tunewalker Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) You gonna join? We might be able to squeeze you in. I dont know if I have the time, and honestly I probably would get frustrated, knowing me I would pick some one like Leia, ???, and ??? probably largely NJO even though part of me would want to try to do a cross era team simply for diversity.... but would end up same era for synergy. But ya I havent even gotten back to Sil on a lot of hte conquest stuff.... Edit: just imagining Rebellion Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewie... but that might be to expensive.... depending on how much credit Rebellion Luke and then Leia are worth.... Reasons... cus why not, maybe add in R2 cus LAWLS.... Edited June 22, 2015 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Point is though he is lacking in Force ability, and can be ragdolled by the likes of Dooku, that puts him in the lightsaber combatant category which caps at 30. Really we should assume that a 30 credit Force-based or lightsaber combatant can only take on 30 crediters and below. The point is that they stomp in their respective category, but are weak in other respects. @Jarons, no specified date at this point. by should you mean "shouldnt" we SHOULDNT assume a 30 point force or lightsaber based combatant can only take 30 crediters and below. honestly that should be the case with EVERYTHING. Power is not the only decider in a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yeah edited it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) by should you mean "shouldnt" we SHOULDNT assume a 30 point force or lightsaber based combatant can only take 30 crediters and below. honestly that should be the case with EVERYTHING. Power is not the only decider in a fight. Exactly! Now, who wants to go against Jerec in a Force User History Trivia contest? Of both sides of the force, of course! (No banned characters allowed ) Side Note: Obi-wan Vs Jerec would be quite interesting now that I think about it... O.o A really good one that I would pay money to see though is Mace Windu vs Darth Vader in a lightsaber duel. No offensive powers. After Thought: Corran Horn, Kyp, and Satele I can see making a decent team, if they can all fit on the same team... Edited June 22, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Side Note: Obi-wan Vs Jerec would be quite interesting now that I think about it... O.o A really good one that I would pay money to see though is Mace Windu vs Darth Vader in a lightsaber duel. No offensive powers. Is that a challange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Is that a challange? Sil throw down the gauntlet will you pick it up and smack him with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Is that a challange? Sil throw down the gauntlet will you pick it up and smack him with it? Inquisitor Jerec vs Obi-wan or Darth Vader vs Mace Windu Any takers? Side Note: Yes, I know this is basically Team Silenceo Team Cs_Zoltan. Edited June 22, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Sounds neat, if there is still opportunity to participate I have a faction here. I have a preference for non-force users however I recognize that it won't exactly be easy to bring some of the big names here down... However I will attempt to try. - Durge (10) - Boba Fett (10) - Jaina (45) - Corran Horn (35) I might be over valuing Corran Horn in the eyes of many here (though I will by my arguments attempt to convince people otherwise) but it reaches 100 with this configuration so I figured I'd go with it. Now to those who want to try and point out the obvious issues here... Durge doesn't have convictions or morals but Jaina knows how to manipulate people who don't agree with her to fight for her and obviously she'll be giving him a chance to kill jedi/sith in droves so he'll enjoy that. She has an excellent mentor-student rapport with Boba and Corran will serve to keep her from going dark while she can convince Corran to tolerate Boba and Durge (he has had to tolerate worse honestly). I have put a lot of thought into how these characters would work together and I am comfortable that I'll have less issues with loyalty than most people around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Sounds neat, if there is still opportunity to participate I have a faction here. I have a preference for non-force users however I recognize that it won't exactly be easy to bring some of the big names here down... However I will attempt to try. - Durge (10) - Boba Fett (10) - Jaina (45) - Corran Horn (35) I might be over valuing Corran Horn in the eyes of many here (though I will by my arguments attempt to convince people otherwise) but it reaches 100 with this configuration so I figured I'd go with it. Now to those who want to try and point out the obvious issues here... Durge doesn't have convictions or morals but Jaina knows how to manipulate people who don't agree with her to fight for her and obviously she'll be giving him a chance to kill jedi/sith in droves so he'll enjoy that. She has an excellent mentor-student rapport with Boba and Corran will serve to keep her from going dark while she can convince Corran to tolerate Boba and Durge (he has had to tolerate worse honestly). I have put a lot of thought into how these characters would work together and I am comfortable that I'll have less issues with loyalty than most people around here. some may consider Corran a "saber specialist" and thus max him out at 30 do to his TK "weakness", though I personally agree with you his TK may be weak, but