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If your dot spec I can see a use for it if you get the amplifier that spreads discharge around after you have used severing slash other than that an emergency slow????
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I hope this is a troll post. Juggs are good in regs, bad in ranked. Nothing about them is OP. If you want to complain about balance, at least complain about the right classes.
Point still stands just be cause they suck $^% in ranked does mean they aren't unbalanced. Did you ever think that 4 maned ranked was the issue. If we brought back 8 manned rank which you still insist they class is fine?? there's a reason peeps play regs over ranked because ranked is boring and favors " I win Classes"
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This is ridiculous, 3 dps with a healer and two of them just cross guarding each other and our team has only one dps who has guard and no one can guard him. SO ofcourse our team will loose since enemy team is just hitting one target without need to switch while our team has to spend time on swapping and these swaps don't really help much since switching targets still takes time which helps enemy healer to heal up both dps easily. Only tanks must have guard since it's their role to save team mates from dps. When dps can both guard, spam taunts and do dps this is not normal and gives a huge advantage in heal/dps ranked games.
Fine with this when they remove DPS from tanks cause tanks shouldn't be doing DPS!
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To address your points there, which were made well.
1. PVP is bolstered to 252 gear. Thats news to me and also irrelevant. By that logic what you're saying is that a level 12 player would have the same gear rating as a lvl 70. We all do flashpoints, we have all watched level 20s die and get mauled in one hit by a vet mode boss, bolstered or not. Its a case of "the thought was there but it just don't work mate".
2. This is a cool method but not the point. I use my cartel armour, have no idea how to use a legacy set, and im not building a new set, I want to overcome the disabilities of the one I own.
3 & 4 - snog, marry, avoiding the point but 10.10 for the info.
5. Cartel vs adaptive gear, no change, UNTIL you do ranked pvp against players with set bonuses as all serious players / leaders no doubt have which makes your paid for armour weaker in comparison no matter what you do.
6. If you want to be the best you still need the best gear.... its a gear based game, Its not a case of.... getting enough to scrape by, its a case of getting the most powerful gear. In this thread, its also a case of comparison between cartel and ossus gear and how investing in the game basically impedes you achieving the best gear.
Might help if you understood how gear works. You do understand that the set bonus is the armor mod so when you take it out and place it in a set of legacy gear (or any gear) the set bonus goes with it! Yeah i know mind blown. So spend 14k to take it out then add to legacy set do this 27 times will run you about 378k . Next take the armor you laughably spent 100 of millions on and set it to a costume yes it cost like 6k for each piece but what the hell man you just drop 100's of millions so suck it up.This way the costume is what everyone sees and your legacy set is what has all the stats on it.
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Hey folks,
For starters, Happy New Year to all of you! At some point, the PvP team is likely to start work on a new Arena map. One thing that the team requested is really understanding what each of you like and don't like about the current maps.
Among all of our Arena maps, which one if your favorite?
Please answer that question in this threads poll. Then, let us know in this thread why is that one your favorite? Also, feel free to add which Arena is your least favorite, and why? Be as specific as possible.
Thanks everyone.
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Answer NONE! I hate four man matches Might be different if you idiots could balance a class but its painfully evident you can't even do that! SO do us all a favor and forgo the lame four man match and BALANCE THE CLASSES.
So I have no hope this is going to happen that is why I stopped subscribing no point in paying for substandard lame content. Since all i do is PVP and you can only do that 5 times a week plus can't get command crates there's really no reason to even log in anymore. Really sad on what this game has become so much potential squandered due to lazy and lack of innovation enjoy going the way of SWG your just another SOE.
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What Kazz said ....
Have tried and do not enjoy the dot spread playstyle on Sin, Mara, Snipr, Op, or PT
Veng Jugg and IO Merc are okay, but can't help but go back to Rage and Arsenal
Guess I like the burst ...feels like you can actually kill stuff....
Hatred has better survivability I suppose than Deception with Leaching Strike, etc.
Its all personal preference though...
