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shadow/assasin serenity'hatred with accuracy stim
Don't forget about the crit bonus on relics.
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Having trouble with mobs? Simple, Aoe taunt + saber reflect + AOE attacks = aggro held.
Wrong order. Taunt is a *multiplier*, it doesn't do anything on it's own. You want to Saber Reflect before you AoE taunt if you are going to use AoE taunt.
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It's great for Advanced Prototype, particularly when combined with the raid wide alacrity buff at the start of a fight. I wonder if it would be worth it to use an alacrity relic / adrenal (do they make alacrity adrenals?) for this specific mechanic.
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Goal to head towards in SM Deceived (216) gear: 2639 (0xAug) Defense | 1569 (9xAug) Shield | 973 (5xAug) Absorb
SM means Story Mode operations, which drops rating 216 gear, which is named "Defiant" at the Operations Gear Vendor. Deceived was an old name that no longer applies.
I'm guessing that the numbers are how much you want your stats to read... I'm also guessing that (9xAUG) means you need 9 augments that (in the example above) have Shield on them?Yes, that is correct, 9 augments with shield. It doesn't matter what things you augment with shield and which you augment with absorb, just that the ratio 9/5 is correct. What is *not* listed in that stat line is how many shield enhancements and how many absorb enhancements to use. I'll come back to that momentarily.
I have 1000 Common Data Crystals... What do I spend them on to gear myself to do Hard mode FP's with my friends?There are 3 "levels" of gear available from the vendors for crystals.
The lowest level gear is rating 208 and is named Outlander.
Next comes the rating 216 gear and is named Defiant.
Last comes the rating 220 gear and is named Exarch.
There are better versions of Defiant (216) gear available from story mode operations, and better versions of Exarch (220) gear available from hard mode operations.
In order to get numbers close to what the Dulfy guide is suggesting, you need to get the story mode operations gear. Without that gear, you won't even come close. So with that in mind, here's what I'd recommend.
- Spend tokens on a set of "Outlander Bulwarks [name] MK-4" armor, MH, and OH. Do not buy an earpiece or implants yet - this should be 9 items.
- Take off all your gear. Put on only the Outlander gear you just bought. Check your stats to see what your shield and absorb are at. Ignore defense and endurance.
- Buy an earpiece and 2 implants with the goal of getting roughly 1 shield for every absorb you have. I have no idea what these numbers will be for you offhand, but make shield and absorb roughly balance.
- You should now have 12 items.
- There are no rating 208 relics available right now, it's weird. Use whatever you have.
- Honestly there are no good relics available for just crystals, but there are some that can be crafted relatively cheaply by an artificer. Look for a [level based name] Relic of Fortunate Redoubt and a [level based name] of Serendipitous Assault.
- Augment your gear with 9 shield augments and 5 absorb augments.
Endurance
Shield
Absorbtion
Defence
In what order? Whats the reasoning behind building differently with the above stats?
Endurance and Defense you can't do much to affect once you start talking about end game raiding gear. You get what you get with a few exceptions (ie. can swap a defensive relic for an offensive one to get more endurance - which I suggested you do above with the Serendipitous Assault Relic).
How much shield vs. absorb a juggernaut should have is basically *the* question for tank builds. The more shield you have, the more frequently you mitigate damage, however the larger the amount that you get hit for when you do shield. Consider this example. Suppose a mob is hitting you for 1000 a bunch of times in a row. If you have lots of shield but not much absorb this is what would happen:
1000 damage
800 damage
800 damage
1000 damage
800 damage
800 damage
Whereas someone with lots of absorb but not much shield would get
1000 damage
1000 damage
300 damage
1000 damage
1000 damage
300 damage
Or something like that. I invented those numbers out of thin air to demonstrate the point.
