Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Also please don't tell me you're trying to say this ship has 3600 fighters. If so I might just slap the Viscount with about the same, since a military commander can forgo the extra space in favor of a larger complement, though he lacks the ability to repair Starfighters. That was going to be an argument but even I'm not that desperate as to say a 3-5km flagship has 3600 fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 That is a point, well this is turning into a real mess... On top of that I don't think the Bellator has any Octuples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Maybe I thought you meant this one... I specifically stated Praetor II, with link included in the PM's... Anyways, the past is the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 That is a point, well this is turning into a real mess... On top of that I don't think the Bellator has any Octuples. Confused about the second part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Half awake math! ACTIVATE! Octuples = 4 meaning 4x8=32 for TOTAL octuple firepower, not a single one, from 1 MK II. 32x5=160 heavy 50 x 5 = 250 turbo laser batteries I can not remember how many are in a battery anymore... So the equation for me right now would be A x 50 x 5 = 250A. Additional batteries 26 x 5 x A = 130A Heavy Ion cannons 20 x 5 = 100. Total weapons would be approximately: 510 + 380A = weapons If we count batteries as just another gun, then yes it is as you predicted. But I could have sworn that Batteries were more than a single gun... Even if it is merely 2, that would still put it over 1,000. But like I said earlier, I no longer care and just want the match to start.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I specifically stated Praetor II, with link included in the PM's... Anyways, the past is the past. Beni was right to deny it. Most of the information in terms of its prowess was added to Wookieepedia mid July, because the sourcebook only came out on the 1st... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I specifically stated Praetor II, with link included in the PM's... Anyways, the past is the past.Well my apologies, there must have been some miscommunication because that vessel is just fine, I would permit you to change for flagship to it if you wish.Beni was right to deny it. Most of the information in terms of its prowess was added to Wookieepedia mid July, because the sourcebook only came out on the 1st...Ah, that might explain that. Edited November 5, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Half awake math! ACTIVATE! Octuples = 4 meaning 4x8=32 for TOTAL octuple firepower, not a single one, from 1 MK II. 32x5=160 heavy 50 x 5 = 250 turbo laser batteries I can not remember how many are in a battery anymore... So the equation for me right now would be A x 50 x 5 = 250A. Additional batteries 26 x 5 x A = 130A Heavy Ion cannons 20 x 5 = 100. Total weapons would be approximately: 510 + 380A = weapons If we count batteries as just another gun, then yes it is as you predicted. But I could have sworn that Batteries were more than a single gun... Even if it is merely 2, that would still put it over 1,000. But like I said earlier, I no longer care and just want the match to start.... Batteries are 5 but I think that's just the Wookiee being dumb. I'll check mah sourcebooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Well my apologies, there must have been some miscommunication because that vessel is just fine, I would permit you to change for flagship to it if you wish. Dont feel bad, the messages were sent and decided a month before the source dictating it's weapons came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Well my apologies, there must have been some miscommunication because that vessel is just fine, I would permit you to change for flagship to it if you wish.Ah, that might explain that. *Raises eyebrow* What is the catch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Batteries are 5 but I think that's just the Wookiee being dumb. I'll check mah sourcebooks.Oh well i was operating under the assumption that batteries was just one gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Confused about the second part? Well I don't see any in the 3D image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Oh well i was operating under the assumption that batteries was just one gun. "In military organizations, an artillery battery is a unit of guns, mortars, rockets or missiles so grouped in order to facilitate better battlefield communication and command and control, as well as to provide dispersion for its constituent gunnery crews and their systems.[citation needed] The term is also used in a naval context to describe groups of guns on warships." We did the math a few months back, cross referencing about 50 sourcebooks we found the best standardised unit of a battery was 5 guns per, though certain guns like the Octuples only had 4 due to power outputs. I don't know what to say about the Imp, Starships of the Galaxy says 25 heavy Turbolasers. /LeSigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) If Batteries = 5, then for the Praetor II this would be the equivilent numbers Quad Heavy Turbolasers 300 (60 batteries) Twin Medium turbolasers 200 (40 batteries) Twin long range Ion cannon 50 (10 batteries) Twin Ion cannons 30 (regular) Heavy tractor beam emitters 10 weapon numbers wise, that would be well within the rules. Though due to the concentration of heavy firepower, it would still be quite the heavy hitter. More so than the Allegiance and 2 Vindicators and a few strikes/tartans it would cost... Edited November 5, 2014 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Well I don't see any in the 3D image. Well Rayla's source said it had 36 batteries. I don't know where it was from though, it was from the 3D designer? Not sure. When I looked it up I couldn't find it, must have been an interview you'd have to ask her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 510 + 380A = weapons if A = 5 then 510 + 380(5) = 2410 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 510 + 380A = weapons if A = 5 then 510 + 380(5) = 2410 Again I think that was just a Wookiee **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Again I think that was just a Wookiee **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 All this talk of flagships makes me want to change mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 All this talk of flagships makes me want to change mine. *Wave hand* You want to change it to the Tantive IV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Total weapons would be approximately: 510 + 380 = weapons Can we just role with it as this and start? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) "In military organizations, an artillery battery is a unit of guns, mortars, rockets or missiles so grouped in order to facilitate better battlefield communication and command and control, as well as to provide dispersion for its constituent gunnery crews and their systems.[citation needed] The term is also used in a naval context to describe groups of guns on warships." We did the math a few months back, cross referencing about 50 sourcebooks we found the best standardised unit of a battery was 5 guns per, though certain guns like the Octuples only had 4 due to power outputs. I don't know what to say about the Imp, Starships of the Galaxy says 25 heavy Turbolasers. /LeSighMost interesting, most interesting. I assume that with the IMP-I and II they meant cannons, which would appear more accurate. EDIT: And the site has decided to work for me now, yay. Edited November 5, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Can we just role with it as this and start? :/I hate to be a pain but what exactly is this? Edited November 5, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I hate to be a pain but what exactly is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I hate to be a pain but what exactly is this? Sil's calculations as to the Flagships's weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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