Valikusk Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Hey guys... So I'm new to parsing but I'm not new to my class. I've read and re-read rotations and tried to do different things here and there. I'm a sentinel watchman and I was wondering what in the hell I'm doing wrong. TORPARSE Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/570425/71/0/Damage+Dealt That fight is from TC HM 8 man last week. Only 930 dps.... needless to say I'm disappointed. I'm in 72's and 78's... and 2 piece ark armoring for bonus... my stats: STR: 2655 End: 2936 Primary: 1340-1567 Sec: 319-458 BOnus: 825.0 Acc: 99.94 crit: 21.76 crit mult: 67.45 Isn't that enough for HM TC gearwise? My rotation could be a LITTLE bit better, but I hardly think a PRECISE PERFECT TIMING rotation will net me 500+ dps or so.... EDIT: This is the correct parse from the fight and I am doing considerably more than 900... I'm at about 1764 http://www.torparse.com/a/570425/time/1391054752/1391055289/0/Damage+Dealt Edited January 30, 2014 by Valikusk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusFTW Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) READ THE LOG PROPERLY, The first 5 minutes of that log you weren't in combat with the boss fight and where doing 0 dps. It starts logging on TC when people start mashing down the generator thingys at the sides while waiting for people to come in.. then discuss tactics obviously in that case since it was 5 minutes+ before pulling etcetc. That is why your dps is so low 5+ minutes you where doing 0 because it didnt log from the start of the boss fight.. You are going to feel really derpy now.. Edited January 29, 2014 by AngusFTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 yea.. I pm'd emperor-norton and he said this is better representation of what I was doing: http://www.torparse.com/a/570425/time/1391054752/1391055289/0/Damage+Dealt So I feel a little bit better..... however, I can do a lot better than that for the gear I have.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucardess Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I'd try parsing on an Ops dummy, since that's a better representation of your dps than Golden Fury. Golden Fury is awful for Watchman, because you take breaks every 20-30 seconds or so. Also, I personally don't use Blade Storm, ever, in my Watchman rotation, since you gain 0 buffs to it, and it has 0 utility in the Watchman tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusFTW Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) well.. how do you have under 100% accuracy and only 67% surge, is this with companion affection buffs? do you have alacrity or tank stats on your gear somewhere.. get rid of that for a start. Also that fight is still a bit of a dps check in 8m. At the time of its launch it was up there with styrak hm for biggest dps check.. (obviously not now but.. ye..) Theres a reason most run it in 16 man.. because Its more faceroll and easily puggable. Edited January 30, 2014 by AngusFTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 I'd try parsing on an Ops dummy, since that's a better representation of your dps than Golden Fury. Golden Fury is awful for Watchman, because you take breaks every 20-30 seconds or so. Also, I personally don't use Blade Storm, ever, in my Watchman rotation, since you gain 0 buffs to it, and it has 0 utility in the Watchman tree. Hey, thanks for the tips! The only reason why i used bladestorm here is because of the breaks. I'll fire one off before heading back to the top of the stairs... But Macedonicus (emporor-norton) also gave me this advice of not using blade storm. well.. how do you have under 100% accuracy and only 67% surge, is this with companion affection buffs? do you have alacrity or tank stats on your gear somewhere.. get rid of that for a start. Also that fight is still a bit of a dps check in 8m. At the time of its launch it was up there with styrak hm for biggest dps check.. (obviously not now but.. ye..) Theres a reason most run it in 16 man.. Its faceroll and puggable. I'm having a hard time optimizing, ESPECIALLY with crap oriconian gears... And honestly, I'm not even in full 78's. I don't think I will optimize until I get to dread forged gears! BUT, if any sentinel could help me on The Harbinger server to optimize my gear for what I have currently, I'd appreciate it! You know, I never bothered with my companions... What is a companion buff? I'll end up googling it probably.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofalong Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 ... You know, I never bothered with my companions... What is a companion buff? I'll end up googling it probably.... Each type of companion - healer, rDPS, mDPS, rTank, mTank - offers a boost to a particular stat when you reach max affection with them. This can be seen in your legacy tab. For instance, as a Jedi Knight once you get max affection with Scrouge you will get +1% Accuracy. Rusk gives you +1% crit chance. Kira gives +1% Surge. These three will increase your DPS. FYI, the other two companions will boost your endurance and increase healing received so you should max them out as well. Please not, Treek, your ship droid and HK-51 do not offer these boosts. Also, this is legacy wide and the boosts do not stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Each type of companion - healer, rDPS, mDPS, rTank, mTank - offers a boost to a particular stat when you reach max affection with them. This can be seen in your legacy tab. For instance, as a Jedi Knight once you get max affection with Scrouge you will get +1% Accuracy. Rusk gives you +1% crit chance. Kira gives +1% Surge. These three will increase your DPS. FYI, the other two companions will boost your endurance and increase healing received so you should max them out as well. Please not, Treek, your ship droid and HK-51 do not offer these boosts. Also, this is legacy wide and the boosts do not stack. Thank you, I might just get a guide and do this tonight and get full companion affection. Is doc's quest bugged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 You have room for a ton more Cauterize. Aside from making sure you don't clip it after you proc it's reset, you should be using this every chance you get. I recently logged this fight and I activated