Play the spec/style you enjoy is always my recomendation, not which is parsing highest at the time
Kinda disagree, if your a deception going against hatred dot spec their laughable heals can't compete with our burst, which makes sense their focus is the many while we specialize on the one. Plus depending on your utilities deception can get heals when they cloak out the caveat being you have to stay cloaked to receive full benefit there-by losing anything you had proc'd. Granted when you open again you should start process over again but you basically wasted everything that you had proc'd prior to cloaking.
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Disclaimer: my post will revolve around the Serenity spec only.
I recently returned to the game after a long hiatus. I used to main Balance (serenity) Shadow back in 1.7, but after the changes in 2.0 I kinda fell out of the game. I've tried every iteration of the class and spec since, so I know its history.
As a returning player, it is not our defenses that concerns me. Shadows were always squishy, Balance/Serenity in particular, but we had the tools to get around it. We still have these tools and we can mitigate insane amounts of damage. What bothers me instead is the loss of utility and single target DPS. Serenity has gotten better single target DPS since 2.0 but it still feels lacklustre, especially if you compare it to other classes. By reading through this thread I get the feeling that people want to spread dots easier, but that's not our primary concern in my opinion. AoE pressure is useful but it's also detrimental as it sabotages incapacitation-effects such as flashbang and force lift. By spreading dots without control we're becoming less tactical for team play. As such, I don't think we should ever spread dots via Force in Balance or Deathfield ever again. It is fine the way it is now.
However we do lack a lot in the single-target damage department. Back in 1.7 we could still use Shadow Strike, which helped a lot. We now have Spinning Strike procs, but they're not as effective. It is possible that Force in Balance did more damage as well as it only struck 3 targets. Force in Balance also had a range of 30 meters, meaning we could nuke people from a safe distance; and it was great utility too. Personally, I'd love to see the ability back to something like this: hit less targets but deal more damage and have a 30 meter range.
And finally, another thing we suffer from (shared issue with lethality operatives) is that we require a lot of GCDs to get our damage going. I don't really see the point of having both Sever Force and Force Breach. They could easily be combined into one ability. Perhaps Squelch could have a bit longer duration and allow its dot to be spread as well. Also, we need another button to click. Serenity Strike is awesome, but I'd like to see Project back in some shape or another (mainly because it's yellow damage and has a bit of range which suits the playstyle).
Those are my opinions after having been back for about a month.
Kinda missing the whole point of the spec. Your a dot spec and dot specs means attacking the many not the one. Deception's focus is on eliminating the one so If you want single target focus then play a deception sin. To do otherwise renders playing deception pointless. Deception is the king of one on one within the assassin class trio.
Further more what your basically angling for is to have more survival, more single target dmg and they ability to dot the many so a hybridization of the three specs into a super assassin A.k.a merc 2.0. Yes you'd basically be an OP merc we don't need another merc lite or sniper lite. Accept your role your a dot spec attack the many. As it stands now Bioware will never address the glaring obvious factors that make Merc's, snipers and jugs OP because all those I win kiddies who rely on those crutch classes would up and quit and they can't afford to lose that much of the player base. Otherwise they would have addressed this 3 years ago!
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The one that is on the broken bridge is the presence datacron not thr endurance one. Also so far we have only been able to get to the datacrons with a guardian or juggernaut push.
YOU NEED THE GRAPPLE GUN! Etither the one on ossus in a cave off dead dude or from outlaws den
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Pretending bad game design changes are good for the game and not causing a drop in population doesn't help either.
People are leaving SS because it's not populated enough to provide them with activities as often as they'd like. To be blunt the SS server is dying, there's no way to sugar coat it.
This is not "gloom and doom," this is called reality. I'd be surprised if SS lasts another year tbh. I forecast the new gear changes will accelerate the process of death for SS, and the game as a whole.
