decreases in stats when entering a warzone? That means something is there but it's decreasing your stats. Interesting. Do you still receive the bolster buff within a warzone? i think he means what he used to have with bolster as to what he has now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam_celestial Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Here is a comparison before/after in regs (i think for ranked it's the same). http://imgur.com/a/mvrcf 1st Image: 5.1 Outside of warzone (on guild ship) 2nd Image: 5.1 bolstered, unranked 3rd Image: How it was in 5.0, in a warzone (unranked) <-- Comparison here is slightly skewed, as for 1st and 2nd Image I had an accuracy enhancement where for 3rd image (before 5.1) I had a critical enhancement instead. I am leaving 3rd image just to give a general direction. Image 1 and 2 give the true picture. I am in 230-234-240 gear and versatile stim (all class buffs). If you need more details, let me know. I just hope all the work you did figuring out the bolster would not be in vain. I do receive the bolster buff (the icon is there) but the stats are practically the same, only marginal differences. Edited January 24, 2017 by iam_celestial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 i think he means what he used to have with bolster as to what he has now. this I get +3k HP entering a WZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam_celestial Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Also, I got ~500 points for a ranked win, before it was like 700? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissingaiur Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 i think he means what he used to have with bolster as to what he has now. I was about to say lol. Interesting. If it was intended I don't understand why they wouldn't put this in patch notes. It is a pretty big change. Hm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdorBurnz Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Sounds like you are noticing this from the patchnotes: Warzones Bolster now improves players up to 232 Item Rating (down from 250). http://www.swtor.com/r/XWVrkk for free game time and starter items. Edited January 25, 2017 by TrogdorBurnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I was about to say lol. Interesting. If it was intended I don't understand why they wouldn't put this in patch notes. It is a pretty big change. Hm I think it's a mistake and not intentional. Hard to imagine they would ninja nerf bolster without one mention of it. Bolster being accidentally altered by patches in the past has happened and that's what i think has occured. On one hand I'm inclined to think this would either be a bug or they are trying to "fix" bolster before they re-release it. on the other hand if this is the case, at least the gear will mean something and when people get to around t2-t3 it will be pretty decent balance. If indeed they simply felt they were not obligated to let us know of such a big change, and it was purposeful, well then I have np with it. However, if they want gears to actually matter and the grind to be worthwhile, then they are probably going to have to drop gears a bit faster and reward more tokens, unassembled parts, or whatever the **** it is we need for the higher tier armors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Sounds like you are noticing this from the patchnotes: Warzones Bolster now improves players up to 232 Item Rating (down from 250). ahh ok. This is probably what it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 ahh ok. This is probably what it is then. So instead they just make the gear completely worthless? you can CRAFT higher gear than bolster, ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On one hand I'm inclined to think this would either be a bug or they are trying to "fix" bolster before they re-release it. on the other hand if this is the case, at least the gear will mean something and when people get to around t2-t3 it will be pretty decent balance. Except people that are new players or are just getting out of the 65 brackets will be 100 % ALWAYS wrecked until they put in their 200 hours minimum PER set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 So instead they just make the gear completely worthless? you can CRAFT higher gear than bolster, ffs! The new bolster , if you could call it that is nonsense. There are people running around with 40 k more health than me and 1000 pri more damage laughing their way to town because tehy spent the last year only playing this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) ok so, someone needs to explain this. does the newer gear bolster down? or do people wearing below 232 gear get bolstered up to 232 and everyone else with the new gear (anywhere up to 242) use their current stats? Edited January 24, 2017 by jedcjedcjedc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 ok so, someone needs to explain this. does the newer gear bolster down? or do people wearing below 232 gear get bolstered up to 232 and everyone else with the new gear (anywhere up to 242) use their current stats? No idea to be honest, all I know was that there was no bolster buff, and I was getting railed and was shooting peas after optimizing my gear for bolster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 No idea to be honest, all I know was that there was no bolster buff, and I was getting railed and was shooting peas after optimizing my gear for bolster. what is your gear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 what is your gear? 230 - 234 all augmented fully optimized pre bolster nerf. People that had higher ( what was the max?) were just obliterating me and laughing at me. And stars help my teammates who had 208, or 216 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azidahka Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I was hoping this was a bug. After resigning myself to the awful 5.0 gear grind, I have slowly accumulated a full set/near full set of purple 230s and have crafted augs/implants that min/max my main toons, based off the info that is out there (thanks Bant, Hottie, and company). With the 5.0 bolster, the gear set ups I have been using seemed to be good enough to last me the entirety of 5.0.... if Bioware didn't change things drastically. At face value, it appears that 5.1 is going to make my current 5.0 gear set ups sub optimal (I'm guessing my crit is going to be well below the soft cap on my dps toons). I'd personally rather pvp gear be easy to obtain, but I am alright with having to put in a little work (4.0 for example). But once I've done that work, I'd like it to last longer than just .1 of the 5.0 phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 230 - 234 all augmented fully optimized pre bolster nerf. People that had higher ( what was the max?) were just obliterating me and laughing at me. And stars help my teammates who had 208, or 216 well they would all bolster to 232. It sounds like you're right on the cap and your teammates would be getting bolstered to around your stats. you also have to think you don't know who has higher than 230's they would have to have full t2 or working on t3 to be that ahead of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azidahka Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 gosh, I was assuming gear above 232 was getting downscaled to 232 and gear below was getting bolstered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissingaiur Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 gosh, I was assuming gear above 232 was getting downscaled to 232 and gear below was getting bolstered? I think it means, anything under 232 will get bolstered up to 232 stats. Everything over 232 gear will not get bolstered and will get you the exact stat amount it says. I will be checking once I download the patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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