Tortoises
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Whoever put that annoying droid on the ship obviously didn't want people to be on their ships very much. The purpose is to annoy you away from it.
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While were at it, why not have PvP planets and RvR that lets us use companions?
If any of you have ever played Mount&Blade:By Fire and Sword, there is a game option where you are the leader of a squad of AI and you can customize their gear and weapons and troop type and then lead them against other players of the same thing.
It makes it into a massive war and it takes skill and squad commands to be good at.
Why not let us do this in PvP in Star Wars? You would finally be adding that RTS factor into it, I think it would be a lot of fun anyway.
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thanks a lot
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We need Server Forums and one thing that is very much needed are Server Transfers.
People may decide they do not like the server they are on for many reasons and wish to transfer to another. This will help even out population as well, it has never been a problem with other MMO's that have utilized this in the past.
Have they said anything about this at all? I cannot find anything.
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Has there been any talk of eventually giving us Server Transfers from Bioware?
I really hope we get them.
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+1 For some kind of performance metrics.
Performance Plans soon to follow.
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Actually both the Dakotas are considered part of the Midwest. Acording to the US Census, run by the Federal Government, the Dakotas are part of the Midwest.
they arent considered that by us Midwesterners.
I live in Illinois and I only consider Wisconsin, Iowa, Indiana, Missouri and Michigan to be the Midwest and I guarantee most of us feel the same.
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No it is not.
I do not understand how this can be so hard for you to get.
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Exactly, I do not understand why this is so hard.
I said earlier that people in the city with Comcast or AT&T are going to blast through the rates with 25 mb connections, guess what, most of the MIDWEST does not have those connection speeds to not notice it.
Most of us have much lower connection speeds. We do not share information properly to Virginia or California as we would if we had a Chicago or Dallas Hub, or better yet, BOTH!
Anyone arguing against this is lazy and doesn't want Bioware to succeed. Almost every single Multiplayer game has a major Dallas AND Chicago hub servers as well as their east and west coast.
Anyone arguing against it either has an agenda or is a lazy fool. It will only help us gamers.
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You really need to look at a map some time. South Dakota shares a border with Minnesota and Iowa. I would benifit from a server in Chicago since it would be closer than the east coast servers. However, it is not worth the investment for BW to spend the money to give me a slightly lower ping, when 80ish is acceptable.
South Dakota and North Dakota are not considered to be the "Midwest"
You shouldnt try and argue this stuff to someone who lives in Midwest. I know what my Region is.
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No.
...because his friends would still be on the West Coast server. You do understand this, right? Putting servers in the Midwest wouldn't give people in the Midwest faster access to the servers that the West Coast people are playing on. It would create a new set of servers that would primarily be inhabited by Midwest people.
Sadly, since the midwest doesn't have nearly the population density of the East or West Coasts, the servers would be doomed to low populations, with most people in the Midwest opting to connect to one of the Coasts, since one of the two is going to have latency that is only slightly higher and still not really noticeable.
Well I don't suppose I mean "servers" as much as I mean a "hub"
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Maybe my geography is off, but last I checked Oklahoma was directly north of Texas, where you want to put these midwest servers.
Aside from the argumentative Herp Derp who posted above you, I didn't say anything about how we are closer. Closer doesn't mean better.
When I install your internet, being within 100 feet of the VRAD is actually a bad thing, and we start looking for ways to put resistance on it.
Of course the herp derp who posted above you have absolutely no idea what the physical network is.
But I really didn't make this thread to just argue and banter with herp derps, its a thread meant to give Bioware an idea that the Midwest needs servers. Connecting East and West is bad.
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I, for one, play on an east cost server but live in Utah. Yea you read that right. I live in Utah and play on an east coast server.
Why? You ask.
Due to most of my gamer friends being from the east coast and that is the server they have chosen.
So make new friends on the west coast servers.
I could do that I suppose. But at the sacrifice of not being able to play with my gaming connections I have been connected with for years. Some I have played with since the good ol' UO days. And of course some of the new connections I have made while playing SWtOR.
This is the real reason I play any MMO, for the connections I have made over the weeks/years of playing different MMO's.
AND.... Bioware adding Midwest server support would make your connection a lot better!!
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I live in the midwest in a very small town in South Dakota. East coast is 60-80ms and West coast is 70-90ms. No need to spend the money for an extra set of servers for the midwest.
also the Dakotas really arent the "midwest"
The states I speak of are Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa, Indiana, Missouri, Minnesota, Michigan, Kentucky
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I live in the midwest in a very small town in South Dakota. East coast is 60-80ms and West coast is 70-90ms. No need to spend the money for an extra set of servers for the midwest.
Did you get paid to say that just now?
