raandomname Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well the wait has been worth it prepare for your new Galatic overlords. Providence Destroyer Passengers were converted to cargo: 810,000 more cargo Total Cargo: 860,000 Cargo space Used Cargo: 860,000 100 Shadow Order initiates 1,500 Spies 400 IG-100-2 (800) 8 Legion Commander-1 32 Officers-1 40 Battalion LT-1 88,000 Barc speeders. 12,000 tons of heavy Ammunition =4,000 additional heavy ordinates 200 AT-AA 60,000 1100 HAVw A6 Juggernaut-440000 25 SPHA-M 25 SPHA-C 25 SPHA-AV 75,000 2,500 Slicers -1 2,500 Investigator's- 1 500 interrogator -1 600 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry- 24,000 50 AT-AT 26,000 100 AT-ST 15,000 Vehicles pilots-1 300 T4-B Heavy tank-117000 1 Strikes medium Cruisers 340 Passengers-340 Analysis Complement- 5 AT-AT 10 AT-ST 6,000 Cargo space 20 AT-AA-300 10 Crusader Class Corvette 36,000 Tons 150 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry- 40=6000 5,000 Shadow infiltrator-0.5 5,000 counterIntelligence Agents-0.5 5,000 Shadow agents- 0.5 5,000 Shadow Scouts 0.5 5,000 Shadow Troopers-1 5,000 Barc Speeders-1 43 GR-75 medium transport Cargo Space-817,000 300 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry- 12,000 500 AT-MP- 50,000 80,000 Shadow trooper -80,000 80,000 Shadow scouts - 40,000 80,000 Shadow support trooper -80,000 80,000 Squad leader -80,000 80,000 Shadow Heavy trooper-160,000 500 Nemesis-class gunship-6500 100 HAVw A6 Juggernaut-40000 100 T4-B Heavy tank -39000 1000 2-M Saber-Class Tank-50,000 800 TX-130T-52,000 25 AT-AT 13,000 50 AT-ST Consumables for 450,840 0.1=4508.4*15 days= 67,626 tons of supplies 15 additional Days 50 SPMA- 50,000 500 mechanics-1 ton Total 100 Shadow Initiates 400 IG-100 1,500 Spies 85,000 Shadow troopers 85,000 Shadow Scouts 80,000 Shadow support trooper 80,000 Squad leaders 80,000 Shadow Heavy trooper 5,000 Shadow infiltrator 5,000 counterintelligence Agents 5,000 Shadow agents 15,000 Vehicles pilots. 500 AT-MP 220 AT-AA 25 SPHA-M 25 SPHA-C 50 SPHA 25 SPHA-AV 1050 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry 160 AT-ST 80 AT-AT 500 Nemesis-class gunship 1200 HAVw A6 Juggernaut 400 T4-B Heavy tank 1000 2-M Saber-Class Tank 800 TX-130T 93,000 Barc Speeders 340 Analysis 500 mechanics 12,000 tons of heavy Ammunition =4,000 additional heavy ordinates Legion Setup Legion- 50,200 1 commander 4 officers 4 brigades of 12,500 troops makes up a Legion 5 Battalions Lt. 5 Battalions of 2500 troops comprise a Brigade 1000 squads equal a Battalions 5 soldiers per squad 1 soldier 1 scout/sniper 1 support trooper 1 heavy trooper 1 squad leader Now thats a ground force. Claps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Now thats a ground force. Claps. A little vehicle heavy for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Now thats a ground force. Claps. I told you Its was worth the wait wasn't it.It's similar to what Aurbere was going to do in 1.0 he went ground forces heavy am doing the same so am kinda sacrificeing some of my space force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 A little vehicle heavy for my taste. It's just enough to carry my ground forces Sil other Than that you have 6500 of one vehicle so who really have a lot a ground vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 It's just enough to carry my ground forces Sil other Than that you have 6500 of one vehicle so who really have a lot a ground vehicle? Hey, that one vehicle has a lot of firepower for its weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I hate to be "that guy" J but AFAIK the Juggernaut's are 600 tons each so your totals could be messed up, check with Sil though. Apart from that, that's a great ground force! Trust me its right. Told you now wasn't it worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Hey, that one vehicle has a lot of firepower for its weight. Yup and my vehicles combine have a lot of firepower.Idk about you Sil but I like diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheaterLL Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Not quite sure what you mean... The multiplier is