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Cool story,
bro.
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Which aren't available in Europe.
In any case, I'm arguing FOR not changing the emergency pass system in favour of making the normal fleet passes more widely available.
I grant that security key owners might feel a little aggrieved. Maybe they could give something more interestng to the security key vendors?
You can access to the Key vendor in Europe by installing the iPhone app.
And I don't really care about all the traveling.
Back in LOTRO, there are so many teleport skills to so many places...
You no longer have to bother running anywhere.
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I have a few questions for those who have read the EU.
Please, enlighten me.
- Why does Sidious kill his master in his sleep if he was so powerful?
- If Sidious can change bodies and create worm holes, why does he die tossed by Vader?
- If Sidious can create wormholes to consume entire planets, why does he bother creating the Death Stars (twice at least) ?
- I've seen people saying Yoda/Luke were the strongest Jedis ever. But then again, none of them defeated Sidious in a duel. Does this means Siths > Jedis ?
Thanks.
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UI Customization...
Yay!
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I still don't get why my light sided Sith isn't considered a traitor by the rest of the Siths.
Shouldn't they notice the light side of the Force surrounds me and hunt me down?
Makes no sense to be honest.
Like it makes no sense that my so powerful lightning shooter Sith can't even do a simple Force Push...
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And the best part of it...the final battle and the death of the most powerfull sith of all time..Vader lifts him up on his arms and drops him to the generator lol, i couldnt stop laughing when i saw it. The all mighty and powerfull Darth Vader, cant even use force push or anything.
LOL.
I find that dissapointing aswell.
Super invincible Sidious cannot get free from a guy and Super strong Vader cannot think of a better way of killing the evil guy.
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Be warned I did not read the entire thread.
Original movies saber battles are boring IMO.
Slow, mechanic, almost static.
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How do I trigger this bug?
I haven't seen it.
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LOTRO started with DX9, then added DX10, then DX11.
It will happen, in time.
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No Galen Marek / Starkiller on the lists?
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- New playable races
- New appeareances
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I play with an AMD+ATI, highest settings and no lag.
So cool story Nvidia bros.
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Palpatine was more powerful. I don't like it either, but it's fact. It's canon. The book says that, in the battle, when Palpatine began to stop underestimating Yoda, he dropped his hold on the power that had been clouding the entire Jedi Order (including Yoda) ..the veil they couldn't see through.. and Yoda saw the "truth" ..that he could not kill Palpatine, that even if he killed this body, he'd rise again. There's clear yet subtle reference to Palpatine's ability to reanimate in another body.. Yoda saw the truth and knew if he were to do any good, it would have to be another way.
Yoda, being the pinacle of Jedi strength and understanding of the Force ..would not continue an unnecesary and effectively pointless fight, even if he could eventually physically win it. He knew all he had would not be enough to permanently end the threat, so he fought to survive and fled when he got the chance in the hopes of contributing to a better end in the future.
Was Palpatine a stronger fighter? That's not the point. It's not really covered.. what is, is that Palpatine had more POWER ..in the ability to reanimate with a new body and to twist the minds of the masses.. Palpatine could not be beaten by Yoda. Period.
I bow to you.
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Yet he obviously believed there'd be a good chance he'd die if he came to that line of thought. There's also Leland Chee's quote. There's also the Dark Empire comics. Which you continuously ignore as well.
I'm not ignoring them. I just don't feel the need to individually quote every one of them.
Fact is, everything goes around a possibility.
Was there a good chance that Yoda would have lost? Maybe.
If this could happen or not, is beyond you, me and any other book writer, simply because Yoda left before we could figure it out.
This is not the only example of a Sith vs Jedi fight where the apparently strongest one loses vs the apparently weakest one.
Things are not that simple.
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But if he fell here, that hope would die with him.
I bolded where it states that.
Fixed it for you.
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he believes there's a good chance that he'd fall if he kept fighting. He knew he couldn't beat him. You seem unable to realize or even admit this..
I can't find any of this on your precious quotes.
You assume, the same way I do.
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What contradiction in the movies is there? Sidious does not die during the movies. Lol, you're evading my question and dodging. "I'm going to throw this out here and claim you just don't understand." another tactic people use when they have no argument.
Sigh... Okay. One last time.
I said EXACTLY THIS:
Canon wise it's:Movies > EU (wich includes books)
All of your argument is based on EU, wich is debatable if it's really the same thing we actually see at the movies.
I can agree with the Force not letting Yoda win, destiny and stuff.
But Yoda lacking the power to defeat Palpatine? Come on.