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Midwest gamers connect to Chicago or Texas for most games to get the best latency.
What we need are constructive ideas on how we can get a server bank in the midwest for SWTOR players.
For Midwestern SWTOR Players. Anything aside from discussion about how this can be made possible, is nothing less than a discussion about how you can further alienate midwestern gamers who don't live in hub cities.
This is quite a bit of people.
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I don't know if its Gods sense of irony for me personally, but I fix peoples internet all day long and I have to come home and troubleshoot mine. But I have never had the problems with any game or twitch.tv, I watched the superbowl without a hitch earlier on nbc.com and all of it. I played WoW and I can run BF3 and all of it. But if I play SWTOR I disconnect, disconnect, disconnect.
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So, how would a server in Texas help with that?
If you want to play with your guild: Then suck it up and deal with your ISPs crappy west coast connection.
If you want to play on a faster server: Connect to the East Coast.
I still don't understand why you're arguing for a new server farm that is farther away from you than the East Coast servers.
Its partially the ISP but it is also SWTOR. The DNS isn't setup properly, people who are blazing 25mb connections wont notice it for the most part.
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that depends on how its set up and what ISP and DNS it flows through obviously, but most Midwest gamers connect to either Chicago or Texas, its a well known fact.
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Quit trying to be purposefully ignorant.
Why in the world would you pick a West Coast server? Of course you're going to have a higher latency to Southern California. Why in the world would you pick West Coast over East Coast? You're closer to the East Coast servers than most of the people in the South. You're about at far away as Atlanta. Find a map, already. See that huge collection of lines running from Chicago to the NY/Philly/Baltimore/DC corridor? Loads of Internet lines run along those roads/rails.
Compare that to all the roads heading directly from Chicago to LA.
No, it's because you haven't put a moment of (intelligent) thought into which servers to connect to.
Maybe its because my guild is on that server? Hmm since you are a guru and since we all pay a subscription, maybe you can magic me up some servers in Texas or in Chicago?
I heard there are a lot of gamers in Chicago and Texas. In fact, I heard Bioware was in Austin, Texas.
Say, maybe you can help me?
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In otherwords...
"Stop using facts to get in the way of my suggestion."
Look, lots of us in the Midwest get ping times just fine as is, there is no reason to create even more servers then we have now. Servers in Texas or Chicago would not improve the ping time for a lot of the people who posted in this thread, myself included.
I read that as " We don't want to afford it, we are lazy"
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Where are the packets being dropped? Sounds like you're crossing a bad ISP, and if that's the case (again) it doesn't matter where the servers are. "Going west" doesn't cause packet loss.
Yet I can run any other game fine or stream video fine and not have the problem?
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In any case, back on the OP's point, it's about 1,100 miles to Austin from Chicago, and about 700 miles to Reston, VA. Those are driving distances, not a straight line, so I can't imagine the mountains he was talking about effecting latency much (since packets don't get altitude sickness).
Virginia's just closer than Texas to Chicago no matter how you look at it.
Regardless, we all connect better to Texas than we do to any other hub. Anyone from the Midwest will tell you the same thing.
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can you post a screen shot in the game for us to show us that ping? Considering other people in the Mid West are stating less then 100ms, I'm having a hard time believing you. And if you are disconnecting frequently, them adding servers to Texas won't help with that, cause even at 200ms you shouldn't be disconnecting, that is your ISP problem, possibly a problem on your end.
No it isn't Per one other users advice I downloaded and use Pingplotter.
What I am seeing is a bad flow of packets between my ISP and SWTOR.
Its being very badly handled and dropped as it goes west.
We need servers in the midwest.
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Funny, seems everyone in this thread thinks they are some type of networking guru, bet most can't even state what the OSI Layers are from 1 - 7 without looking them up. Internet is not the problem here it's the network, internet is just a bunch of protocols in the layer 4 environment such as TCP, UDP, TFTP,FTP,SNMP,IGMP,HTTP, HTTPS, SSH, etc.
To understand how a network really works you have to understand how the different layers operate with one another. For instance, distance while a problem is not that big of one, the problem comes with the amount of HOPS it takes to get to a particular destination, the more hops the more delay hence more latency. You can live 5 miles from a server farm and still have bad latency if your ISP routing tables suck.
Quit trying to sound smart and agree that we need servers in Texas or Chicago or at least one Midwest state. Currently we are all connecting to California and my ISP hates that, the packets are losing themselves between Chicago and LA.
It has to do with the packets, I am losing too much data between my origin and where the data ends up. This is causing me to disconnect. Its because SWTOR doesn't have their crap set up properly. They need to set up servers in Texas or Chicago. This will help facilitate their date between the East and the West Coasts.
shut up butler droid or I'll unsub
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