definitely applied. And it is SA due to its awesome carry cap for its size. I have gone through and adjusted the costs of ships you added in ages ago to what they should be. And I never received them. Which ships are you seeing the penalties as incorrect? (Though, not sure what the heck happened to Carrack, fixing that) Awesome carry cap??? With you slapping the MP on the Lucrehulk Freighter this now has >3x the Cargo per Cost than the Hardcell and 5.5x the Cargo per Size. Also don't forget that the Hardcell has literally nothing else: it's slow as crap, has just two dual laser cannons, no shields, a pretty significant weak spot that makes it a one-hit for any kind of missile turbolaser. I could agree with standard, but SOTA is definatly too much. I just noticed that you changed the ship cost calcs so that metal isn't size/2 but it's actually just the size. So all of the ships I submitted have 50% too low metal cost and any that you changed the penalties on also have 50% too low credit cost. As for the Nebulons, quoting the PM I sent you on Nov. 17th (1 week ago): I added a whole bunch of ships to the spreadsheet: Death Star II, Death Star I, Executor, Eclipse, ISD II, ISD I, Victory II, Victory I, Acclamator II, Acclamator I, Immobilizer 418, Nebulon-B, Nebulon-B med, Nebulon-B2, Tartan, YT-1300, GAT-12g Skipray, B-28, GAT-12h Skipray, Supremacy MK IV, TIE Avenger, Delta-7 Aethersprite, Tri-Fighter, Syilure-31 Now with everything corrected, These are all the ships that currently are in my list: Acclamator I - M 172960 - (ST) = C 172960 - W 20900 Acclamator II - M 172960 - (AD +10%) = C 190256 - W 17200 B-28 - M 600 - (AD +20%) = C 720 - W 370 C-9979 - M 54390 - (MP -75%) = C 13597 - W 2400 Corona Frigate - M 19250 - (AD +30%) = C 25025 - W 14100 Delta-7 Aethersprite - M 15 - (AD +10%) = C 17 - W 120 Delta-7B Aethersprite - M 15 - (AD +15%) = C 18 - W 180 DP20 - M 4500 - (SA x2) = C 9000 - W 15450 Tri-Fighter - M 14 - (AD +20%) = C 17 - W 222 Death Star I - M 11309733552 - (SA x2) = C 22619467105 - W 115268800 Death Star II - M 20106192982 - (SA x2) = C 40212385965 - W 138953800 Eclipse - M 35000000 - (SA x2) = C 70000000 - W 11737500 Nebulon-B - M 21600 - (ST) = C 21600 - W 15800 Nebulon-B med - M 21600 - (ST) = C 21600 - W 7200 Executor - M 38000000 - (SA x2) = C 76000000 - W 3270250 GAT-12g Skipray - M 180 - (SA x2) = C 361 - W 375 GAT-12h Skipray - M 180 - (AD +50%) = C 270 - W 355 Battle Dragon - M 196349 - (AQ -45%) = C 107992 - W 201350 Hardcell - M 17600 - (ST) = C 17600 - W 1200 HMP - M 106 - (AD +20%) = C 127 - W 390 Nubian H-Type Yacht - M 304 - (AD +10%) = C 335 - W 12000 Hyena - M 164 - (MP -75%) = C 41 - W 200 Immobilizer 418 - M 90000 - (AD +10%) = C 99000 - W 127500 Imperial II Frigate - M 40000 - (ST) = C 40000 - W 10400 ISD I - M 640000 - (ST) = C 640000 - W 263850 ISD II - M 640000 - (AD +10%) = C 704000 - W 307300 Nubian J-Type 327 - M 1330 - (AD +10%) = C 1463 - W 3000 Nubian J-Type Skiff - M 719 - (AD +10%) = C 791 - W 1200 Lancer Frigate - M 14250 - (AQ -15%) = C 12112 - W 16500 Lucrehulk Battleship - M 4201146 - (ST) = C 4201146 - W 381825 Lucrehulk Core - M 380459 - (SA x2) = C 760918 - W 42000 Lucrehulk Core Ship - M 380459 - (SA x2) = C 760918 - W 37125 Lucrehulk Control Ship - M 4201146 - (AQ -50%) = C 2100573 - W 40950 Lucrehulk Freighter - M 4201146 - (MP -75%) = C 1050286 - W 27300 Miy'til - M 27 - (ST) = C 27 - W 170 Munificent - M 276028 - (AQ -10%) = C 248425 - W 167550 Nantex - M 9 - (AQ -50%) = C 4 - W 30 Nebulon-B2 - M 18698 - (AD +10%) = C 20568 - W 8900 Nova Battle Cruiser - M 36000 - (AD +15%) = C 41400 - W 24000 Providence Destroyer - M 215424 - (ST) = C 215424 - W 237050 Providence Dreadnought - M 866585 - (ST) = C 866585 - W 384100 Recusant Destroyer - M 372907 - (AQ -15%) = C 316970 - W 101400 Recusant Dreadnought - M 1698344 - (AQ -10%) = C 1528510 - W 202800 Seperatist Supply Ship - M 805488 - (AQ -25%) = C 604116 - W 30000 Subjugator - M 2907000 - (AD +50%) = C 4360500 - W 322175 Supremacy MK IV - M 128 - (ST) = C 128 - W 120 Syilure-31 - M 2 - (AQ -30%) = C 2 - W 0 Tartan - M 7500 - (AD +20%) = C 9000 - W 9000 TIE Avenger - M 53 - (AD +15%) = C 