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/Clap Bioware
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haHAA they all got their titles already, literally nearly every wintrader already got em, this game is funny hahaha
must b really hard to catch our french friends 8 man botting team ranked with 7 bots that do 0 dmg healing or anything and dont use a singlea bility, and 1 human player that does 15k dps and kills all 4 both rounds. Damn if only there was a way to see that was happening every round by looking at the combat logs Kappa. Must be really hard to detect Jebaited. good job
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catdeija/pt/arena https://i.imgur.com/K9oEhIq.png
catdeija/pt/arena https://i.imgur.com/38Uklx7.png
catdeija/pt/8v8 https://i.imgur.com/qvM6WtE.png
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fun sidenote regs are cancer everyone dies in 5 seconds in 5.0 cuz no1 is left that knows how to play the game or even pop a dcd so u cant even farm good #s unless u get the 1 lucky match of the day with like 6 pub healers all stacking up lul, and cbf to q regs all day so boring
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u lost every1 at marauder buddy. The cc immunity point is fine but its not a huge deal, considering anni has the small heals and is the better 4s spec whereas fury is the better soloranked spec. And carnage is fine too, lets not add broken cc immunity to every spec and instead just remove it from fury cuz its annoying and doesnt need cc immunity + obfs resist anyways kthnx pick one pls eric.
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There is no way I can do more in a game like this. I function fine when the rest of my team can also hold their own, but I don't see how I can do ~40% more damage and more off-healing and more stuns etc. I totally get that a better player would be able to do more, but not to the degree required to turn such a match around.
A. theres always something more u can do but thats besides the point.
The point is that a better player will be able to carry more matches then someone who isn't a better player. U dont seem to realize that literally everyone in the game gets autoloss teams sometimes. Some matches you get a bad team and u just suck it up, lose with them cuz u can't win, and deal with it. U have 3 types of games, autolosses, autowins, and toss up games, and the better players carry more in toss up games than everyone else and therefore get higher rating, thats just how it works, so to say that anyone who has rating that is high is luck just cuz u can't get high rating is just dumb.
Ur pretty much sitting here in thread saying "i dont think im that good i want to get better help me" but at the same time "well anyone who has high rating is a wintrader or a cheater" it just doesn't make any sense lol.
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/Clap Bioware
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I always open tickets and encourage others to do the same. And provide as much evidence as I can (not a whole lot you can do in many cases). But it doesn't seem to do much of anything.Based on this season it would seem you can get away with win trading if you just play enough games legit to look normal and then pay for he-who-must-not-be-named's bot service to top yourself off at the end of the season. So you're not one of those blatantly obvious chumps with like 30+ rating per game played.
More than a couple of the esteemed players on the top of the leaderboard were floundering at about 2k before blowing up about a thousand ELO in only a hundred games or so after a nice french vacation on the mantle of the force. Extremely obvious if you're paying attention but bioware obviously is not and who knows just how much hard proof they require before doing anything. They don't tell us anything.
same thing s7 all the people who got boosts just make it look legit games played wise and dont get wiped
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/Clap Bioware
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All french wintraders (even the notorious one) already received their top 3 titles and flairs, but the majority of legit players didn't.The heck you were doing all this month, bioware? I thought you can't be that hypocritic, but you surprised me again.
bwhahahahahah swtor this is classic
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I do not know who this Asana person is, but they sound like a very good PVP'er. Regardless I doubt even that person would deny that it requires a great deal of luck to go from 900 to +2000.
Again, show me videos of how other ops perform in arenas, I would really like to learn. (Especially how they deal with someone leaving and making the match 4 vs 3
)The fact of the matter is that if u find yourself about a win loss rate like u describe, and find yourself basically saying you winning/losing is at the mercy of your team, then you're not good enough to carry your team. Players with high rating usually are, and while there are some wintraders and some players who just get to a high elo by luck and get carried the rest of the way(certain marauders), that doesn't mean that just because you aren't good enough to get a good rating that everyone who can is lucky or a wintrader. And as for your 3v4 point everyone gets 3v4s and if you get a 3v4 you most likely just lose, thats just how it goes sometimes.
and 900 to 2k or watever to watever rating that u can outline here isn't about luck, its about being good and playing enough to get it
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What good is it to vote kick me out in the last round when i am already dead? It does nothing accept to make some poor cry baby feel better. I was the one that last one left in the first round and killed one of the 4 b4 the other 3 got me.