Then you mumbled lots of words and bla bla, I'm just quoting the main points
Can you prove that the movies contradict the book? Can you prove, without a doubt, that Sidious wasn't toying with him? Or for that matter if he did happen to die he couldn't just switch to a younger more powerful body? In what way does the movies contradict these points? Yoda was much weaker than Palpatine. It's Canon. Even Leland Chee confirmed it and he was hired specifically to ensure that Canon meshes.And then comes the actual book quotes, wich takes us to:
This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known...just--
didn't--
have it.
He'd never had it. He had lost before he started.
He had lost before he was born.
The Sith had changed. The Sith had grown, had adapted, had invested a thousand years' intensive study into every aspect of not only the Force but Jedi lore itself, in preparation for exactly this day. The Sith had remade themselves.
They had become new.
While the Jedi--
The Jedi had spent that same millennium training to refight the last war.
The new Sith could not be destroyed with a lightsaber; they could not be burned away by any torch of the Force. The brighter the light, the darker their shadow. How could one win a war against the dark, when the war itself had become the dark's own weapon?
He knew, at that instant, that this insight held the hope of the galaxy. But if he fell here, that hope would die with him.
This is not talking about a lightsaber battle or a force clash.
This is way beyond that, and it's the reason why Yoda left.
The battle was lost for the entire Jedi Order, not just Yoda. They were now enemies of the Republic because they did not see through the corruption of the Senate and the Canciller. They lost because he did not know if Obi Wan would win vs Anakin. He lost because if he had died, so would hope.
He lost because the Sith went way ahead of a battle; they corrupted the very foundation of the allies of the Jedi Order, they corrupted the Justice system and ultimately, they corrupted the Jedi Order itself.
Do you really simplify your OWN quotes on something as dumb as "Palpatine is so pr0 with a lightsaber oMg he pwnz Yoda anytime n00b!".
Oh the humanity and the reading comprehension...
This is the second time we've debated where you haven't backed up any of your points while resorting to Ad hominem and Strawman arguments before running off. You also get extremely heated and seem to take things a little too personally.And please, enough of that. Every post you made in this thread if half an argument, half of your intents of confrontation with me.
I don't care, and I will not follow that. Just cease.
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No, my argument is that Lucas hired a guy to create rules for his work. According to the rules C Canon is fact so long as it doesn't contradict the movies which are the highest form of Canon. There is NO contradiction in the movies regarding Sidious being more powerful than Yoda. Example, in Dark Empire he returns in a younger more powerful body. Tell me, by the movies, how it proves that cannot and does not occur?
The key to your missunderstanding is in this paragraph:
The new Sith could not be destroyed with a lightsaber; they could not be burned away by any torch of the Force. The brighter the light, the darker their shadow. How could one win a war against the dark, when the war itself had become the dark's own weapon?If you don't get it, have a good day.
You have my permission to mumble as much as you need to.
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I also don't see you refuting any of my points. "Your logic does not work." isn't refuting anything.
Your whole argument is resumed on "because x book says so".
What do you want me to refute about?
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Again, prove it. Where does the movie contradict my quotes? I don't have to prove it. It goes like this.
Can you prove the movie contradicts Sidious being more powerful.
If you can't prove it.
Then it does not.
EU states he's more powerful.
If there's no movie contradiction.
Sidious is more powerful.
You're still following the same line of... whatever is going on inside your head (I dare not call that logic).
Sorry, that simply does not work. For anything in this world, just saying.
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Lot's of words, some nonsense.
I think you're mistaken with the guy you're talking to (seems like you think you have read some of my answers before), might be a good idea to double check first hehe.
Can you provide us with a link with an official statement to back up what you're saying?
The thing is, books can be wonderful and bla bla bla. But movies are open to any interpretation. You say I cannot prove wrong, but neither can you.
All I know is this: at the movie's fight scene
- Yoda mocks Palpatine
- Yoda overpowers Palpatine force vs force
According to what we see at the movie:
- Palpatine has longer arms
You admit it's debatable. If it's debatable there's no clear contradiction. If there's no contradiction. Then it's Canon.ROFLCOPTER
Your ignorance just made my day.
Tell that to Colombus and every other human in the world who proved your silly logic is in fact, WRONG.
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Nope. He couldn't have won. Sidious manipulated him into that position and just prior to being blown off the platform he had his lightsaber knocked out of his hand. Not to mention Sidious wa splaying with him.
Canon wise it's:
Movies > EU (wich includes books)
All of your argument is based on EU, wich is debatable if it's really the same thing we actually see at the movies.
I can agree with the Force not letting Yoda win, destiny and stuff.
But Yoda lacking the power to defeat Palpatine? Come on.
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So...
Can I have your credits?
"I can feel your anger. It gives you focus."
in STAR WARS Discussion
Posted
Anger is to Focus as Fear is to Skyscrapers.
While it is true that some suggest that it's an emotion related to survavility, it is more an instinct-related emotion than a mental-related one.
So, no.