61 - W 490 Trident - M 665 - (ST) = C 665 - W 5600 Vulture - M 12 - (MP -75%) = C 3 - W 180 Victory I - M 202500 - (AD +40%) = C 283500 - W 157000 Victory II - M 202500 - (AD +45%) = C 293625 - W 62250 YT-1300 - M 682 - (AD +15%) = C 784 - W 120 Edited November 23, 2015 by CheaterLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Trust me its right. Told you now wasn't it worth the wait. Wait, the Juggernaut only weighs 400 tons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wait, the Juggernaut only weighs 400 tons? No it is 600, not sure what J is thinking. That thing isn't solely a transport, the firepower it way too massive for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Wait, the Juggernaut only weighs 400 tons? It should that's what they cost me in 1.0 Edited November 23, 2015 by Jarons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It should that's what they coated me in 1.0 Dat English. Seriously though, like Star said, it's firepower is way too good to not be considered a heavy combat vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 No it is 600, not sure what J is thinking. That thing isn't solely a transport, the firepower it way too massive for that. Wait than why did Sil allow me to use them as transport in 1.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Plus I sent it to Sil last night and he said everything was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 No it is 600, not sure what J is thinking. That thing isn't solely a transport, the firepower it way too massive for that. The thing is also huge. For the mass system to actualy make sense, it should naturally be one of the heaviest vehicles due to its size alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Plus I sent it to Sil last night and he said everything was fine. I'm going to wait to hear Sil's word on this before I alter my forces, though I've got to say either verdict is a positive for me. Seriously, I think you're going to win that wager we made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Plus I sent it to Sil last night and he said everything was fine. I also said I had a killer head ache and for you to send me a list of what you had classified everything as. I am still waiting. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I also said I had a killer head ache and for you to send me a list of what you had classified everything as. I am still waiting. :( Droids get headaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I also said I had a killer head ache and for you to send me a list of what you had classified everything as. I am still waiting. :( Sil I sent you that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Providence Destroyer -(Standard - 100%) = C 215,424 45 GR-75 medium transport -121,500 450 x-wings .-19,800 270 A Wings -16740 75 Miy'til - M 27 - (ST) = C 27-2036 1Strike cruiser(AT-AT configurations )- 40,500 Nova (New) - M 36,000 - (AD +30%) = C 46,800 4 Crusader Class Corvette- 30,000 23 Prowler-class reconnaissance vessel- 312*23=7200 Total-500,000 Edited December 3, 2015 by Jarons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Awesome carry cap??? With you slapping the MP on the Lucrehulk Freighter this now has >3x the Cargo per Cost than the Hardcell and 5.5x the Cargo per Size. Also don't forget that the Hardcell has literally nothing else: it's slow as crap, has just two dual laser cannons, no shields, a pretty significant weak spot that makes it a one-hit for any kind of missile turbolaser. I could agree with standard, but SOTA is definatly too much. And the Freighter has very little else other than carrying things as well. If it didn't have MP, it was be completely worthless. Even more so after looking at other ships like the Imperial Super Carrier/Transport/whateveritwascalled. And it kinda had to be SA because of its relatively low size for its carry capacity. It isn't just about the level of tech, but how it compares to other ships of its size in regards to the job it was meant to do. In this regard, the Hardcell does a pretty dang good job for a transport at its size. Side Note: Not quite sure why some of the