Nihilix
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Wow, this is what I come back to! It's really cool to know how everyone thought about this. The fact that everyone had such different opinions and reasonings proves to me that a major choice option should have been presented at the end of the Vaylin fight. Maybe Bioware can think of something in the meantime, maybe a surprise Vaylin appearance. Maybe their done entirely with Zakuul, we'll see!
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Lol wasn't even thinking of a Vaylin companion. However, I wouldn't turn her down XD I just wanted to help her. Show her another path and free her.
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Well, Revan survived getting either shot or impaled by four Imperials, and Calphayus survived(at least initially) a full blown assault on the Dread Palace. Anything can happen.
Don't forget Vitiate, the father of Vaylin. She has potential to live on in some form.
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Maybe we should suggest the developers to consider expanding the content of KotET?. It may relate not only Vaylin, but many aspects of the addon. Whether the developers will consider this request because there were many offers on this reason. In KotET would be worth adding more choices that affect the development of the plot, not only change the dialogue and add an extra 50 - 100 DS or LS points . Speaking about the defeat Vaylin - seriously, if we will kill her anyway, then what's the point in that Ferris wheel with the dialogues, if the outcome of one? It is unfair and not logical, besides, no one I noticed it. Those who from the beginning wanted to kill her - well, you got what you wanted, but if dev was talking about elections, let them think about others. Let's create suggestion, which will bring together the main requests to the developers, in relation to KotET, for example, be given the opportunity to redeem Vaylin , make Arcann possible for a novel, and so forth (within reason, but personally I think that this is quite possible). It is possible that this addon will become more diverse.
This is what I originally hoped her. I want the devs to notice how we all felt about being forced to kill someone I wish I could have helped. Now, it's too late to not kill her, we all did that. But her spirit is potentially rolling around inside our heads (And maybe Arcann as well, you sick ****s XD ) and I find her far too stubborn and full of rage and regret to be at peace. I want to be able to redeem her now. I'm on the fence for actually bringing her back to life, I mean, I took a lightsaber stab in the same spot and lived and her body could just be comatosed, you could come up with anything, but that's probably going to set off a bunch of fans. Anyway, with her/ both of their spirits in our head or out and about, I would like to help. And a darksider could torture them for their father's sin for eternity, or keep their spirits as trophies or whatever....you sick ****s...
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How are any of Valkorion children not broken? Just because Thexan found a way to cope, doesn't mean Arcann should have too. By that logic Vaylin may as well have. Vaylin doesn't barely shows any emotion except anger and never wanted to do something that's right, never wanted to stop killing and always thought of ways how she could torture her mother. Was Arcann even slightly the same? Not really.
Arcann and Thexan were raised side by side (this is assumed due to them always being together in the trailer) but Arcann turned to the dark side and actually killed his bro. I can agree it's unfair to expect Arcann to cope just like Thexan, but he strayed pretty far off the path! Your logic is flawed. Vaylin went through MUCH worse than her brothers. Valkorian was a manipulative ******e to his sons but a monster to his daughter who put her through the Nathema treatment. Vaylin was forged into only feeling that way, all I wanted to do was show her....A WHOLE NEW WORLD! A NEW FANTASTIC POINT OF VIEW! NO ONE TO TELL US NO OR WHERE TO GO! OR SAY WE'RE ONLY DREAMING!
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Arcann was broken. Thexan was the only one able to stay sane under Valkorian.
Also, Vaylin was given the same. She just didn't want it. Just because you couldn't get her to want to be redeemed, doesn't mean she wasn't given the same chances to be redeemed.
My Consular and Senya kept saying to Vaylin "It's not to late."
I'm starting to wonder if people didn't pay attention to the chat wheel or kept choosing dark side options
Thexan and Arcann have very little experience with Nathema, I think they went there once and left quickly. Vaylin was far more broken than them.
Yes, you kept trying to help Vaylin, but you won't change people's minds across a battlefield. You need to beat them then show them a better way, like with Arcann. Our only ever interaction with Vaylin was violence. You can't get into a Mexican standoff and ask someone to change, it just won't work, walls are up.
