UjellyTrollicus Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 currently i've been rolling with a tactic/shield hybrid build, but i was wondering how assault fared compared to the other trees. it seems like going assault would be a pretty huge hit to survivability with the lack of ion cell, and general close range usefulness, but if the damage is good it may be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBadVoodoo Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 You can't enven imagine the DPS i got with assault Vanguard, it's just sick, and you have still tough survivability. try this : http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hzZMsZfIrbdMhMs.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRtFuL Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) As a rule of thumb, I don't think anything in the specs can kill a vanguard's survivability. Vanguard is tough by nature. The only way you can kill the vanguard's survivability is by doing something stupid like wearing light armor, lol Edited December 22, 2011 by aRtFuL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagdemagus Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 A rule of assault spec: if you don't have Ionic Accelerator, you're doing it wrong. That proc is KEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danapa Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) More than viable check this out (excuse my english im from spain and sorry for wall of text:o) http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/owned3o.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/ownedg.jpg/ im just lvl 23 and im always on the top 3 damage notice that i just died 2 times there and also topped kills aswell i have more screens in case someone thinks that it was lucky that game. Assault as a vanguard its my favourite so far and i have a lvl 33 commando aswell i tried all the talent trees even healer tank etc (yeah too much money on respects ) ,i know neither is lvl 50 yet and its not like i can say how are they at 50 im also not stating that assault its better and does more damage than the others or trying to make a endless debate with math numbers etc im just sharing my opinion and why i love this tree. Beign a class with half short range attacks and half long range attacks mixed with some melee ones its not easy to play you have worse dps than pure melees and pure ranged dps i think thats why there isnt so many assault vanguards out there,but i see that as an advantage instead of an inconvenience because you have some tools to kill and turn the tide of battle,i wanted to play a pure ranged vanguard but later realized that you have to use both melee and ranged to succes. vs melee classes i kite and cc em like any other ranged class in the game and any mmo till they are weakened enough for the dots and shots at 35% or below,and here is when the difference of beign an hybrid melee class in heavy armor comes in play instead of keep running for ever desperate for that cc to come out of cooldown i just turn back and finish em melee i think this will be even more effective later on when i have burnout talent and some decent pvp gear so ill be a tough one to kill add the talent reflexive shield and youll probably have the shield always ready...just in case,the hook its an awsome tool how many times that melee you were about to kill used force run to heal behind a column? No more! just hook him and finish the job that healbot saving his party on the back? hook! and let the jedi pack gank him that nasty BH spamming tracer missile covered by a group of 5? hook! and see how a bunch of melees jump on him.Vs ranged classes well they have superior firepower than you nothing to discuss here so what i do is dot and sticky grenade em then get out of their LOS if possible and specially if they are a turret style class then i cc em and load out all my shots when they get out of cc i just use that nasty hook because i have better melee attacks than them and my ranged attacks are all (but full auto) instant cast also it scares the hell out of them because they can just use 2 or 3 weak or with cd attacks while they move and pulls em out of they turret position yeah they will cc and or knockback you while returning to a safe position to keep spamming their attack for ever and ever but remember you are half ranged so by the point they got to safe they are almost dead.with classes with cover i just start with a cc and melee em and mostly short range attacks pulling him with the hook to prevent to get cover and keeping em at short range yeah youll get cced and probably owned the classes with cover are the most difficult for me yet. And that is all i know there are many situational fights where the way i described to kill someone its hardest or impossible and of course it doesnt work 100% of the time i was just trying to describe how i play with assault vanguard,and prove that this forgotten tree has a lot of potential and fun factor. Edited December 29, 2011 by Danapa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRabbit Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 You can't enven imagine the DPS i got with assault Vanguard, it's just sick, and you have still tough survivability. try this : http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hzZMsZfIrbdMhMs.1 No Ionic Accelerator, no Reflexive Shield, and no Degauss? How can you go with that many High Impact Bolt skills but not get Ionic Accelerator? What skill are you spamming in pvp to do damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Not 50 yet, but assault pvp is really really fun. Unless your looking to play in a support role Geuss ill be speccing something like; http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hZMsZfhMrzGGRs.1 input welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukakuu Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I recently hit 50 a few days ago and am now finding myself wanting to learn every aspect of the class/AC that I absolutely love. I leveled 1-50 as a Shield Specialist and can honestly say that I think currently Vangaurd tanks are the best tanks on the republic side (haven't played the imps and dont plan on it). One of my focuses while I leveled was PvP, I got Valor rank 30 2 games after I hit 50. Not insane hardcore but I love pvp and SS vanguards can literally control a warzone if you are smart. But being jealous of everybody in my guild being dps and watching how much faster they kill mobs so I decided to drop 350k on respecing and buying dps gear for my new Assault Specialist. I went against what I said I wouldn't do the entire time I was leveling and that was drop the shield generator for just a regular generator and focus on killing and not protecting. After my very first warzone match let me just say...I LOVE ***. SPEC...I don't have a screenshot for the final results but I was top damage with above 250k (never broke 150k as a tank) and I literally won every single 1v1 encounter I came upon and died only once because 3 imps focus fired. I'm not going to get into crazy details but I will say my spec is catered toward HiB and with green level gear from the AH I get 2.5-3k crits every 4-6 seconds bc of procs...norm hits are about 1.3-1.7k...I would highly recommend this severely underplayed AC spec, I love my burst damage and my strong resistance to incoming damage. The only negative side to this spec is that I've put a fair amount of time into looking up more information and I simply can't find anything on this spec and how to pvp spec/pve spec/do pve rotation and etc. Be a pioneer like me and start shooting fire and lightning while throwing a super powerful version of sticky grenade. It's untouched by noobs and the imps always under-estimate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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