Thats why they said they was coming after me first in second round and they did, my team let them, they were no where backing me up or nothing then called a kick vote. I call Abuse of the Option.
And your Argument doesnt holds up. If the police chase down a serial killer and they shoot him but he didnt die form his wounds and they taken him to the ER, no matter how many people he killed he still has the right to surgery, other wise they wouldnt just let him die ( although they should but dont ). They have a code and Ethics and a moral compass to guide them. Thats what makes us Humans and not animals. They are Surgeons they dont get to call a "Let'em DIE Vote".
And what that boy did was get made and take it out on me for what ever reason. He abused that power. I can see if i was going in pvp matches and not doing a damned thing or doing things trying to screw over my team mates just for them to lose. Sorry i'm not a sadistic person. I go in i try my best and do what i can to back those up and get us thru to a win but some times in the end we get a lose. We just cant win them all.
You was never guaranteed to win every pvp match, right? But all is Guaranteed/Allowed the right, if you pay your sub fee to play any content of this game. This same abuse goes on in Op groups as well and that just one reason why i stop doing those too. But i do not care, i will not stop pvping, until i am ready too.
I am so sick and tired seeing people complain about tanks not doing their job or dont know how to play the roll, its always tanks fault for every lose. Some times its the others in the team being one or 2 of them but still others can be the blame as well, but to much of a coward to admit it out loud so they blame tanks. WELL BS! look at your self some time, none of you are PERFECT! None!. Try working as a team not going off to get the most kills.
Its *** Ever!
Now excuse me, I have some PVPing to do... NUFF SAID!
The reason for vote kicking you when you're already dead is so you get locked out of q. The vote kick is there so that if 3 players decide that the player being kicked is too bad to be in q, they can kick him and lock him out of q. If you're getting vote kicked u can make up a scenario where its about someone hating u or some garbage, but 3 people have to vote u out, the fact is ur just not good if u get vote kicked, and probably shouldn't be q'ing because your an auto loss. Also the serial killer thing tf does that matter we're talking about swtor. P.S. he'd be executed later anyways. Lastly, and get this thru ur head, ur team didn't "let them". they voted too, because all 3 of ur teammates probably wanted u out of the q for being bad.
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Was doing some searching about the topic and found a post on reddit that is the best explanation I found so far.
So for those wondering here it goes:
Author: ]mistermehAnother Forgotten Jung Ma Player 16 points 3 years ago* [/color]
The matchmaking system is doing a couple of things.
One - It's first a Queue that has mods to allow it to do some swapping. Many people think of it as a Roster that you being put on a list for, but no, it's just a semi smarter Queue line. First in is First Out. Difference is the guy at the end of the line looks at a couple people infront of him and makes some last minute teaming arrangements. It's not like it's a system with team captains picking fair teams. It's still a line.
Two - it's looking at everyone in Queue and trying to determine fair team composition.
So it looks at how many Tanks and Healers are in Queue and assembles teams based on. The equal proportion being on the other team. The basic rule is 2 DPS and then the other two spots can be DPS, Tank or Heals. But both sides have to have the same thing.
Three - It looks at your teams median Rating as a team. And tries it's best to line up those.
The assumption is more than 16 people would Queue at a time and then the system could arrange people and filter them into their rating bracket. The reality is that there isn't a large variety of people queueing.
The reason you are seeing recurring groups or close to it, is the system is still first a Queue, then it tries to sub out to assemble better teams.
For example:
Player 1: DPS Rating 1250
Player 2: DPS Rating 1380
Player 3: DPS Rating 1175
Player 4: Heals Rating 1450
Player 5: DPS Rating 1080
Player 6: DPS Rating 1540
Player 7: Healer Rating 1240
Player 8: DPS Rating 1140
Say the group you are talking about is the first 4 people. What they are doing is using voice comms and Queue syncing at the same time so that they are in the Queue line together.
So long as something else is in the Queue that can be 1) match-up against them, as 5-8 provide, and 2) have a comparable rating as a team; it will just basically allow a match that is First in First out. If you had 4 matches against essentially the same guys this is happening because:
They are Q Syncing - and - you don't have enough people queueing for ranked
The system won't split them up unless the ratings effect it. Just becuase they stomped you 4 times, doesn't mean that their rating is all that far ahead of yours. So with what the system sees is no tanks, but a team that can have 1 healer each. Team one gets the healer with 1450, Team two gets the healer with 1240.