Cauterize 28 times in a 331sec fight while you used it 34 times in a 537sec fight. So, I basically used it every 11.8 sec and you were at every 15.8sec which is higher than it's natural cooldown even. Granted mine was from a Story Mode if I remember right, but I'm pretty sure the pauses are the same duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucardess Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If anything, the pauses are faster, because the laser charge gets shorter and shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 I'll be parsing 5 minutes on a dummy today and I'll upload the results here... Thanks everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Here's my parse for tonight! http://www.torparse.com/a/572023/1/0/Damage+Dealt my rotations getting tighter but not nearly where I'd like it to be.. I need to use more merciless.. I guess there's a lot of cd to choose from and sometimes I can get crazy with the clickies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think you're Merciless usage was actually pretty good. You're cauterize still seems low. I had 37 in a 5min period and you were at 31. Maybe I got lucky procs, but that seems like a pretty wide gap. Also, you're APM is pretty low. Do you use ability queuing? I generally sit right around 44apm in Watchmen and your was just below 40, so I think you have quite a bit your leaving on the table there. Aside from that our parses were pretty similar. Your number would have been higher on the ship dummy with armor debuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think you're Merciless usage was actually pretty good. You're cauterize still seems low. I had 37 in a 5min period and you were at 31. Maybe I got lucky procs, but that seems like a pretty wide gap. Also, you're APM is pretty low. Do you use ability queuing? I generally sit right around 44apm in Watchmen and your was just below 40, so I think you have quite a bit your leaving on the table there. Aside from that our parses were pretty similar. Your number would have been higher on the ship dummy with armor debuff too. Well... here's the thing... If i press anything while Master strike is going, it interrupts it so I can't queue that.. That's the only time I don't do anything and that might be why my apm is under 39. What is armor debuff? Also.. didn't use an adrenal, but I did have a nano might stim thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Well... here's the thing... If i press anything while Master strike is going, it interrupts it so I can't queue that.. That's the only time I don't do anything and that might be why my apm is under 39. What is armor debuff? Also.. didn't use an adrenal, but I did have a nano might stim thingy I think you had a couple more MS than me but I don't think that would account for that big of a difference. Try parsing without MS just to see where you land. The armor debuff is an item you can buy from a legacy ship droid to put on your ship combat dummy. Both the ship droid and dummy are bought from he legacy menu. Most people that parse do so on their ship rather than the fleet dummies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) How many fillers (GCD) can I put in before cauterize finishes ticking? Edited January 31, 2014 by Valikusk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valikusk Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Should I use the 4 set bonus with arkanians or swith them to 78 armoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarid Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Should I use the 4 set bonus with arkanians or swith them to 78 armoring? General Rule of Thumb: Never break set bonuses unless transitioning to new set pieces. There are fringe cases where this can be ignored, but, for Sentinel, the bonuses are too good to drop - especially the four-piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta_V Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Easiest way to approach the sustained rotation (after reaching 4 Merciless stacks) for Watchman is to think of it as discrete 6 seconds blocks set up by Merciless Slash. You're goal is to be using Merciless Slash, Overload Saber, and Cauterize on cooldown (but do not use Cauterize sooner than 6 seconds after its previous use, or you clip the dot, and waste damage). The ideal rotation (assuming perfect resets of the Cauterize cooldown should look like this: Overload Saber + Merciless Slash - Cauterize - Filler - Filler - Merciless Slash - Cauterize - Filler - Filler - Overload Saber + Merciless Slash - Cauterize - Filler - Filler Following this pattern helps maximize the use of Cauterize, while always using it after Merciless Slash (which has a 6 second CD) eliminates the potential of clipping the DOT. Overload Saber might end up in a different slot in each window, but the principal remains the same - you should be activating OS in every other Merciless Slash window. For the fillers, your principal goal is to have enough Focus to use Merciless Slash, Cauterize, and Overload Saber when they are available. That means you need 7 Focus when it's just Merciless Slash and Cauterize, and 10 Focus when you need to use Overload Saber. Maximizing the uptime on your dots will make Focus management much easier, and one of the toughest parts of the spec is predicting how much Focus you will get from procs, which in turn dicates which abilities you use in your Filler slots. For instance, if you have 5 Focus and have both dots ticking on the target, you can afford to use Master Strike in place of both Fillers, and rely on procs to generate the 2 Focus you need for Merciless Slash and Cauterize. Only use Focus spenders in the filler spots if you have an excess of Focus and do not need to use Overload Saber in the next Merciless Slash rotation. Of course, you're not always gonna get the reset on the Cauterize proc, so you'll have to deviate from the above rotation. In those cases, it's usually safe to use Slash in its place, since it has the same net Focus cost, although it needs 3 Focus to activate instead of 2. This is also usually a good place to fit in Master Strike, since you will still have one more Filler spot for a Focus generator if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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