Theforceisours Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Ok so this is my question. In Star Wars canon, EU included, would a force user who wants to research the force with the goal of making tech that runs off it to give to masses be a Jedi or Sith? I lean toward Sith since they are the ones that see the Force as a tool while the Jedi see it as a living thing but curious what community would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Integrating Force and Technology into one was something Sith like Palpatine were interested in.... Sidious loved it, and he had the Head of Imperial Intelligence (Cronal) working on it often, and he gained the title of Monster Maker doing it, making a Kowakian monkey Lizard and a Gamorrean into Sith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sell-dog Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Darth Mekhis is another example of a Sith fusing the Force and Technology but I don't know how much "giving it to the masses" she was doing. In either the Darth Plagueis novel or one of the Bane novels it is mentioned that there are many Jedi that use the force as researchers. I don't know if "researchers" means fusing force and tech as you mention or what exactly they do as I don't remember the novel going into it. Anyone else know on this Jedi researchers thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Anyone else know on this Jedi researchers thing? Jedi Researchers employ their exceptional minds to solve theoretical problems and improve the quality of data in our Archives. Specialists among their ranks include mathematicians, hyperspatial physicists, astronomers, and biologists like the esteemed Master Bowspritz.- The Jedi Path Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I think the vast majority of times, it is a Sith/Dark Side approach to try to fuse the Force with technology. A couple Sith examples have already been given, and another big one is the Rakata's Star Forge and similar inventions, which were massive technological devices powered by the Dark Side. The Iron Knights come to mind for the Jedi, which were a group of crystalline life forms put into droid bodies, a Jedi master taught them about the Force and began training them as Jedi... and then the Jedi Council promptly excommunicated him for doing it. They Iron Knights were latter welcomed into Luke's reformed Jedi Order though, so I think this is an example of the old Jedi being mistaken and close-minded, rather than proof that fusing the Force and technology is inherently Dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I think the vast majority of times, it is a Sith/Dark Side approach to try to fuse the Force with technology. A couple Sith examples have already been given, and another big one is the Rakata's Star Forge and similar inventions, which were massive technological devices powered by the Dark Side. Initially the Star Forge was not powered by the Darkside, it was simply powered by the force, but the fact that it's users (the Rakata) were mostly darksiders corrupted it, which is a downside to any technology powered by the force. The Iron Knights come to mind for the Jedi, which were a group of crystalline life forms put into droid bodies, a Jedi master taught them about the Force and began training them as Jedi... and then the Jedi Council promptly excommunicated him for doing it. They Iron Knights were latter welcomed into Luke's reformed Jedi Order though, so I think this is an example of the old Jedi being mistaken and close-minded, rather than proof that fusing the Force and technology is inherently Dark. This is kind of typical for the Jedi, they are supposed to protect all life, but put living crystals into their lightsabers (Rainbow lightsaber crystals), and then reject an entire species just because they are not carbon based, I feel somewhere on their path of enlightenment they strayed quite badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntaroAdun Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The Jedi believe that the Force is created and sustained by the natural process of life. For them, the Force and nature are inextricably intermixed. As a result, the Jedi tend to shy away from mixing the Force with technological artifacts. This is not to say that the Jedi don't want to know more about the Force; after all, Knowledge is a major precept of the Jedi Code. But the Jedi want to know more about the Force as it is, not as they want it to be. Attempts to bend the Force to one's will through artifice is ultimately a path to the Dark Side. So, for the Jedi, there is a reason that the Force is only manifest to certain individuals, and not to others - that's just the nature of the Force. The role of a Jedi is to accept that nature, not try to change it. By comparison, the Sith are all about taking what they want - no limits. As a result, Sith tend to be more willing to try to manipulate the Force through artifice. If a Sith, for some reason, decided that he wanted to share Force sensitivity with others, that would be consistent. However, it's not clear why a Sith would want that, since Sith tend to be about maximizing power, not sharing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) The mix of technology and the force seems like one that is more often done by the dark side, but the dark side makes people selfish which would prevent them from sharing those technology with the masses for good. To be that open and good you cannot be dark side. That would make the answer probably a light sided Sith, light side for your intention but Sith for this out of the Box thinking. Edited August 30, 2013 by Drudenfusz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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