So there are people who have crunched the numbers and have found that if you want to take the least *total* damage possible, then for a Guardian (this is not true for Shadow or Vangaurd), you want to have roughly equal shield to absorb. The way Dulfy has you gear, you will take more damage, however you are less likely to take a lot of damage in a row. The reason that Dulfy suggests this is due to the fact that healers can in general heal more damage than the tanks need over the course of the fight, however they have an absolute limit on how much they can heal in a short window. Thus if a tank gets unlucky and doesn't shield anything at all in a short window, then that might be too much damage to heal in that time frame. This is sometimes referred to as "burst damage" or "squishyness" . Average mitigation doesn't help you at all if you get an unlucky string of no shielding. Dulfy suggests that you get more shield to make those unlucky strings less frequent.
Oh one more thing I forgot... I'm currently doing the Revan storyline and thats given me a 'set' of orange gear...Should I buy decent mods for that instead?
Nope, just get the purple artifact gear from the supplies section.
tldr: Get the Bulwark's gear, get some augments. This will be enough for the HM flashpoints.
- Spend tokens on a set of "Outlander Bulwarks [name] MK-4" armor, MH, and OH. Do not buy an earpiece or implants yet - this should be 9 items.
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It's worth noting that the given optimization/rotation yields higher DPS that is posed on the first page for 224.
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From a programmers perspective (though not one who has ever actually written/worked with large distributed systems), excessive button mashing could be causing synchronization problems that is adding latency. I've heard anecdotal evidence from a couple of people who parse heavily that *reducing* the queue time and pressing a key only once can actually help with latency; though sometimes at the cost of the skill not going off at all due to dropped packets. Perhaps someone can do an experiment with this somehow?
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Ty for the feedback do they also have like a difficulty order as to which ones to run before jumping into harder ones?
For storymode operations, gear is no longer a concern. If a player knows the operation and their class, then with the bolster your stats will be more than sufficient.
The easiest story mode to tank is undoubtedly Kragga's Palace, followed by Eternity Vault. Every fight has like 1 or 2 things to care about (if that) and that's it. Here's how I would rank the story mode operations in terms of how difficult they are for someone going through them as a tank for the first time.
- Kragga's Palace
- Eternity Vault
- Toborro's Courtyard
- Scum and Villainy
- Temple of Sacrifice
- Ravagers
- Dread Palace
- Dread Fortress
- Terror From Beyond
- Explosive Conflict
Undoubtedly people will disagree with me (and be right to do so), partially because I only remember some of the differences between SM and HM and partially because everyone finds different things more or less challenging. That said, this at least gives you a vague reference.
As for the HM flashpoints ... I dunno. There are certainly ones that are harder than others, those that come to mind would be
- Lost Island
- Tython
- False Emperor if it's still bugged.
Nothing else comes to mind directly.
- Kragga's Palace
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I'd be curious how you could actually balance such a class.
If it's doing more DPS than the current healers (and I mean significantly more, not minor 5% differences), it would necessarily need to do significantly less heals or it simply becomes the only healer people bring in progression. If it does less heals than the other classes, then there are fights where that just isn't going to be enough, so you don't bring this class in progression.
So then the only option would be to put both its heals and its DPS on par with current classes (yes, I know operative healer DPS is much lower than sorc healer DPS). If you need to use DPS skills to use your heal skills, then given that your DPS is low, you would be spending many GCDs per fight doing almost nothing. Either that, or you have multiple skills that are off the GCD and this whole class would play very differently than any of the current classes. (Not saying this is a bad thing, just observing.)
I played LOTRO for a while and the Warden was a very different class compared to any others and they made that work. So it's probably doable, I'm just curious how it would be done.
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extra endurance, full 224 tank has like 73k hp, some hm bosses hit >75k, alternatives are B mods, dps relics/augments
No, I get why to use a DPS relic instead of a 2nd tanking one. I'm wondering why power proc instead of mainstat proc.
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- Tanks - Use Power Relic as the default alternate relic (replacing Mastery Relic) when gearing for higher endurance.
Any particular reason for this change? I scanned through some of the more recent pages in this thread and I didn't see anything. If I had to guess, it's a marginal DPS increase but that's it?
