watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I am aware that the War Hero and Battlemaster armor schematics were removed with update 2.0. Which update were they added with? Will these schematics ever be back or are they permanently gone? Please respond as soon as possible. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I think you can get them now, you just have to RE an existing piece. I liked the battlemaster agent one, minus the headpiece. Edited August 30, 2013 by ImpactHound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 I think you can get them now, you just have to RE an existing piece. I liked the battlemaster agent one, minus the headpiece. I already tried that. That doesn't work. Whenever I ask questions about schematics people say reverse engineer it. I am so sick of hearing that.Why do so many people think everyone can be learned by reverse engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I already tried that. That doesn't work. Whenever I ask questions about schematics people say reverse engineer it. I am so sick of hearing that.Why do so many people think everyone can be learned by reverse engineering? Because it could be at one point, I haven't tried anytime recently. They're still craftable so you can request one be made in fleet chat, but they still have a valor requirement to wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Because it could be at one point, I haven't tried anytime recently. They're still craftable so you can request one be made in fleet chat, but they still have a valor requirement to wear. This item could never be learned by reverse engineering. If a physical schematic for an item exists then it can not be learned by RE. For example: There is a physical item for a purple war hero's crystal schematic, therefore it can not be learned by RE. on the other hand a purple hawkeye schematic can be learned by RE because There is no schematic item that you can get for it, there fore it is learnable by RE. I hope that helps clear things up for you. I understand this game can be confusing at times. Edited August 30, 2013 by watermelonfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 This item could never be learned by reverse engineering. If a physical schematic for an item exists then it can not be learned by RE. For example: There is a physical item for a purple war hero's crystal schematic, therefore it can not be learned by RE. on the other hand a purple hawkeye schematic can be learned by RE because There is no schematic item that you can get for it, there fore it is learnable by RE. I hope that helps clear things up for you. I understand this game can be confusing at times. Tons, and I'll be a better player for it too. It's Great To Learn!™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Tons, and I'll be a better player for it too. It's Great To Learn!™ I never said no item could be learned by RE. I just said these specific ones can't be. If you think you know of any then please give examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 The only time it works is when there's a better version of that item to learn. If there is no better version of that item then it will not work assuming that a physical schematic item for it exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I never said no item could be learned by RE. I just said these specific ones can't be. If you think you know of any then please give examples. I was responding specifically to the line, "I hope that helps clear things up for you." <3 <3 <3 Let's kiss, I'm on POT5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 I was responding specifically to the line, "I hope that helps clear things up for you." <3 <3 <3 Let's kiss, I'm on POT5 WIll the schematics ever be back? Yes or no? If you don't know the answer then let me know. If you don't know the answer then you are wasting my time. I know that might sound harsh, but you are not helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 WIll the schematics ever be back? Yes or no? If you don't know the answer then let me know. If you don't know the answer then you are wasting my time. I know that might sound harsh, but you are not helping. Apparently I don't know, so I'm letting you know & I am wasting your time. I am helping by interacting with you and keeping your question visible though. Don't be such a doorknob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Apparently I don't know, so I'm letting you know & I am wasting your time. I am helping by interacting with you and keeping your question visible though. Don't be such a doorknob. Wow! That's pretty funny! I wish I had the sense of humor that you have. Edited August 30, 2013 by watermelonfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Wow! That's pretty funny! I wasn't trying to be, but if you enjoyed it I hope it helps carry you thru the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 I wasn't trying to be, but if you enjoyed it I hope it helps carry you thru the day. I wish the developers would give us more information about removed items and give us definite answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I wish the developers would give us more information about removed items and give us definite answers. Not until they feel it's appropriate to add a bunch of nostalgia items all at once. As long as they're missing, it makes the items more exclusive and desirable to collectors I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Not until they feel it's appropriate to add a bunch of nostalgia items all at once. As long as they're missing, it makes the items more exclusive and desirable to collectors I think. I'm currently trying to get them all. If I knew they were being removed, I would have bought them back when they were available. I occasionally see them on the gtn, but not very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I would post a request for them on your server forum, crafters with rare things check there for orders sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm worried I might never get all of them now. even with my 30 million credits I'm still having trouble getting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 I would post a request for them on your server forum, crafters with rare things check there for orders sometimes. How do I access the server forums? I have never seen them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactHound Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) The people who make them might not be idling in flee the same time as you, keep checking and rebroadcasting, they could respond at any time Server forums are http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=309 Edited August 30, 2013 by ImpactHound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malastare Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm currently trying to get them all. If I knew they were being removed, I would have bought them back when they were available. They were actually very clear when they were being removed that the schematics were going away and that it would be your last chance to get them. A decent number of people bought them in the final days specifically so they could sell the no-longer-available gear later. I'm one of those people. I have the schematics for Sentinels, Agents and Juggernauts. I have fulfilled a handlful of requests off of Fleet chat. I occasionally see them on the gtn, but not very often. Part of this is because they simply don't sell all that well. I try to list the Sentinel Battlemaster gear (chestpiece and legs, usually) once every week or so. Even then, I might wait two weeks for a sale. The chestpiece goes for 100-120k a piece with fairly cheap mats, but sometimes I have to re-list it five or six times before it sells. Meanwhile, I can list purple implants at 60k and sell them in a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 The people who make them might not be idling in flee the same time as you, keep checking and rebroadcasting, they could respond at any time Server forums are http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=309 I'll do that. Thank you for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 They were actually very clear when they were being removed that the schematics were going away and that it would be your last chance to get them. A decent number of people bought them in the final days specifically so they could sell the no-longer-available gear later. I'm one of those people. I have the schematics for Sentinels, Agents and Juggernauts. I have fulfilled a handlful of requests off of Fleet chat. Part of this is because they simply don't sell all that well. I try to list the Sentinel Battlemaster gear (chestpiece and legs, usually) once every week or so. Even then, I might wait two weeks for a sale. The chestpiece goes for 100-120k a piece with fairly cheap mats, but sometimes I have to re-list it five or six times before it sells. Meanwhile, I can list purple implants at 60k and sell them in a day or two. I never saw any warning about them being removed. Do you have any of those schematics in unbound form? I really want them. I want as many different kinds as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malastare Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I never saw any warning about them being removed. It was pretty public, actually. The patchnotes for 1.6.0 are here. I'll grant you, the patch note simply says: Battlemaster Items are no longer available for purchase. ... but that seems pretty clear. The forums were talking about it in the lead-up to 1.6, and the devs actually were clear that the Battlemaster vendors were disappearing. If the vendor is gone and there is no other statement about the stock moving somewhere else, the best assumption seems to be that the gear won't be available. Now, that requires people to actually read through all the patch notes or frequent the forum, however, I don't know how loudly people could complain if they choose to ignore the most official form of communication about game changes (the patch notes). Do you have any of those schematics in unbound form? I really want them. I want as many different kinds as possible. The schematics were BoP from a pack, I believe. That's the other reason you don't see more of them. Edited August 30, 2013 by Malastare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonfan Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 It was pretty public, actually. The patchnotes for 1.6.0 are here. I'll grant you, the patch note simply says: Battlemaster Items are no longer available for purchase. ... but that seems pretty clear. The forums were talking about it in the lead-up to 1.6, and the devs actually were clear that the Battlemaster vendors were disappearing. If the vendor is gone and there is no other statement about the stock moving somewhere else, the best assumption seems to be that the gear won't be available. Now, that requires people to actually read through all the patch notes or frequent the forum, however, I don't know how loudly people could complain if they choose to ignore the most official form of communication about game changes (the patch notes). I was also a new palyer back then. I didn't now about offical announcments. and patch notes are usually released once the servers are down. Once I see the patch notes its too late because the affect has already taken place. The schematics were BoP from a pack, I believe. That's the other reason you don't see more of them. from my understanding they bind from learning the schematics. In the past month I have gotten 2 full sets of battlemaster schematics from the gtn. I'm sure someone people still have unbound war hero and battlemaster schematics. I just got the battlemaster weaponmaster schematics yesterday from the gtn. Do you by any chance have any in unbound form? Please respond as soon as possible. Thanks in advacne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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