At very least them coming out and announcing everything getting moved to one sever which would be the death knell of the game. Kinda sad to go from 1.7 million players to barely enough to fill 1
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I'm a solo player. Got mines from:
* PvP Daily and Weekly
* Conquest (doing a little more than daily pvp requirement one can also get those)
* Veteran Flashpoints. Yesterday i got three with Black Talon.
you mean master don't you i didn't see a black talon for veteran on group finder though, i know you can run a veteran through the actual mission giver i only ever get command points though when i do a run through.
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Blame the idiot dev's for this. They decided a great way to increase a diminishing pvp population was to extort its player base into doing ranked instead of balancing classes. Reg's does not give the needed "mats" people are queuing for only ranked does and it's the 20 win one so your force people to que 20 times. So if it bothers you this much just boycott pvp altogether. Instead of calling the players "bads" and telling them they shouldn't que maybe you should tell this dev team they are "BAD" and should move on!
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The idea is, as a vigi guardian, we can dot spread to multiple targets, and thus wind up with greater damage than a burst class with a similar time on target or in combat. This is in addition to the obvious greater dps potential because vigi is at DoT spec.
He is insulting your intelligence not your ability, in case you were confused.
Dot specs vs single target focus is apples to oranges not sure why subject was even brought up.
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Dots? I wouldn't expect to outdps any dots spec. But thats just me.
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I outdps'd kazz by mistake on my vigilance jugg while playing objectives and he never forgot (from his apparent distaste of juggs).
to be fair he came in second which isnt so bad for a non dots classI never understood why he hates them so fiercely. That was like back before any of the jugg issues were fixed and nobody played them.
So you can out DPS a vengeance or Rage jug on your Deception sin every time you get in a match. Wow mate your a better man than me.
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I mean i think he could afford to loosen up a little.
Its kazz we're talking about here. Comprehandable (much less gramatically correct) syntax takes far too much of his valuable time, apparently.
Ps- i didn't run this by my peer reviewer.
its called a TYPO for the galactic-ally effin stupid for those that like too throw stones
sadly, the people from countries where english is not their native language make more sense than you. They also at least have an excuse for incomprehensible syntax errors. What makes your time any more valuable than any elses' exactly.
this is pure entertainment for me. Also, i'm a registered republican so think again on the liberal thing buddy.
3 spelling errors
1 grammar error
English should be capitalized
Should be Else's' not elses'
i'm should be I'm
buddy.[ should be buddy. [
Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
https://www.ragan.com/cut-it-out-grammar-usage-syntax-are-not-the-same-2/
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I am without words after listening to you try to argue nerfs and buffs. I need a) a drink, and b) need to stop posting before I start becoming a bad sin.
Really because I happen to disagree with a few utilities that makes me a bad sin, usually top in DPS for sins and objectives unless dot spec present but what ever mate
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sadly, the people from countries where english is not their native language make more sense than you. They also at least have an excuse for incomprehensible syntax errors. What makes your time any more valuable than any elses' exactly.
this is pure entertainment for me. Also, i'm a registered republican so think again on the liberal thing buddy.
Funny you implement Progressive Liberal tactics like a pro! Can't debate on issues assassinate character right out of rules for radicals!
Again your the only one with comprehension issues the rest seem to be doing just fine.
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first of, you are losing at ranked because your utilitys on sin are not as follows.
skill full: either overloadroot or decreased cd on electrocute, and lowered cd on force speed and stun break
master full: decreased stealth timer, and a flip between 50% speed on balllightning every 9 seconds or a continuous 15% movement increase. (I choose the 15%, it comes with added stlth and I like a more reliable gameplay)
heroic: force speed purges movement , shroud of madness and insta whirl
finally legendary: force speed grants 60% dmg reduction for the duration.
if you dont use these maybe that is why you are losing.
as for tactics, imp enet can be shrouded, but your best bet is to use overcharge saber and fight near los for the inc net. as for your inability to escape on a regular basis, I will only advise to keep working at it. the more you do it the more tactics and counters you learn to pull. like LOSing the sniper just before invis, or whirlwinding the inc stlth scan
lol I never said i was loosing at ranked I don't play ranked cause its a waste of time!