- Tanks - Use Power Relic as the default alternate relic (replacing Mastery Relic) when gearing for higher endurance.
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The DPS should (with very few exceptions) never start on the golds. So if they pull the gold off you due to anything but AoE, they are doing it wrong. In most cases, they should kill the small stuff first, then go on to big stuff.
As for you, with the above in mind, ignore the standard mobs. As for strong (silver) vs. elite (gold), the strongs often do more damage than the elites, so they should be your focus. Ideally both DPS are attacking the same mob so that you don't have to split your attention.
What level/class are you? The ability to keep AoE threat is really dramatically different between the classes while leveling.
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Think of it like a sorc bubble that lasts 6 seconds and absorbs a maximum of 1360 damage.
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So ideally what kind of that numbers would a Vangaurd tank who is full 78 being shooting for in terms of def /shield/ abs now that 2.4 is out?
We need to know the damage profile of the new raids before the numbers can be crunched. In fact, there are no numbers to crunch without that profile.
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I don't know the name of the ability, but everytime you shield with dark ward, you get a stacking absorb buff. The absorb buff is removed if you use dark ward again.
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Veracity
203 mit, 145 end, 348 total, 1/0.71 ratio
KD
187 mit, 217 end, 404 total, 1/1.16 ratio
DF (PTS numbers)
PTS is currently down, will update when it comes back up
It's not a question of the ratio of the endurance to mitigation on the piece; it's a question of the difference between two pieces. For your example you lose 16 mitigation and gain 72 endurance. That's a 72:16 or a 4.5:1 ratio, so for shadows as dipstik said, it's a good deal all around.
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I think the idea behind the crits is for the selfs heals from DoTs in the watchman/annihilation tree. Same thing for high endurance as it's a percentage based heal.
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I'm fairly certain there is no such thing in SWTOR. I havn't tested it directly but I also have never seen myself take more damage when turning to move a boss; additionally I have seen myself deflect things with my back turned.
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I use intercede on Styrak every time he does a force pull (which actually throws you). Given that you just spent some time in the exhaustion zone you'll be down some health so it wouldn't be 'wasted' if you will. I can see the possibility on Thrasher too when jumping down from tanking the snipers. Similarly when tanking Tu'chuk this has possibilities; though no guarantee that you'll need a heal at the time you use intercede. Other fights may have some potential as well.
I don't think these situations are enough to warrant using the vindicator set bonus but it's food for thought.
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See ya, have fun.
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You cannot get high might versions of the set bonus armorings, so all you can do is waist, bracers, mainhand, offhand, and 1 more. So you have 5 to play with. I think it's mostly a wash, but you'll find people who argue both ways.
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You can see your 'stacks' in your debuff bar (above your health, on the right hand side by default); those that stack will have a number on the icon as well. Sometimes the boss may get 'stacks' in which case they will show up on his buff/debuff bar (above his health).
'Guard' is an skill that you get at level 14 that you can use on another friendly toon when in your tank stance; it lowers the threat generated by that other person as well as reduces the damage they take if they are close enough to you. It is a toggled ability much like a stance. There is only one ability like this, though each tank class has it. In PvE there is very rarely a reason not to put your guard on someone.
I'm sure that Kitru will jump in here momentarily and give you a more complete wall of text.
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The most useful for endgame content is Biochem. While leveling, *shrug*, it hardly matters other than personal preference.
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Was it on the Dread Guards when you had force leach on you? He may have done a kolto missile.
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Is there any particular reason to go with the DPS relic in place of a MK-26 Shrouded Crusader? As far I can tell, you lose a very small amount of endurance and gain an extra defensive proc in place of a DPS proc (and some crit and power). You're getting most of the best of both worlds, high(er) mitigation, and high(er) health.
It's entirely possible this has been answered somewhere past the first few pages and I missed it; if so, feel free to tell me to go find the previous discussion