LadyKulvax Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I will simply go for the capital ship boost and drop my flagship, god help me. Though I do have over 4,000 Starfighters now, I hope that makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I think that merely demonstrates the inaccuracy of any figures we could devise. "Fitting armament" as you can see, is totally subjective. I can only suggest taking a smaller vessel, the rules are not really designed to permit colossal dreadnoughts. So no Mediator either? I want this to start I guess while were talking about this I might aswell ask. You said Black Market upgrades happen before the battle with Canino's forces. Does that mean Stealth generators could be fitted to the BT-Y's beforehand? They were designed to be upgradable and the Hutts have these, we saw so in Empire at war when Zann stole the tech from them. Also, Isotope-5 is meant to work as a near infinite source of Energy to boost reactor output, is it safe to assume the Viscount would receive this expensive upgrade in order to ensure Suriks survival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I will simply go for the capital ship boost and drop my flagship, god help me. Though I do have over 4,000 Starfighters now, I hope that makes a difference. Taking my biased hat off... I'd strongly advise against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 I will simply go for the capital ship boost and drop my flagship, god help me. Though I do have over 4,000 Starfighters now, I hope that makes a difference.I don't think the strength of half a dozen Venator's should be underestimated... we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Taking my biased hat off... I'd strongly advise against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I just cannot find anything that isn't banned or just lacks info, if I take a Mon Cal ship that is anything less than the Mediator-class I'll be smashed. If anyone has suggestions go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I just cannot find anything that isn't banned or just lacks info, if I take a Mon Cal ship that is anything less than the Mediator-class I'll be smashed. If anyone has suggestions go ahead.Well you could take a Star Destroyer like the Paellon-class. EDIT: Or alternatively the Imperious, which appears to be its successor. EDIT: In fact I would strong recommend that, as you would only lose 1 Acclamator as a result. Edited November 6, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I don't think the strength of half a dozen Venator's should be underestimated... we shall see. Good point, but I can just see the argument now: "The Viscount Prototype can take them all solo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Good point, but I can just see the argument now: "The Viscount Prototype can take them all solo"I'm not going to lie it could hold its own, but the Venator isn't just a warship, its a carrier. And therefore fighters have to be taken into account. And looking at your fighters they could do a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Well you could take a Star Destroyer like the Paellon-class. EDIT: Or alternatively the Imperious, which appears to be its successor. EDIT: In fact I would strong recommend that, as you would only lose 1 Acclamator as a result. Yeah but I'm not sure the firepower stacks up against 750 weapons, which btw is enormous for a ship that size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I'm not going to lie it could hold its own, but the Venator isn't just a warship, its a carrier. And therefore fighters have to be taken into account. And looking at your fighters they could do a lot of damage. Indeed. However my fleet has twice as many point defence guns and I have better pilots when you factor in spec ops... It'll be close no matter what Rayla chooses, but yes I'd stress she pick a hard hitter like the Imperious so as to not have an advantage like the fighters lose to point defense turrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Actually the Imperious will do just fine. Though I'm not sure about those Wookieepedia stats. Edited November 6, 2014 by LadyKulvax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Indeed. However my fleet has twice as many point defence guns and I have better pilots when you factor in spec ops... It'll be close no matter what Rayla chooses, but yes I'd stress she pick a hard hitter like the Imperious so as to not have an advantage like the fighters lose to point defense turrets.But in terms of fighters you are vastly outnumbered, we are talking 3 to 1. Bearing in mind that Rayla has Jedi Pilots, and I don't recall either SpecForces being fighter pilots themselves... regardless they are not the majority and it could be argued that Clones are the better pilots. And for its colossal size, the Viscount's point defense is not that great. Edited November 6, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Actually the Imperious will do just fine. Though I'm not sure about those Wookieepedia stats.Very well, that would give you the following: Light Capital Ship: Acclamator I-class assault ship [13] Heavy Capital Ship: Venator-class star destroyer [6] Flagship: Imperious-class star destroyer And batteries it would seem, represent a number of chain linked turbolaser cannons. Though in this case I doubt it is 5 per battery considering it supposedly has superior firepower to the Pellaeon-class. If need be we can use the difference between the IMP-I and the IMP-II to get a more accurate estimation, but significantly more powerful than the Pellaeon I think would suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 OK if all is said and done I shall get to posting this within the next few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Ok that's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Very well, that would give you the following: Light Capital Ship: Acclamator I-class assault ship [13] Heavy Capital Ship: Venator-class star destroyer [6] Flagship: Imperious-class star destroyer And batteries it would seem, represent a number of chain linked turbolaser cannons. Though in this case I doubt it is 5 per battery considering it supposedly has superior firepower to the Pellaeon-class. If need be we can use the difference between the IMP-I and the IMP-II to get a more accurate estimation, but significantly more powerful than the Pellaeon I think would suffice. Why 6 venators? I count 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) But in terms of fighters you are vastly outnumbered, we are talking 3 to 1. Bearing in mind that Rayla has Jedi Pilots, and I don't recall either SpecForces being fighter pilots themselves... regardless they are not the majority and it could be argued that Clones are the better pilots. And for its colossal size, the Viscount's point defense is not that great. So do I. And yes, Specforce had many infamous fighter wings, like Dagger wing. Also wedge. It's also only 2 to 1, even without the Cartel fleet. Edited November 6, 2014 by Selenial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Why 6 venators? I count 5.She gets a 10% increase from 5 because she chose a SD as her flagship, that's 0.5, in this case we round up giving 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) So do I. And yes, Specforce had many infamous fighter wings, like Dagger wing. Also wedge. It's also only 2 to 1, even without the Cartel fleet.Ah very well, well I think all this proves it that it will be a close match, and that these vessels don't exist in a vacuum. My calculations give her over 4,500 fighters... I may be mistaken but I don't see how. EDIT: I did them again, I count 5,295 fighters. My god, well played Lady. EDIT: Bearing in mind Lady has switched the Acclamator II for the Acclamator I-class. Edited November 6, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 OK if all is said and done I shall get to posting this within the next few hours. I'll be ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 EDIT: I did them again, I count 5,295 fighters. My god, well played Lady. <------ Only participant with any corvettes, and thankful for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 She gets a 10% increase from 5 because she chose a SD as her flagship, that's 0.5, in this case we round up giving 6. So she has just as many as if she hadn't picked a flagship.... Lolwut. Meh, I can work with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 So she has just as many as if she hadn't picked a flagship.... Lolwut. Meh, I can work with it.In this case yes, which is why I recommended it. It may seem unfair, but remember we are just dealing with an SD here, a few hundred metres larger than the Venators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Ah very well, well I think all this proves it that it will be a close match, and that these vessels don't exist in a vacuum. My calculations give her over 4,500 fighters... I may be mistaken but I don't see how. EDIT: I did them again, I count 5,295 fighters. My god, well played Lady. EDIT: Bearing in mind Lady has switched the Acclamator II for the Acclamator I-class. 4608, not sure where you went to school 1960 something for me, plus the Coruscanti underworld which would be minimum 500. My fleet has almost 400 more point defense turrets, wedge plays defensively and it's over, the enemy ships can't win in a ship to ship battle and the fighter advantage will be negated. But I have Many quotes and sources lined up that will make her regret picking an acclamator at all I am prepared to defend my throne Beni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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