SuperQ Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Annihilation hands down. let me start by saying I have played all 3 specs and originally thought Rage was best. I started as carnage and played that through about lvl 22. then switched to annihilation until about lvl 40. From 40 through first 2 weeks of being 50 I played rage. Switched to Annihilation last night, and the difference in damage both in pve and pvp is amazing. I liked rage. I felt that it played very similar to the old rec bomb paladin from wow, which was cool with me because I loved that class before they nerffed the spec, however I felt there was a little something missing. It was also very frustrating to set up the big smash and get knocked back at the same time i was about to cast it rendering it useless. Also for me constantly having to sit still to do force choke was leading to me being focused to death. In come the Annihilation spec, and from the first match I played I was dominant. Not dominant like I can take on 3 guys and kill them, but dominant so that 1v1 I am sure the other guy is going to die. Heavy armor, no problem. Healer no problem, knockback no problem, cc lol go ahead and cc me while my bleeds kill you, NO PROBLEM. This is what a Marauder should feel like, this is what a sith warrior should feel like...a pure death dealing machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobodygr Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Annihilation hands down. let me start by saying I have played all 3 specs and originally thought Rage was best. I started as carnage and played that through about lvl 22. then switched to annihilation until about lvl 40. From 40 through first 2 weeks of being 50 I played rage. Switched to Annihilation last night, and the difference in damage both in pve and pvp is amazing. I liked rage. I felt that it played very similar to the old rec bomb paladin from wow, which was cool with me because I loved that class before they nerffed the spec, however I felt there was a little something missing. It was also very frustrating to set up the big smash and get knocked back at the same time i was about to cast it rendering it useless. Also for me constantly having to sit still to do force choke was leading to me being focused to death. In come the Annihilation spec, and from the first match I played I was dominant. Not dominant like I can take on 3 guys and kill them, but dominant so that 1v1 I am sure the other guy is going to die. Heavy armor, no problem. Healer no problem, knockback no problem, cc lol go ahead and cc me while my bleeds kill you, NO PROBLEM. This is what a Marauder should feel like, this is what a sith warrior should feel like...a pure death dealing machine. dots and death dealing machine dont go together xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperQ Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 dots and death dealing machine dont go together xD oh I burst hard too. if they arn't dead after the initial charge, battering assault, deadly saber, rupture, annihilate, vicious throw, the dots will get em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebzato Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Could you post your talent sheet please? I'd like to see what you are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviscerater Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 So the OP is saying that the best PvP spec hands down is Anni and he quit playing Carnage at lvl 22. Has no evidence to back up his claims other than personal preference. You lost all credability right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperQ Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 So the OP is saying that the best PvP spec hands down is Anni and he quit playing Carnage at lvl 22. Has no evidence to back up his claims other than personal preference. You lost all credability right there. sorry. from what i have seen and read carnage was never in the running. All say it's ok, but need a buff. I am running the 31/7/3 carnage could work ok, but i think u need the bleeds, and crits from bleeds to totally demolish the heavy armor wearers and healers. Another reason i like annihilation as i have stated is because u don't have to root yourself with any ability that has a cast bar. so you can keep moving fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperQ Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 i use a variation of the build that's posted in the guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperQ Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 So the OP is saying that the best PvP spec hands down is Anni and he quit playing Carnage at lvl 22. Has no evidence to back up his claims other than personal preference. You lost all credability right there. look i am not trying to argue with you, simple point, try all three, spec the build that's sticky right here in our forum (the annihilation build) and then try carnage and rage, and tell me if you don't notice an immediate difference. if you don't want more pvp wins, stick to rage, or carnage, but if your like me and you want to win, annihilation is the way to go right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoBlue Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 dots and death dealing machine dont go together xD You never saw my Shadow Priest on WoW then because that's exactly what it was. 2-3 DoTs, passive healing, bubble, and some burst damage.......unstoppable, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashHorizonis Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 You should probably watch Stump's stream when he's running 13/15/13 build. Granted, you need to be at his gear level for it to work, imo, but that spec dominates hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atreyuz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 You should probably watch Stump's stream when he's running 13/15/13 build. Granted, you need to be at his gear level for it to work, imo, but that spec dominates hard. 13/15/13? Could work... ... against clueless people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiiC Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 13/15/13? Could work... ... against clueless people. I guess you have never watched his stream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkraid Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It's hard to watch streams when I enjoy playing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizbug Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 How about posting what this spec is exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atreyuz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I guess you have never watched his stream... I didnt, and Im quite sure he is killing people with that spec if you are saying so. But then again you dont need any sort of decent spec to kill clueless people. Because that spec is preccy much LoL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkraid Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 hey guys...my spec is 0/0/0. I kill everything in my path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averji Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 **** annihilation its all about rage for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasymodeX Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) 13/15/13 looks like an Ataru form spec trying to maximize mobility, while maintaining respectable damage with Rupture + DS, and otherwise spamming the hell out of VS. Weaknesses: Lack of any utility apart from the mobility, low durability. Strengths: V. high mobility. Basically you can chase anything in the game, hard. Mechanics synergies: Possible Ataru spamprocrate from Rupture + DS ticks. Deficient from no ARPEN capability, but the bleeds help mitigate this a little. Sidenote: don't use Scream in this spec. Seems like a very poor spec for smashing down a healer. Also bad for AOE. The raw mobility would be fun to play though. Edit: It's like a less-bad version of a 32 Carnage spec. You lose the roots, crit damage, usable Scream, and a reliable Ataru, but you gain Deadly Saber, faster leap, Obliterate (which is > VS), and a more potent VS. Basically if you take a 32 Carn spec and drop Massacre for Deadly Saber, then you lose most of the purpose of being deep into Carnage (also considering Gore's overall weakness). Which means you start to continuously shave points out of Carn until you result in a build similar to 13/15/13. Edited February 6, 2012 by EasymodeX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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