that hasnt made him a weak force user, because his other areas are pretty darn strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) I have put a lot of thought into how these characters would work together and I am comfortable that I'll have less issues with loyalty than most people around here. True, but Team Silenceo (Aka Imperial Fist) is one of the least likely to have loyalty issues in the midst of battle. Desann was quite the admirer of Jerec, and even joined up with the Empire as well as face down Kyle Katarn. The only issue they might have is between Jerec and Vader, but seeing how that has never (to my knowledge) actually led to blows or betrayals in the midst of combat before, not to mention they are both professionals, they should be fine. Yes, it was Jerec's ambition to usurp Vader. However, turning on him when facing any of these teams so far, would only hurt his chances of his ambitions. Essentially meaning he won't take the risk since it hurts his plans instead of helping them. As for your team Star, I have to agree with you. Corran and Jaina are a sure thing and help balance things out, and Boba I can see working quite well with them. If I recall, he even had a line or something in one of his books about never betraying an employer, though its been years, so might just have to rely on his Honor. As for Durge... Whatever nets him the most Jedi Kills. Fun fact: Jerec is likely one of the few force users present that is capable of dealing with Durge's ability to heal so rapidly, which is a pretty large part of why he was so dangerous to Jedi. My campaign for Jerec awareness isn't over yet. Edited June 23, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMudkip Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Kind of interested in joining. How many points would Cin drallig be? Is there enough info on Kao Cen Darach for him to be viable? Could use some pointers on light side force users if anyone has some. EDIT: would also like a point count for KOTOR Revan (lightside), hero of trython. I would also like to look into the possibility of a point reduction for satele shan from 30 to 25, don't really see her worth 30 points. Edited June 23, 2015 by ShadowMudkip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Kind of interested in joining. How many points would Cin drallig be? Is there enough info on Kao Cen Darach for him to be viable? Could use some pointers on light side force users if anyone has some. EDIT: would also like a point count for KOTOR Revan (lightside) Some Jedi that might interest you: Kyp Durron Qui-Gon Jinn Plo Koon Kyle Katarn Mara Jade Jolee Bindo Jorus C'baoth (Not to be confused with Joruus C'baoth, his evil clone) Some awesome non-Jedi: Pre Vizsla (Which should be 10, not 20... Why Beni?!) IG-88A IG-88C IG-88D (Team of IG-88's, with a strong force user anyone? Or convince other person to give up B... ) Canderous Ordo Skirata Han Solo (Luckiest man in the galaxy ) Just for fun, some interesting Dark Jedi: Joruus C'baoth (Not to be confused with the original, Jorus C'baoth) Maw (He flies!) Sora Bulq Lumiya Quinlan Vos Some of these are of course in the list in the OP, but meh, plenty of them are not. Hope it helps! Edited June 23, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Kind of interested in joining. How many points would Cin drallig be? 30 tops, probably less though. I'd say 20. Wait for an official word Is there enough info on Kao Cen Darach for him to be viable? Could use some pointers on light side force users if anyone has some. Looking at his respect thread, no. Browse through here for some lightsiders: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/star-wars-respect-threads-index-1683494/ EDIT:I would also like to look into the possibility of a point reduction for satele shan from 30 to 25, don't really see her worth 30 points. Nah, she's pretty damn powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Han Solo (Luckiest man in the galaxy ) I don't know...Leia wasn't that big of a catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 Sounds neat, if there is still opportunity to participate I have a faction here. I have a preference for non-force users however I recognize that it won't exactly be easy to bring some of the big names here down... However I will attempt to try. - Durge (10) - Boba Fett (10) - Jaina (45) - Corran Horn (35) I might be over valuing Corran Horn in the eyes of many here (though I will by my arguments attempt to convince people otherwise) but it reaches 100 with this configuration so I figured I'd go with it. Now to those who want to try and point out the obvious issues here... Durge doesn't have convictions or morals but Jaina knows how to manipulate people who don't agree with her to fight for her and obviously she'll be giving him a chance to kill jedi/sith in droves so he'll enjoy that. She has an excellent mentor-student rapport with Boba and Corran will serve to keep her from going dark while she can convince Corran to tolerate Boba and Durge (he has had to tolerate worse honestly). I have put a lot of thought into how these characters would work together and I am comfortable that I'll have less issues with loyalty than most people around here.I'm not well versed on Corran Horn and I think random had plans to take Durge. I'll confer with Aurbere and Sel on Corran when they are avaliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Team raandomname a.k.a. The Heralds of Death: Darth Malgus (40 credits) The Emperor's Wrath (30 credits) General Grievous (20 credits) Durge (10 