For the record though:
I take
avoidance, Oppressing force, Electric bindings
Speed Surge
Shroud of madness, Emersion
Reapers rush and phasing phantasm
Wrong on Enet the dot can be shrouded the prevention of using your abilities still persists you cannot cloak!
Dude if you cloak out as a sin I will pop you out of stealth 9 times out 10 with lacerate. Very rarely does it NOT hit! Going up against a jug with brains the second i cloak if they hit mad dash i'm exposed its an AOE melee it works just like lacerate has nothing to do with tactics just the dang abilities. AOE melee will expose you shroud doesn't prevent this.
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yes, juggs get tunneled first because they dish out a crap ton of dmg and die fast.. like a glass cannon?
sins last longer, because they can in theory stlth out twice, offering 3 lives. additionaly low slash and insta whirl are incredible for mitigation, since every 15 sec you should be taking dmg from only 3 sources.
the generaly accepted order for ranked targeting is based soley on surviability under fire. the list being
dps pt, dps jugg, dps sin, dps sorc, sniper, leth oper, mara and dps merc. finaly con op.
the choice order is based on antifocus dcds.
with tank tunnel, you always tunnel pts, you can tunnel juggs (it depends) and you never tunnel sins.
with hlrs, you always tunnel ops, you can tunnel mercs and you generaly cc sorcs.
tank tunnel order is based again off antifocus but in the sins case its based on his lack of dmg, mitigation value and the stlth out.
the heal order is based on burst and antifocus. the sorc has the biggest burst and with bubble, phase, heals, possible bubble stun and 30% def when stunned, argueably the best. merc is just a wall, their hls are just kinda meh (in the middle) so we tend to just leave them, like a sin tnk. (cc of course) as for ops, well someones got to be the tunnel and ops need a little dcd love as a hlr. also their hps is hots over burst so its less bursty single target, ie themselves.
Twice??? First off sins get one stealth out and that is easily countered especially if your a melee class, bounty hunters, snipers and ops all have cloak detection abilities merc can drop area detection crap as well the only class that is at a really disadvantaged against our cloaks is sorcs and that is only if the sin in question took shroud of madness if they didn't ANY AOE will pop a sin out!
Plus for those classes that have taunts if you taunt and a sin cloaks when he pops back out to heal he won't be able too. Then there's always the ever wonderful ability called electro-net preventing me from even cloaking in the first place! What's the counter to electro-net???
So sins lasting longer than a jug is only viable if your going up against people who don't know how to counter the cloak. Cloak is NOT the panacea you all make it out to be!
Instant whirlwind comes at a price (which is utter bs IMHO, they took away crushing darkness and our channeled abilities because our spec was suppose to be all instant attacks yet we have to spend a utility to make whirlwind instant. Typical hypocritical BS hark back to they days when sin's got robbed of the knock down on spike yet jugs can throw anyone across the screen and knock them down! )
But I digress, The question becomes what are you giving up for that instant cast? You giving up evasion enjoy being rooted and slowed every 3 secs loads of fun when you've popped force run and then get hit with a root stops you dead in your tracks! So really can't give up evasion so that leaves shroud of madness so now because I give that up i'm a sitting duck when I cloak cause every AOE dot will pop me out. So no dice on that which means giving up phasing phantasm making me into even more of a glass cannon then I already am!
The following as you so eloquently provided is the exact reason imbalances exist in this game:
dps pt, dps jugg, dps sin, dps sorc, sniper, leth oper, mara and dps merc. finaly con op.
All DPS spec's should be hitting around the same DPS the can go about it different ways but they should be equal in over all DPS. All tanks should be tanking around the same amount of dmg and all heals should be healing for the same. All things save skill should be equal.
If we implemented Bioware's notion of balance into boxing you'd be pitting heavy weights vs featherweights and gee I wonder what the out come of those fights are predominately going to be any guess?