Yeah, because Senya is the best source of emotional intuition
I love the lady but she is a terrible judge of character! I also never chose the options that painted Vaylin as hopeless. I'm quite Neutral, despite being a Sith Warrior, hilarious I know. -
That's a matter of perspective . For exemple , while we can 'Redeeem' arcann..I still don't see any quality to actually do that . I still don't think he deserve it....and they did it in a way where I have to...because he is tied to senya..which suck .
I honestly thought Arcann was less redeemable. He wasn't broken and had Daddy issues. Thexan went through the same thing as him and seemed okay in comparison. If he got a chance after being beaten and broken, Vaylin deserved the same.
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"The Outlander freed me, Father."
She outright says that in the end.
Is that literally or figuratively? Because you do literally free her from his grasp
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I'm quite happy to know that so many of you cared about this topic to carry it this far. The fact that there are so many different viewpoints on this topic proves to me that we should have had the opportunity to save her. Even if the devs made it end in failure, I wanted to try. Nothing would be achieved by shouting at each other from a battlefield. When you see that happy little girl in the trailer, learn the actions taken upon her on Nathema, and see Valkorian thought it was justified and still taunt her, I thought that killing her was an easy way out and she deserved better, a real chance. I didn't want her as a companion, but I did want her to show her a new path and undo what Vitiate did, it would be an even better middle finger in his face. Don't get me wrong, she needed to be stopped. She did kill Torian / Vette
“When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change”
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Nothing is uglier than this hunk of junk, imho
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omg. she called your character my love - you must be married now /eyeroll. you were NOT in an exclusive relationship, the romance was never locked it. you were in stages of falling in love - but there was no discussion of "we are exclusive now". I don't know about your dating history in real life, but guess what - people in real life date and kiss and have sex without formally being in an exclusive relationship. until you both discus it and agree on it? you are NOT exclusive.
moreover - she and Koth KNEW EACH OTHER FOR YEARS. they may have been looking for outlander for years, but that doesn't change that they knew each other for years, while outlander was nowhere to be found and worked together in a resistance against Arcaan. for years. and again. its none of your business what and adult woman did with her body while not in an exclusive relationship. she. didn't. cheat. there was nothing to cheat about. being mad at her for finding some temporary comfort with Koth is pathologically possessive. and btw, you CAN ask her again, and you can ask Koth again and they are both dismissive, becasue whatever they had? is in a past, they are now platonic partners and that's all that should matter.
Thank you. This is it. She's her own damn woman. A powerful and strong willed one at that. She kissed the main character a few times and opened up to you, but nothing more. She was looking for you for 5 years with Koth, who had a lot of better romantic opportunities (which he clearly ****ed up, loser). Still, it really isn't any of your business. What they did is over and past, and all she is focused on is being romantic with you after the whole carbonite thing. Be thankful she still has feelings for you after all those years. Gosh, so ungrateful and possessive!
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What's the problem? A woman can't find another mate when her previous one dies? She's not bound to you.
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Deal with Vaylin WHO IS STILL IN OUR HEAD!!! Also with the Rep and Imp who immediately went for each other's throats. Acina was cool with me so I'll help her out. Saresh sullied the rep of....the Reps XD Iokath will be interesting to return to. We are the most powerful force in the galaxy right now, so Bioware better come up with something interesting. Imagine if Lana let her sith side take over and SHE stabs you in the back and take over. HAHAH IMAGINE IT!
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Is she just running around inside your head now?! We didn't eradicate her spirit like we did to Valkorian! I don't know about you guys, but I gave her the choice to side with me, she approved and she (along with Arcann and Senya, beautiful family moment fyi) helped me wipe the floor with Valkorian. So, she's just there now? Is that what future chapters could be about? I wanted to help the lady, especially after seeing the 'Betrayal' trailer, so maybe that opportunity will arise, but I feel a lot of the player base may not like that. Thoughts?
P.s. You could have given me 3 choices with Vaylin Bioware!!!! Why you make me kill her?
[Light] Knock her out, take her to the Voss Mystics
[less light/ Neutral] Sever her connection to the force. Jedi do it, so can I.
[Dark] Shishkebob her. Which we all did.
So....about Vaylin....
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They brought back Malgus, they can bring her back, too! Imagine the Sith Empire got a hold of her body and use her as a puppet. That'd be a really cool twist! A man can dream....