crytal calcs are off by a bit... Though, going to see if I can't work through that list to find ones that need to be added, and check the others and such. Edited November 23, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Droids get headaches? In a droids case, it is a specific kind of virus. It really sucks. As for the list J, I never got it. The last thing in regards to it, was that you said you were working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Well prepare for the Galactic overlord Part 2 Providence Destroyer Passengers were converted to cargo: 810,000 more cargo Total Cargo: 860,000 Cargo space Used Cargo: 860,000 100 Shadow Order initiates 1,500 Spies 400 IG-100-2 (800) 8 Legion Commander-1 32 Officers-1 40 Battalion LT-1 66,000 Barc speeders. 12,000 tons of heavy Ammunition =4,000 additional heavy ordinates 200 AT-AA 60,000 1100 HAVw A6 Juggernaut-660000 25 SPHA-M 25 SPHA-C 25 SPHA-AV 75,000 2,500 Slicers -1 2,500 Investigator's- 1 500 interrogator -1 600 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry- 24,000 50 AT-AT 26,000 100 AT-ST 15,000 Vehicles pilots-1 300 T4-B Heavy tank-117000 1 Strikes medium Cruisers 340 Passengers-340 Analysis Complement- 5 AT-AT 10 AT-ST 6,000 Cargo space 20 AT-AA-300 10 Crusader Class Corvette 36,000 Tons 150 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry- 40=6000 5,000 Shadow infiltrator-0.5 5,000 counterIntelligence Agents-0.5 5,000 Shadow agents- 0.5 5,000 Shadow Scouts 0.5 5,000 Shadow Troopers-1 5,000 Barc Speeders-1 1000 Chameleon Droids-4,000 500 Counter Insurgents agents-1000 2000 Shadow order anarchist -2000 1,000 Analysis- 1 2,000 Tons of additional Light ammunition 45 GR-75 medium transport Cargo Space-838,000 300 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry- 12,000 500 AT-MP- 50,000 80,000 Shadow trooper -80,000 80,000 Shadow scouts - 40,000 80,000 Shadow support trooper -80,000 80,000 Squad leader -80,000 80,000 Shadow Heavy trooper-160,000 500 Nemesis-class gunship-6500 100 HAVw A6 Juggernaut-60000 100 T4-B Heavy tank -30000 1000 2-M Saber-Class Tank-50,000 800 TX-130T-56,000 25 AT-AT 13,000 50 AT-ST Consumables for 450,840 0.1=4508.4*15 days= 67,626 tons of supplies 15 additional Days 50 SPhA- 50,000 500 mechanics-1 ton Total 100 Shadow Initiates 400 IG-100 1,500 Spies 85,000 Shadow troopers 85,000 Shadow Scouts 80,000 Shadow support trooper 80,000 Squad leaders 80,000 Shadow Heavy trooper 5,000 Shadow infiltrator 5,000 counterintelligence Agents 5,000 Shadow agents 15,000 Vehicles pilots. 500 AT-MP 220 AT-AA 25 SPHA-M 25 SPHA-C 50 SPHA 25 SPHA-AV 1050 Amphibious interstellar Assault Transport/Infantry 160 AT-ST 80 AT-AT 500 Nemesis-class gunship 1200 HAVw A6 Juggernaut 400 T4-B Heavy tank 1000 2-M Saber-Class Tank 800 TX-130T 73,000 Barc Speeders 1,340 Analysis 500 mechanics 12,000 tons of heavy Ammunition =4,000 additional heavy ordinates 1000 Chameleon Droids 500 Counter Insurgents agents 2000 Shadow order anarchist 2,000 Tons of additional Light ammunition Legion Setup Legion- 50,010 1 commander 4 officers 4 brigades of 12,500 troops makes up a Legion 5 Battalions Lt. 5 Battalions of 2500 troops comprise a Brigade 1000 squads equal a Battalions 5 soldiers per squad 1 soldier 1 scout/sniper 1 support trooper 1 heavy trooper 1 squad leader Edited November 24, 2015 by Jarons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm going to wait to hear Sil's word on this before I alter my forces, though I've got to say either verdict is a positive for me. Seriously, I think you're going to win that wager we made. Did you every really think you would win?I told you beforehand you wouldn't stand a chance but don't worry I'll take you under my wing and together we will rule the Galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Did you every really think you would win?I told you beforehand you wouldn't stand a chance but don't worry I'll take you under my wing and together we will rule the Galaxy. For someone who might be an ally, you seem to have a lot of Amphibious Assault Vehicles..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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