What this is( dps pt, dps jugg, dps sin, dps sorc, sniper, leth oper, mara and dps merc. finaly con op.) is a system that is roll dependent i.e. certain classes are designed to take out other classes. Yet there is no penalty for taking out a lesser roll or a bonus for a greater roll. How is it balanced when I face an Operative put out as much DPS as him yet die because I lack the ability to heal? The player playing the operative won but only because of the classes abilities not necessarily his skill. Why bother playing a assassin doing decent DPS when I can drink a 12 pack of corona hop on a vengeance jug face roll keyboard and walk out with top DPS or dam close to it?
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I legit wouldnt even know where to begin correcting all these misconceptions.. but play more ranked, first hand exp will teach you a lot of what you dont know.
Why ranked is a joke literally nobody plays ranked! It's gotten so bad they literally bribing peeps to play it by awarding components to make crap! However, let us examine why jugs get targeted first could it possible be they can dish out a crap load of damage in a short period of time? So yeah it's know wonder the entire team focus's a jug first though even 4 vs 1 you still managed to last longer than a sorc or a sin would so not buying the Ranked excuse and frankly if 8 man ranked was brought back jugs wouldn't be the first targeted. Your actually comparing apples to oranges when comparing 16 man matches to 8 man.
care to extrapolate on those misconceptions?
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There was a comparison of fury to rage going on in a thread about snipers, so yes, this is exactly what we are talking about. As to you specifically, I still have no idea what your original point was; i merely know you seem to be completely unable to deal with a guardian and have gathered that you play a deception sin. That is all i know about you.
You on the other hand seem to assume I main vigi, when in fact, I main tanks and use vigi as my primary dps spec, with a decent competence in focus, fury, tank VG, tank shadow, healing opers, and healing sages as well.
Grammar mistakes are fine, and I really couldn't care less about simple misspellings. Its when the syntax falls apart to the point where your sentence becomes difficult to understand that is problematic.
Tank spec is even worse than the DPS specs! I've seen immortals out DPS Pure DPS specs. Now I'm willing to stipulate those playing might have been new but the issue is it should even be possible period! Your a tank spec not DPS generating that much damage as a tank spec breaks trinity!
As stated many times before Jugs in general's damage to death is to high compared to other classes. Having a Heal on dmg plus decent reflect with a lousy visual effect, throw in super simple rotation for vengeance and you have one of the three I win classes. (Sniper and merc being other two) Fury Mara's slowing replacing all the jugs but they're far more jugs than Mara's still. Now perhaps the reason you can't grasp this is the fact you haven't played any class that was actually a glass cannon all i see is tanks and heal specs. I wonder why that is, couldn't possibly be that dam near all of them break trinity.
As for your inability to comprehend whats written seems to be all your issue. My time is valuable and scarce as it is I ain't going to take the time to write an APA, MLA post just so your over educated idiot syndrome will be placated. Most adults possess enough cognitive ability to discern what is trying to be communicated. If i can discern what someone from another country who's native language isn't even English is when i'm on here I'm pretty sure you can manage a long paragraph or two, suck it up buttercup your making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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i've told him this multiple times in multiple threads, literally pointless reasoning with him.
compare to other warrior specs which isn't what we're talking about
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Oh yay, another totally unreadable post brought by kazz. Seriously dude, proofread or something, because i have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Literally all i get is you don't like guardians.
You play/favor the class, so you refuse to see or hear any arguments that are presented, and you can't argue on merits, so you pull from pages of rules for radicals and attack myself on minutia such as lame minor grammar mistakes as if I was publishing an APA paper for peer review. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds as nine times out of ten you have more spelling mistakes than an eight-year-old.
So, pardon me if I can't take anything you post serious, I tend to ignore educated idiots that adopt progressively liberal zealotry as a means of avoiding the debating of ideas especially when that is what this forum is meant to do.
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glass cannon it is not therefore breaks trinity.
DPS BURST =glass cannon
to be fair he came in second which isnt so bad for a non dots class
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