Aurbere Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Indeed, I see no reason why not... *suspicious look* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Wait doesn't Rayla have Death squadron because she has the imperial pilots.... just like I have Rouge Squadron because I have Rebel pilots.This is an interesting question. Just to clarify, Death Squadron isn't a fighter wing, its a fleet, which Aurbere has. Now the problem I see with Squadrons is that their skill is defined by their pilots, who themselves fill the roles of Leadership. So on that not I think I'll exclude them. Sure you can pop Vader in a fighter and give him an escort, or give Luke and Wedge fighters. But yah, you can't have the whole team and really I don't see any need. That was kind a trail of thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I guess I will make arguments why I would have at least pilots near of their caliber in those particular fighters preforming the roles that the Rouges did when we get to my fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 *suspicious look* *Whistles innocently* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Damnit I pissed him off again. No but seriously... at least give me a reason >.> I promise you I will lose against Rayla without the bonus, it's mainly the reason I'm fighting for Tune! I'll lose the fleet battle real bad, can't interdictor enough, and Malachor 5 won't do much against Talon and Krayt >.>I'm not angry, just stating the facts. This is an authoritarian dictatorship that you, my subjects, are all complicit in. I mean consider what would happen to my image if I gave you a reason, heck, even having this conversion with you know is tarnishing my reputation as a hardline, authoritative, socially and biologically superior being. I can't afford to consort with the rabble, try to understand. P.S. I'd say I'm joking, but that would diminish the fun, so I'll let you guess instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'm not angry, just stating the facts. This is an authoritarian dictatorship that you, my subjects, are all complicit in. I mean consider what would happen to my image if I gave you a reason, heck, even having this conversion with you know is tarnishing my reputation as a hardline, authoritative, socially and biologically superior being. I can't afford to consort with the rabble, try to understand. P.S. I'd say I'm joking, but that would diminish the fun, so I'll let you guess instead. Think again, Beni! Your dark influence will end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'm not angry, just stating the facts. This is an authoritarian dictatorship that you, my subjects, are all complicit in. I mean consider what would happen to my image if I gave you a reason, heck, even having this conversion with you know is tarnishing my reputation as a hardline, authoritative, socially and biologically superior being. I can't afford to consort with the rabble, try to understand. P.S. I'd say I'm joking, but that would diminish the fun, so I'll let you guess instead. I'm so kicking you out of the Traya fan club... Oh, And not telling me can't Be as fun as watching you trying to figure out if IM being sarcastic or not I expect the new numbers a few days before the Kaggath next time... Oh, and I'm off to bed, night all ('Cept Beni) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'm so kicking you out of the Traya fan club... Oh, And not telling me can't Be as fun as watching you trying to figure out if IM being sarcastic or not I expect the new numbers a few days before the Kaggath next time... Oh, and I'm off to bed, night all ('Cept Beni)I am the Traya fan club! Anyway, I'm too evil to care about your feelings... OK, OK, I'll stop. But I've got to indulge my immature/power-crazy side sometimes. Jeez. So how about this: you do as I say or else. Joking. So how about... ok that's going to end badly. Let's start again. Deep breathes. I can do this. Nope can't do it. Too evil. OK this is getting ridiculous now, seriously. But I can't stop laughing. I'm going to have a glass of water now... Brb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I am the Traya fan club! Not, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 OK, I'm back. I had a glass of water, I'm feeling saner now. I apologise for my recently behavior, it was unacceptable. But it part that deliciously unhealthy cherry bakewell I had was probably to blame. Sugar rushes, they happen. ...Wait, that water I had was actually squash... filled with sugar. OK I can feel the insanity creeping back in now so I'm going to make this brief: Here's the deal, recently I've been thinking that certain fleets are just too big. And factions just end up throwing around massive forces in a tiny area of space. It seems a bit silly. So before the next Kaggath I'm going to review everybody's fleet counts. Everyone is likely to experience a change. Most will be decreases, but within reason, and logically. In the process hopefully that will alleviate Selenial's concerns and altogether make the space battles more interesting. P.S. Your king is indeed insane as as his subjects should most certainly fear for you lives and your own sanity. And what ever you do, not matter how tasty they look, don't eat the cherry bakewells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 OK, I'm back. I had a glass of water, I'm feeling saner now. I apologise for my recently behavior, it was unacceptable. But it part that deliciously unhealthy cherry bakewell I had was probably to blame. Sugar rushes, they happen. ...Wait, that water I had was actually squash... filled with sugar. OK I can feel the insanity creeping back in now so I'm going to make this brief: Here's the deal, recently I've been thinking that certain fleets are just too big. And factions just end up throwing around massive forces in a tiny area of space. It seems a bit silly. So before the next Kaggath I'm going to review everybody's fleet counts. Everyone is likely to experience a change. Most will be decreases, but within reason, and logically. In the process hopefully that will alleviate Selenial's concerns and altogether make the