credits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Malgus is taken. My apologies, but I needed to reconfigure my team. Malak and Bastila are available, though. Edited June 23, 2015 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Like anyone would want Malak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Like anyone would want Malak Sure, lol. Edited June 23, 2015 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMudkip Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Some Jedi that might interest you: Kyp Durron Qui-Gon Jinn Plo Koon Kyle Katarn Mara Jade Jolee Bindo Jorus C'baoth (Not to be confused with Joruus C'baoth, his evil clone) Some awesome non-Jedi: Pre Vizsla (Which should be 10, not 20... Why Beni?!) IG-88A IG-88C IG-88D (Team of IG-88's, with a strong force user anyone? Or convince other person to give up B... ) Canderous Ordo Skirata Han Solo (Luckiest man in the galaxy ) Just for fun, some interesting Dark Jedi: Joruus C'baoth (Not to be confused with the original, Jorus C'baoth) Maw (He flies!) Sora Bulq Lumiya Quinlan Vos Some of these are of course in the list in the OP, but meh, plenty of them are not. Hope it helps! i had considered plo koon, but im not really sure, lumiya would be a fun one for a darkside team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Like anyone would want Malak This is a strange matchup, but bare with me... What if Pic & Gorc Vs Darth Malak? Individual each of the 'twins' are much weaker than Malak, but together... Or another fun possibility. Jolee Bindo vs Sariss And Yes, I am trying to gauge peoples reactions to me referring to Jerec's Cadre of Dark Jedi. (To see how much I am going to have to entrench to get Jerec his respect Not saying either of those matchups are in favor of the Dark Jedi, but merely trying to get opinions on severity tbh. The Kaggath helped, most definitely. However, still a little farther to go. ) Side Note: I feel as if the point system could open up a bit, since there are force users less lethal than some of the non-force users being used such as Durge, but still have the minimum fee of 20. I mean, what if it wasn't limited by number but instead merely by credits? (Imagines a team of non-force users being possible. 4 IG-88's, Bossk, Boba Fett, Durge, HK-47, HK-51, and Jango Fett. Cue insanity.) Another question I have is, was the credit system used in the predecessor thread on the other forum, or was it made in this incarnation? Edited June 23, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 i had considered plo koon, but im not really sure, lumiya would be a fun one for a darkside team though. If you want to use Plo Koon, I would suggest you check out my Respect Thread for him. In the right hands, he can be placed pretty highly. http://www.comicvine.com/profile/aurbere/blog/plo-koon-respect-thread/103174/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I might be over valuing Corran Horn in the eyes of many here (though I will by my arguments attempt to convince people otherwise) but it reaches 100 with this configuration so I figured I'd go with it. Now to those who want to try and point out the obvious issues here... Durge doesn't have convictions or morals but Jaina knows how to manipulate people who don't agree with her to fight for her and obviously she'll be giving him a chance to kill jedi/sith in droves so he'll enjoy that. She has an excellent mentor-student rapport with Boba and Corran will serve to keep her from going dark while she can convince Corran to tolerate Boba and Durge (he has had to tolerate worse honestly). I have put a lot of thought into how these characters would work together and I am comfortable that I'll have less issues with loyalty than most people around here. I'd rate Corran at a 30, but I'm not sure it's a big enough difference to matter with your team I honestly think "loyalty" is the wrong word. There's really not going to be defectors here, unless someone say puts Savage on a team of Jedi, and is faced against Maul. No one's doing anything that bad Cohesion on the other hand, that's going to be crucial. People can begrudgingly fight together but they won't be anywhere near as effective. It's really a choice of picking the best singular combatants or people who'll fight well enough to compensate for a slightly inferior 1v1 duelling ability. For example, I believe Zannah or Nihl would have been slightly more effective than Talon, I could probably have found someone better than Wyyrlok too. Wyyrlok, Talon and Krayt however will fight phenomenally together and compliment each other perfectly. Neither choice is necessarily better than the other, but I prefer cohesion. It's why we valued Satele at a 30 instead of 25, if I remember correctly. As a raw combatant she's a 25 easily, close to a 30, but her Battle Meditation is unprecedented in terms of its effectiveness and could be a very valuable trump card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 If you want to use Plo Koon, I would suggest you check out my Respect Thread for him. In the right hands, he can be placed pretty highly. http://www.comicvine.com/profile/aurbere/blog/plo-koon-respect-thread/103174/ Not quite as good as Shaak Ti, but not everyone can be that amazing I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Not quite as good as Shaak Ti, but not everyone can be that amazing I guess You and your Ti fangirling. I remember when you pushed Ventress over Ti. Not so much anymore, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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