Silenceo Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 That's Sel's area. She has all the books, mine are rather outdated. Let me phrase it like this: In theory, how does the Providence match up to the Vindicator? *Completely unbiased reasons of course!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Let me phrase it like this: In theory, how does the Providence match up to the Vindicator? *Completely unbiased reasons of course!* It wins. Just kidding, I'm not sure. It probably does win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 It wins. Just kidding, I'm not sure. It probably does win. That kinda is my issue, that a light capital ship is able to 1 vs 1 a heavy capital ship and win. I know, quite bothersome for me to mention such things, I just think there shouldn't be that many ships beyond 1k classified as a heavy cruiser, seeing how many it carriers, as well as still decent armament. Though, one thing did occur to me, wouldn't the Lucrehulk bring the 10% reduction? I remember Allegiance size was standard sizes, *2k* and that Malevolence was -20% at 4k+ length. Wouldn't that put the Lucrehulk in the middle, with that odd 10% reduction that wasn't really discussed much since no one was using it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 That kinda is my issue, that a light capital ship is able to 1 vs 1 a heavy capital ship and win. I know, quite bothersome for me to mention such things, I just think there shouldn't be that many ships beyond 1k classified as a heavy cruiser, seeing how many it carriers, as well as still decent armament. Though, one thing did occur to me, wouldn't the Lucrehulk bring the 10% reduction? I remember Allegiance size was standard sizes, *2k* and that Malevolence was -20% at 4k+ length. Wouldn't that put the Lucrehulk in the middle, with that odd 10% reduction that wasn't really discussed much since no one was using it? Shhh... You're going to make me lose my new ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Shhh... You're going to make me lose my new ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Shut up! Shut up, shut up, shut up! If we stop now Beni won't notice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Shut up! Shut up, shut up, shut up! If we stop now Beni won't notice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 What did I just say? This droid is malfunctioning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) What did I just say? This droid is malfunctioning! I do believe you asked me to continue on so that Beni would notice. Edited November 30, 2014 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 OK so a point about the Providence. It does have less cannons than a Harrower, and the Venator does have three times the reactor output. But with those proton torpedo tubes don't drain much in the way of energy and perhaps tip the scales. Then there are also the flak guns to consider, and the accolades putting in on level with Star Destroyers. And now I look at the numbers, I'm pretty sure Aurbere could just steam roll us with superior firepower. So if we class the Providence as a Star Destroyer and swap its position with the Harrower that would give: Light Capital Ship: Harrower-class dreadnought [12] Heavy Capital Ship: Providence-class star destroyer [6] Flagship: Lucrehulk-class battleship Which is likely more balanced. Seem fair to everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 That kinda is my issue, that a light capital ship is able to 1 vs 1 a heavy capital ship and win. I know, quite bothersome for me to mention such things, I just think there shouldn't be that many ships beyond 1k classified as a heavy cruiser, seeing how many it carriers, as well as still decent armament. Though, one thing did occur to me, wouldn't the Lucrehulk bring the 10% reduction? I remember Allegiance size was standard sizes, *2k* and that Malevolence was -20% at 4k+ length. Wouldn't that put the Lucrehulk in the middle, with that odd 10% reduction that wasn't really discussed much since no one was using it?No, its a 10% increase if you choose a SD. The Lucrehulk is a battlecruiser and therefore standard size. And nope, nothing is redundant in my Kaggath. P.S. A dreadnought has to be over 5,000 in length, but the Malevolence is classed as one due to armament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 No, its a 10% increase if you choose a SD. The Lucrehulk is a battlecruiser and therefore standard size. And nope, nothing is redundant in my Kaggath. P.S. A dreadnought has to be over 5,000 in length, but the Malevolence is classed as one due to armament. The viscount is smaller and I still lost 10%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 The viscount is smaller and I still lost 10%?That might have been down to its armament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 That might have been down to its armament. This ship has 1500 fighters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 This ship has 1500 fighters...http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=7830368&postcount=335 Personally I'm not sure, because it doesn't have a particularly powerful armament, any one dreadnought should be able to destroy it without taking much damage, because most of its cannons are laser cannons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=7830368&postcount=335 Personally I'm not sure, because it doesn't have a particularly powerful armament, any one dreadnought should be able to destroy it without taking much damage, because most of its cannons are laser cannons. Ok, well IIRC everyone here had around 2000 fighters when Sil did the calculations. Given Aurbere's changes I count 2700. 1500 fighters would make such a large difference that I'm inclined to give it a -10, if not -20% reduction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Ok, well IIRC everyone here had around 2000 fighters when Sil did the calculations. Given Aurbere's changes I count 2700. 1500 fighters would make such a large difference that I'm inclined to give it a -10, if not -20% reduction...Only 2700? I think they'd have a bit more than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Only 2700? I think they'd have a bit more than that... 2700 without the flagship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 2700 without the flagship.Oh, I counted 3000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Oh, I counted 3000. 2988, yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Very well, I think a 10% reduction is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Man, my poor fleet got nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Man, my poor fleet got nerfed. Yup. No but really is still pretty powerful, just no longer OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Yup. No but really is still pretty powerful, just no longer OP. Alright, I guess I can deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Alright, I guess I can deal with it.Do you have a name for your flagship yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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