space battles more interesting. P.S. Your king is indeed insane as as his subjects should most certainly fear for you lives and your own sanity. And what ever you do, not matter how tasty they look, don't eat the cherry bakewells. Honestly beni if you look at everyone's true fleet numbers you will find every one is 900 ships or better that have full on Major fleets while those that have minor fleets are in the 200-400 range. I think that's fair personally and in the next match Fleet numbers are going to be nearly meaningless because both myself and Rayla have a near Identical number of ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Honestly beni if you look at everyone's true fleet numbers you will find every one is 900 ships or better that have full on Major fleets while those that have minor fleets are in the 200-400 range. I think that's fair personally and in the next match Fleet numbers are going to be nearly meaningless because both myself and Rayla have a near Identical number of ships. That is an issue. Two minor fleets should equal a force that would oppose, or nearly manage to oppose a major fleet, not be 1/16th of the size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 That is an issue. Two minor fleets should equal a force that would oppose, or nearly manage to oppose a major fleet, not be 1/16th of the size. ya well yours needs an upgrade like I said the Minor fleets should total around 400 I think to make it bit more fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 ya well yours needs an upgrade like I said the Minor fleets should total around 400 I think to make it bit more fair. Ehh, I guess. Mines a bit of a different issue though, mine could actually be 400, 10,000 or 50, all there were enough ships for those numbers, just comes down to which beni lets me have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Funny story. I nearly got away with having the Open Circle Fleet at full force as a minor naval force, but Aurbere just happened to explain just how many ships it had :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Funny story. I nearly got away with having the Open Circle Fleet at full force as a minor naval force, but Aurbere just happened to explain just how many ships it had :L Well it would have been the same if you chose the Core fleet of that Era its just the Galactic Empire and the Clone Army had some of the largest fleets in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Well it would have been the same if you chose the Core fleet of that Era its just the Galactic Empire and the Clone Army had some of the largest fleets in existence. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Indeed. ultimately it was the reason those navies were banned. Edit: this talk of numbers is making me worry I am going to deal with nerfs when I was hoping for bringing the faction back to its full strength. Edited October 8, 2013 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I am guessing we are going to have to wait till tomorrow........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I don't see the need for nerfs. Maybe if it was a complete numerical stomp, but not for something like Tune vs. Rayla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I don't see the need for nerfs. Maybe if it was a complete numerical stomp, but not for something like Tune vs. Rayla. Mostly I am worried about my ground forces now because I am the only person who chose a Major ground military but as soon as the true numbers are revealed I have a feeling I am going to be limited to 1 Sector Force and 1 Spec Force division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Mostly I am worried about my ground forces now because I am the only person who chose a Major ground military but as soon as the true numbers are revealed I have a feeling I am going to be limited to 1 Sector Force and 1 Spec Force division. That would be disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 That would be disappointing. If you think that would be disappointing part of me is thinking the sector force wont even be the good one it will likely be one of the weaker Sector Forces rather then one of the stronger ones for sake of "fairness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 OK, I'm back. I had a glass of water, I'm feeling saner now. I apologise for my recently behavior, it was unacceptable. But it part that deliciously unhealthy cherry bakewell I had was probably to blame. Sugar rushes, they happen. ...Wait, that water I had was actually squash... filled with sugar. OK I can feel the insanity creeping back in now so I'm going to make this brief: Here's the deal, recently I've been thinking that certain fleets are just too big. And factions just end up throwing around massive forces in a tiny area of space. It seems a bit silly. So before the next Kaggath I'm going to review everybody's fleet counts. Everyone is likely to experience a change. Most will be decreases, but within reason, and logically. In the process hopefully that will alleviate Selenial's concerns and altogether make the space battles more interesting. P.S. Your king is indeed insane as as his subjects should most certainly fear for you lives and your own sanity. And what ever you do, not matter how tasty they look, don't eat the cherry bakewells. Well I'm certainly glad I missed Beni writing his imperial edicts across the walls in the forum goers' blood... That said I love the decrease of fleet sizes (cause, well... I always seem to be outnumbered) Anyway, I'm back guys. (or plan to be assuming school doesn't throw me a curve ball again) Has Beni said who fights next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Well I'm certainly glad I missed Beni writing his imperial edicts across the walls in the forum goers' blood... That said I love the decrease of fleet sizes (cause, well... I always seem to be outnumbered) Anyway, I'm back guys. (or plan to be assuming school doesn't throw me a curve ball again) Has Beni said who fights next? Its going to be me and Rayla in the losers bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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