Team one then gets a DPS, but looks at the Queue first. Player 1 at 1250 will do. Team One new rating is 1350 (1250,1450). Team One gets another DPS and Player 2 in Queue is a 1380 and now Team One new rating is 1360 (1250,1450,1380). Team One gets a floater DPS Player 3 at 1175 making Team One's rating 1313. The system so far thinks this is reasonable as the progression was 1350 -> 1360 -> 1313.
Team Two gets a DPS, first in queue is Player 5 at 1080. Team Two's new rating is 1160. System goes, nope nope. Too far off. It reject Player 5 then grabs Player 6 at 1540. Team Two's new rating is 1390. System is happy with itself. It then puts in Player 8 at 1140, for a new team rating of 1306 (1540,1240,1140) and is happy and gleeful. It then goes to put in the floater Player 5 at 1080 and sees that would make team two 1250 and compares that to 1313 and says, swap a DPS. Most likely it would swap Player 3 and Player 5 so that it is Team One (1290) vs. Team Two (1273).
Mathematically the system is happy. But in reality most of see tht there is a good healer with a decent DPS against a team that basically has one DPS carrying the group. We with our brains can guess the outcome of a Arena. Two pros against One.
Their team should always be together. For that to happen, it means those directly in Qeueu with them make up the perfect Rating Match.
Eventually their DPS would wind up on different teams. However, if tanks and healers queue sync it's almost sure that they will be on the same team. But it does matter how many are queueing. Low pop = Low variety. And the system wasn't built to swap 8 people around. It was designed for dozen of teams. Hence the PVP push and desire for cross server queues.
Most teams that are in the Solo ranked queue, queue sync together. With low populations, the team will almost always be together with generally a missing DPS every so often.
Let the "i can't gain elo because my team is bad and not because i do 1k dps and dont use my dcds right" posts begin.
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BW ought to take those people down from last season's LB. It's pretty obvious who they are; they popped up last night of season and have an exceptionally low number of games played.
most of the mantle guys have been around all season in s8, its just the BC guys who popped up on the last night with like 10-20 wins, using mantle tactics ofc
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mantle doesn't wintrade they play totally legit games like 1 person and 3 multiboxed bots vs 4 multiboxed bots
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valor requirement is stupid and shouldn't exist at all. Its just a number of reg warzones u played and has nothing to do with how good u are, or are going to be. I can afk in 25 warzones and get 25 valor boom gg easy now time to q ranked and throw or something. If you want a requirement it should be gear or something but that would be cancer too because the gearing system is terrible. Tbh theres no possible requirement you can have that would stop throwers, wintraders, and trolls.
the idea that you would raise valor to 60 or something, and make someone like me do a ton of regs just to make a 65 token new alt to play on another server with, is disgusting
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just put like a 30s timer on how long u can stay in stealth. That really wouldn't majorly affect stealth classes in any way at all except acid.
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http://i.imgur.com/Mkt2MAh.png - 11k hps operative arena
http://i.imgur.com/ibBzi91.png - 7k dps sniper arena
kinda low so idk if they make watever cut of u have for this but they the only SS I have cuz i never take SS so i figured y not post
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and the "i pay my sub i have the right to this" argument doesn't hold up, cuz then they also have the right to kick you. lol
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the vote kick is there for a reason. If the other 3 players on ur team feel like you shouldn't be q'ing, you get kicked and locked out. It is and should be there. If someone is so bad they cause their team and automatic loss, their team needs to have the option to kick them and lock them out for 10 mins. Yes, as the other guy said, its usually used by wintraders/hackers to get more rating, but to be honest i and others have started using it on really bad players on harb, because frankly if you're so bad that you literally are an autoloss for your team, or dont have any gear, you shouldn't be q'ing and shouldn't be allowed to q.
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another day for wintraders to get more top 3s.
can we at least just end the season
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what does this mean for the ranked season? that it ends 1 day later as well?
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Wonder if the team now with its seemingly new enthusiasm towards actually changing the game will be doing anything about the wintraders who i am for some reason not allowed to call out by name without being banned, but we all know who they are on mantle, begeren colony, progenitor, and other off servers lol. Its clear to see these guys on the leaderboards with 10 wins and 1800-1900 team rating cropping up pretty much every day. Doubt anything will be done to them though. lol.
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/Clap Bioware
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haHAA swtor