[How PVP in its current state is driving away new potential players]

On 4/18/2023 at 6:46 PM, Sappharan said:

Without a qualifier that is patently absurd.  Here are a few:

• Deserter Debuff (and associated disconnects beyond player control)
• Improper match balance (none, really)
• Map saturation (when maps appear too often in the cycle)
• Players not playing objectives
• Toxicity (players engaging in abusive behavior, bullying, and otherwise obnoxious behavior which intimidates or is intended to make others feel less than)
• 8mans (4mans are fine)
• Class imbalance (that will always be a problem which we must accept because someone, somewhere will always be unhappy with class balance, myself included)
• Map bugs
• Ability bugs

And who is "you" in this?  I enjoy PvP, even with its problems, barring a few outstanding issues that must be corrected (8man abolition and deserter debuff).  The others listed are problems, but not enough to make me want to uninstall.  The other problems are, to varying degrees, things I can deal accept.  In an ideal world they would be addressed.  But I recognize that I will never be fully satisfied, and if I am, it is coming at the expense of someone, somewhere. 

When players hate PvP, they should not engage in it.  You will not receive sympathy for complaints when you do things you hate only to acquire rewards because you may be the players Bioware is acknowledging when they make poor decisions such as the removal of ranked. 

For the rest, it sucks that the introduction to PvP cannot be more gentle.  It should be.  That is what lowbies is supposed to be.  But they borked that too but making one bracket.  Trixxie can spell that argument out better. 

The reason I, and so many others, are complaining is that we want to see PvP improved, not destroyed.

Now, if I misinterpreted your intent...well, I can be a turd sometimes...but without more information or background on your opinions or preferences, to me, your post appears to be a blanket condemnation of PvP.  We have seen that in the PvP forums before, and it is unwelcome. 

Well the you in my statement is obviously me.  I dont care if you enjoy pvp you dont play for me.  I am a guild leader who used to spend a lot of money in the game since i would buy all the new items to fill out my collection. Since I wanted to get as close to 100% collections as possible. I would gladly leave pvp alone except they put a suit of armour in the reward track. so if I want it i need to do pvp.  So now my experience with pvp is hutball you either win quickly or lose quickly. It is usually 5-0 for either side in the first minute. Arenas are usually one stealther hiding to drag out the match an extra few minutes when it is clear one side has lost.  Gald you enjoy pvp I think it is a steaming pile. Welcome to having differing opinions

 

[How PVP in its current state is driving away new potential players]

Nothing will make you uninstall faster than pvp 

 

[not fun]

sure whatever all i can say is the notifcations for those 5 kills was spammed to me all at once. maybe it was server lag maybe it was aimbotting end result you know gsf is bad when people are hoping it is over quickly

[not fun]

It is probably the rise of cheaters. Unless you think in the span of 3 sec a person can really kill 3 mines and 2 players. I dont care personally cause what every gets me the weekly the fastest!

[AFK in GSF Cracks Me Up]

why should anyone care about gsf when most players just castle up with gunships?

[Pet Codes]

Many pet codes are locked behind cartel point cards which are only accessible to those living in the Continental US. I wonder if there is a way you could make them available to those in other countries.

[Old Items]

Have you given any thought to putting items that are either no longer available or are only available via very specific circumstances. For example, the items that were subscriber rewards from 2015 and before or the pets that are attached to game cards that are only available in the US. I would be happy to buy said items from the Cartel market to complete my collection.

[Spoils of War Changes – PTS Phase 2]

While I am not fond of rng I am less fond of gating everything behind operations. If everything is bound to legacy then I can find a use for items regardless of how much I am blessed by the RNG. My major complaint about the current system is the lack of left legacy bound items.

[Is it me? or is Harbingetr still down?]

well sounds like something I need to think about.

[You just paid $15 for 15 minutes of story and no alerts. Let that sink in.]

I paid 15 dollars for a month of a game i love playing. Given that i play at least 2hrs everyday I find that amazing value.

[Do you think the game is coming to an end?]

