Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) The mere conjuring of Lightning was enough though, given how matched Sidious and Talzin were. Plus he had a nexus to draw on. True enough, I suppose. Edit: There's still the issue of where she would stand. Where do you put her? Edited January 10, 2015 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 True enough, I suppose. Edit: There's still the issue of where she would stand. Where do you put her? Dont know, probably around 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Dont know, probably around 7. 7 sounds about right, especially when you have Yoda, Caedus and Vitiate to consider... I might even say 6 personally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 7 sounds about right, especially when you have Yoda, Caedus and Vitiate to consider... I might even say 6 personally... I was thinking Sith list 7, but now that I look at it, maybe higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I was thinking Sith list 7, but now that I look at it, maybe higher. I dont know, sounds like she could easily contend with people like Exar Kun, and Plageus for a spot on the main list. Also I dont think Star killer should be above Vader any more. Vader's preformance against the more powerful Second clone STILL Pre ANH and with the knowledge he would be much more powerful by RotJ. I honestly believe him easily more powerful then Star Killer by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Dont know, probably around 7. I'd put her higher, to be honest. Not sure where yet, but higher than 7, if you're referring to the Dark Siders list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Personally I still believe Vader to be more powerful than Talzin, and would therefore question her place in the Top 10. EDIT: OK so I see people are referring to the Sith List, I would agree with that. Edited January 10, 2015 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyltran Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Personally I still believe Vader to be more powerful than Talzin, and would therefore question her place in the Top 10. EDIT: OK so I see people are referring to the Sith List, I would agree with that. Why would she be lower than Vader? She fought Sidious pretty evenly. I don't think Vader can do that. Don't get me wrong. I know he's powerful but.. we've already stated why we think she's powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Why would she be lower than Vader? She fought Sidious pretty evenly. I don't think Vader can do that. Don't get me wrong. I know he's powerful but.. we've already stated why we think she's powerful.Well that's just it, I think he could. Not fight Sidious evenly mind, because that is not really what Talzin did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Well that's just it, I think he could. Not fight Sidious evenly mind, because that is not really what Talzin did. I suppose it depends on how you approach the Talzin/Sidious fight. She seemed to do pretty well for herself, though she wasn't as strong as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Personally I still believe Vader to be more powerful than Talzin, and would therefore question her place in the Top 10. EDIT: OK so I see people are referring to the Sith List, I would agree with that. She might be stronger then Vader, I just dont think she is THAT much stronger then Vader. Then again this is also Pre- RotS Sidious not the more powerful RotJ Sidious Vader would end up being 80% of... so its close. She might be stronger, but definately not much stronger in my opinion. But that's also to be said of Yoda to a degree who is "most powerful Jedi" pre Luke.... Re-examining my previous top 10 it might be 1 Luke 2 Sidious 3 Yoda 4 Vitiate or caedus 5 Vitiate or Caedus 6 Talzin 7 Vader 8 Exar Kun 9 Kyp Durron 10 Plaegus... But even that would in no way be final to me, looking at every one of these members is power, no doubt in my mind all of these guys are REALLY powerful, but a part of me DOES feel like I am missing Jedi on this list. Like Maybe Jaina, or Nomi, should be here. Maybe even revan... i am not sure, but I know, no matter what list people end up on. The people that make the lists... are TRULY powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I suppose it depends on how you approach the Talzin/Sidious fight. She seemed to do pretty well for herself, though she wasn't as strong as him. Also again dont forget time Period. This is Pre-RotS Sidious... RotJ Sidious (of whom Vader is 80% of) is much stronger. Vader MAY have been able to do just as well against THAT Sidious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Also again dont forget time Period. This is Pre-RotS Sidious... RotJ Sidious (of whom Vader is 80% of) is much stronger. Vader MAY have been able to do just as well against THAT Sidious. Son of Dathomir would have taken place very close to ROTS. Of course, it would be easier to determine that if TCW would post dates for their events () Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Son of Dathomir would have taken place very close to ROTS. Of course, it would be easier to determine that if TCW would post dates for their events () Still... RotS Sidious< RotJ Sidious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Still... RotS Sidious< RotJ Sidious... True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 She might be stronger then Vader, I just dont think she is THAT much stronger then Vader. Then again this is also Pre- RotS Sidious not the more powerful RotJ Sidious Vader would end up being 80% of... so its close. She might be stronger, but definately not much stronger in my opinion. But that's also to be said of Yoda to a degree who is "most powerful Jedi" pre Luke.... Re-examining my previous top 10 it might be 1 Luke 2 Sidious 3 Yoda 4 Vitiate or caedus 5 Vitiate or Caedus 6 Talzin 7 Vader 8 Exar Kun 9 Kyp Durron 10 Plaegus... But even that would in no way be final to me, looking at every one of these members is power, no doubt in my mind all of these guys are REALLY powerful, but a part of me DOES feel like I am missing Jedi on this list. Like Maybe Jaina, or Nomi, should be here. Maybe even revan... i am not sure, but I know, no matter what list people end up on. The people that make the lists... are TRULY powerful. Why is Plagueis rated so low, Tune? He should be at least above Exar Kun. Probably above Talzin and Vader, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Why is Plagueis rated so low, Tune? He should be at least above Exar Kun. Probably above Talzin and Vader, too. Mostly my lack of knowledge of his abilities. There is so much I dont know, I know he should be on the list but I dont want to go assuming he is stronger then powerful people like Vader or Talzin... or Exar Kun.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Mostly my lack of knowledge of his abilities. There is so much I dont know, I know he should be on the list but I dont want to go assuming he is stronger then powerful people like Vader or Talzin... or Exar Kun.... You can start here, I'll give you a full lowdown on his abilities if you need them. I like to consider myself very knowledgeable on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 You can start here, I'll give you a full lowdown on his abilities if you need them. I like to consider myself very knowledgeable on the subject. For Me I dont know if its enough honestly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 For Me I dont know if its enough honestly... I don't know what to tell you then. His displays during the Maladian attack are grossly superior to anything Kun and Vader have shown against non Force users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Thought you guys might enjoy the hypocrisy: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=607216&pagenumber=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 But even that would in no way be final to me, looking at every one of these members is power, no doubt in my mind all of these guys are REALLY powerful, but a part of me DOES feel like I am missing Jedi on this list. Like Maybe Jaina, or Nomi, should be here. Maybe even revan... i am not sure, but I know, no matter what list people end up on. The people that make the lists... are TRULY powerful. Seriously, what on earth do people find so Impressive about Nomi Sunrider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Thought you guys might enjoy the hypocrisy: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=607216&pagenumber=1 I'm getting a strong sense of butthurt. Sounds like something upset him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Seriously, what on earth do people find so Impressive about Nomi Sunrider? Mostly her comparison to Kun. She is weaker that's for sure, but how much I am not entirely sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Mostly her comparison to Kun. She is weaker that's for sure, but how much I am not entirely sure. What comparison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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