Tom_Joad Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) This is an offshoot of my question: Marauder, by the numbers?. I realize the sample size is small, and it is prone to human error, but, for now, this really is the best we have in which we are not theory crafting with a spreadsheet. Spreadsheets are fine, but in-game results do not lie. Objective:Try and kill the same mob (control) with different specs to try and see what the best DPS is, in order to see if we are (1) broken, (2) realistic numbers in terms of dps, and (3) is this what the devs wanted? I came up with dps numbers by using fraps to pinpoint the second in which the fight started (the first hit) to the killing blow. Republic Stealth Commander (Elite), from the Belsavis Daily in which you kill 10 regs. and 2 elite mobs. HP: 32,500 EliteFound at: -810, 2420 on Belsavis Rage Spec (dps):878, 955, 984, 1048, 1083Avg: 989.6Exclude lowest (seems to be too low): 1017.5 Annihilation Spec (dps):984, 1015, 1048, 1083, 1300 (Annihilate reset rupture so got to use it again)Avg: 1086Exclude highest (seems to be too high): 1032.5 Carnage SpecDPS (fight): 769(4), 929(1), 940(5), 1020(6), 816 (7)Notes:1. Died all fights2. Didnt record fight 2 & 33. Fight 5 had 2 rage left from last fight4. Fight 6 only lasted 15 seconds because additional aggro pulled 769(4), 929(1), 940(5), 1020(6), 816 (7) The rage spec is from Zandermill's Marauder Q&A - DPS and you. To include the rotation. Sometimes, the 3 & 4 is interchanged with the 4&5 in the rotation. The Annihilation Spec is http://i42.tinypic.com/5e70k5.jpg. Rotation is Force Charge > Deadly Saber > Battering Assault > Ravage > Annihilate. Then whatever to maximize dps. Berserk was used at least once in every fight, and I tried to make sure there was no fury build up before entering any fight. Stats/Gear: http://i39.tinypic.com/r2rpk4.jpg As you can see, I am fairly well geared for pve. I have 3 columni pieces, EV offhand, class-specific relic, columni bracers (not counted towards bonus for whatever reason), I have daily purples in everything orange, and Columni purples in my chest peice (lvl 56, columni boots dropped again for me, so I extracted the mods), and rakata earpiece. Discussion/Results:While it was only 5 fights each, Annihilation is winning, by far when you do pure averages. While Annihilation's high seems too high, and Rage's low seems too low, those were actual in-game results (whether they resulted from human error or not is another story). That said, i would rather have an outlier that is too high than one is too low. Perhaps this just means that Annihilation is more forgiving (which would, ultimately, make it higher average dps for most everyone). Tomorrow, I hope to update this thread with Carnage spec as well. The reason I chose one mob to do this on, is because it would at least keep things in a somewhat controlled environment. I had a guild-mate tell me his dps dropped by 500 points (he is a sith assassin) while fighting this mob vs others he was dpsing. **NOTE** This was a 1v1 fight with the Elite. While broonmark can be seen in the pictures, he was on passive mode the whole time so he could not attack. This is pure marauder v. the mob. No heals were ever used in order to maximize dps. Updated Discussion/ResultsAs you can see, in my testing Annihilation won. Carnage spec and rotation/rotation priority was taken directly from the sticky at the top of the forum. I should say that I am least familiar with Carnage as a spec. I only played it up to lvl 25, then went Annih until about a week into 50 and then was Rage for ~2 weeks. When I switched from Annih to Rage, I thought Rage was doing better, but at least in my testing, Annih came out on top. It would be interesting to see other people do the same or similar test. The DPS may not match, due to gear and/or skill, but I would like to at least see if the order is the same. Edited January 19, 2012 by Tom_Joad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WokeSmeed Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Waiting for Carnage numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampagingike Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 You should prob rupture before the ravage to let it tick in preparation for a reset when you annihilate. just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReFlexionn Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Ah ha! I knew my build was sexy! ps: HOW MUCH ACCURACY U HAVE op? CUZ IM THINGING ABOUT GETTING THAT 15% CRIT VICIOUS, IF MY ACCURACY IS HIGH ENOUGH, IF NOT THEN I'LL GET THAT 3% ACCURACY PPS: a crap i typed in caps Edited January 18, 2012 by ReFlexionn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanzel Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It's no small wonder your Rage damage was behind annihilation if you were using the spec from that guide you linked. Narrowed Hatred's alright, but if you can make up the hit rating with gear that build absolutely must have Enraged Slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_Joad Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I updated the thread, and Annih is the clear winner from my testing. That said, I would like to see what other people get, or, hell, even other classes. However, it would be hard to directly compare results due to differences in gear and rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReFlexionn Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) saw the accuracy..looks like it's all good Edited January 19, 2012 by ReFlexionn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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