Everything has an end. Though this game has more than its share of trolls who proclaim it is ending everyday. I currently play in another Mmo that is on its 10th anniversary and the chatter is that same as it is here. If you cant fix these simple bugs in since launch close down the game. The most important aspect of any game is how much fun you have in it. As long as you are having fun nothing else matters. Quite simply life is too short to waste time on leisure activites you do not enjoy.

[Loyal costumers are a few months ticket at best.]

Not sure what you mean buy a few months at best. I have been subscribed for years because of the story and will continue to be so cause of how much I enjoy playing my characters. I have to work like 20 minutes to get my sub for the month and it sure seems like a great bargain to me. I was already sold on the value of subbing before the extra rewards so this is the icing on the cake. If this is not your cup of tea oh well there are so many other games out there I am sure you will find one to tickle your fancy.

[Does anyone really want to play as HK-55?]

I do it will be fun. he is a robot that saved your life, he probably did have a memory backup somewhere so why wouldnt I bring him back?

[Thanks for all of the upcoming changes! (Especially level scaling)]

I am pretty ultrafuntastically excited for the changes coming in 4.0. So yeah thanks Bioware for making the awesome changes.

[Time to get rid of Tank/DPS/Healer model]

As a GW2 player, i refute your point on the dullness of combat. But more on the point, the game shines in it's roles by also tying them into the lore of the classes. E.G. a juggernaut trains to be invincible while a sorcerer learns forbidden rituals of healing. It is a typical mmo thing, but a pure damage game just wouldn't work in a game where it hasn't been built in that way. GW2 is built to have no healer/tank roles, so it works in that way. Swtor is not

 

GW2 had plenty of potential now it is just stack in a corner press 1. WVW combat is zerg ball hit the other side before lag stops all skills. The combat is more exciting with boss mechanics :and kdy was put in so you did not need the trinity that flashpoitns require not to mention the bolstering so yoru friends of different levels could all play together.

[What is the most enjoyable thing about PVP to you?]

Luring 5 imps off the gate to kill chase then watching the stealthies plant bombs on both gates

[Xak's Ten Commandments of PvP]

The first commandment should be

 

1) Thou shalt not waste time in pvp.

[Please, for the love of god..]

Any part of the game that is visited by a minority of the players is wasted time, money and talent. To combat this mmo's often(but not always) incentivise these activities to make them more appealing to the vast majority. Removing rewards is never going to happen, they want more people playing pvp not less.

[Conquest Exploit Farming - Battle of Ilum (Is it an exploit? Or just boring farming?)]

The changes are no surprise to me. They want people playing pvp and gsf, the gameplay is so terrible they need to heavily incentify these activities, otherwise people will just do the dailies and forget they exist. I would expect all the underused parts of the game to be heavily featured in each weeks conquest.

[PVE solo nerfs]

They want to make the game accessible to everyone with all play styles. Having content few use is a waste of time money and resources. Life is where you should look for challenges and fulfillment, this is just entertainment.

[Please for the love of god say this is not going to continue?!]

this reminds me of that web comics where the 4chaners troll ms meyers on one of her online interviews. So in her next book she write how edward likes to hang out on the dark corner of the internet called 4chan. The forums then get flooded with the twihards

[Imperial side has better players]

No the imp side has a lot of pvpers(certainly more than the republic side on my server) but the average skill level depends on the time of day. Sometimes they are like lemmings other times they know what theya re doing either way I get my 8 badges a match so the rest is gravy

[PvP Rewards...why won't BioWare give PvP the same attention they dedicate to PvE?]

Pvp is an after thought for this game. It always was and always will be.

[Swtor economy: GTN shock coming in 2.9]

I am certainly interested in the housing but how much I will put into it remains to be seen. Though I am not at all rich I do like many people like nice things.

[Improving PvP Gaming Experience For All Players]

I think unranked warzones should only allow solo queue and ranked so only be group queue. A nice simple way to differentiate the two. The rest is filler, and PVP is not the challenge you are looking for. If no other mmo could make it work why would you think bioware has the silver bullet? It will always be full of posers taking about how hardcore they are while playing a video game.