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So he's in Med Watch, all his damaging abilities (except "auto attack" which you can't disable for some reason) are disabled, and he stands right next to me (I keep him on passive 'till he runs up next to me so I'm sure he's in range) shooting at mobs until I die.
Never casts a single heal, even though they're all on auto-cast.
And yet, after I die, and I res, and I'm out of combat, Channelling Hatred, he starts healing me...
EDIT: He exhibited this behaviour before I started pulling him in next to me by putting him in passive and then taking him out of it, I just started doing that because I've had bad experiences with Doc (JK) getting out of range and just switching to shooting things instead of running into range to heal.
BioWare's AI code is extremely poor...
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There should be some on Voss you can do at 43...esp 44. Kill some mobs there until you reach 44 My Jedi Shadow could take on mobs 3 -4 levels higher than he was when I was there. If you donot have any rested exp...start up a alt and level them while your main gets rested exp..that will help also.
You don't understand, I've done Voss up 'till the point where you go to the Dark Heart to kill Lord Fulminiss...
...and I'm still ~43.5...
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Is there a level 40 bonus mission line on Alderaan? I thought I read something about a bug with it. If so that would help. I'm about the same level as you but I haven't quite finished Belsavis so I was going to see about these Alderaan missions to level up a bit.
The only Alderaan quest I can get is from the Republic Fleet and is mid-30s (so grey).
it sounds like you rushed through quests.If by "rushed through the quests" you mean "did the storyline and all the quests you picked up along the way" then yes.
Otherwise no, I was sold a story-driven MMO, not a story-driven-until-you-stop-to-grind MMO.
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You're meant to do Belsavis from 41-44 before going to Voss
Belsavis is finished.
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So I'm level 43, and I've finished Belsavis and I'm a decent way through Voss.
All the Voss quests I have (except Need to Impress, which I can't turn in (nice BioWare)) are 47+.
What can I do to catch up?
Don't say:
PvP
Flashpoints
I've looked for a bonus series that's around my level, but I can't find one, Hoth's and Belsavis' don't seem to be available 'till late 40s (for whatever reason), Balmorra's is grey, Alderaan's is grey...
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I am having a hard time seeing the relation to the subject at hand.
How does the option to kill NPCs relate to an option to [Flirt] with NPCs of the same gender?
I was talking about them slapping you as a follow up to flirting (unsuccessfully).
You quoted me talking about that.
I assumed you were talking about that.
o_O
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(bioware make it so)
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Seriously if I see that stupid submit a ticket screen again when accidentally hitting \ instead of enter I am going to do bad things to someone.
How do you do this?
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Again, there is nothing in the MMO acronym that implies a social aspect. That's you interpretation.
That's the "massively multiplayer" part. You're playing a game amidst many, many other people -- your whole server. If it was just an MORPG, it would be different, but it's not.
As much as I don't understand yours. In this day and age you want to forbid people of the option to choose how they want to play and with whom. That's impossible for me to comprehend.I'm not saying this, and if BioWare could figure out how to reduce the sharding by making servers more populous, I'd be all for that.
What I don't want is random, automatic grouping, because that creates a set of incentives which conspire to totally destroy any social element to the game and cloister the game into groups of friends and guilds.
I never played Kotor 1/2, so not sure what you are talking about.Imagine TOR without the on-line component.
Alternatively, imagine Mass Effect or Dragon Age except in the Star Wars universe.
I enjoy the co-op gameThen why not play a co-op game, that's my point. Co-op games exist. Why are you coming to an MMO and trying to make an MMO into a co-op game.
That's the problem. You wanted a co-op game, I wanted an MMO. Now you're trying to make the MMO into a co-op game and deny me the experience I bought the game for the first place.
I'm sure you know how much that screenshot proves of your past achievements.Yeah I just shopped that title in there.
Give this up. You have no idea what I did or did not do when I played in BC. Actually address the points that I raise, don't attack the person raising those points.
That's called an "ad hominem", and it's a well recognized logical fallacy -- it's tantamount to just giving up completely.
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Kael and Vashj on Karazhan purples? Yes, sure. You have clearly never been there.
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Yes, sure, you were the special famous super-star dude on your server that got invited into a high-end raiding guild in your quest greens.
That's a deliberate mis-characterization of my experiences.
Do you seriously think that it behoves you -- and your point-of-view -- to assert that something is true of me when I explicitly said in the quoted text that it was not?
Skipping the non-sense about US economy, you are clearly out of your mind.Argument by assertion.
As for the rest, if people are taking the cross-server option, that means, the don't give a **** about the intra-server community. Which means, nobody but a few selected people like you, cares about it.Why are you forcing people to care about something that only you cares? Because you know better?
So people are choosing to play a "massively multiplayer" game, but they don't want to exist in a world that's "massively multiplayer".
I really don't understand the mindset. You're going sit down and play a game, the whole point of which is that you play on-line in a community of other people, but you don't want to deal with or be a part of that community, or have any investment in it.
I mean that's really what separates a game like TOR from a game like KOTOR or Diablo -- the community.
So is your complaint that there's no LFD, or is your complaint that this isn't KOTOR 3? That's what I'm getting at. If you're mad that BioWare didn't give you KOTOR 3, where you could solo everything because it was a single player game, then make that complaint, but coming in here insisting that it's good for an MMO to take the "MM" part out of it is just bizarre.
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Fixed for spelling errors.
Missed this gem. The tuning for BC raids were such that you weren't skipping tiers and getting slots in raiding (especially progression raiding) guilds based on your server rep alone.
I don't see how people think that asserting things about another person's experience adds validity to their argument, especially when it's a shot in the dark, and likely to be wrong.
I did know several people in their guild, but they weren't my "buddy", they were just people I had played with because we had to group together because we couldn't just hit a button and grab people at random from other servers.
The first raid they took me on was an attunement run.
Having your foot in your mouth isn't very becoming, which is why you should try and avoid these wild assertions.
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By your own words. Your need to be recognized as a 'good' player in a virtual community.
I never said that I had a "need" to be thusly recognized, I merely pointed out that being thus had certain positive side effects, and was therefore desirable.
No, it's not, it's hardly that. And if you really think that you can fulfill social needs in front of a computer with virtual friends instead of humans in flesh and blood, you should consider professional help.Where did I say that I would use "virtual friends" instead of "humans in flesh and blood"? You're treating two things as mutually exclusive when they aren't. I can choose both.
That's like saying "you go to movie theatres, therefore, you don't watch live theatre". It's ridiculous because the two actions are not mutually exclusive. You can enjoy the "silver screen" while also enjoying a real live play.
Once again you rely on believing that you know what is the true definition of a MMO, and your definition is the only right and correct one. You are wrong again. Any online game with hundreds of thousands of players IS a MMO. Just look at the meanings of the acronym, there is ZERO reference to social aspects.That's an argument by assertion.
A game is an MMORPG because it is "massively multiplayer", "online", and a "role-playing game".
When you take away from elements which define being "massively multiplayer" -- i.e. interacting with people on a massive scale (i.e. your server) -- and replace them with elements which are more traditionally multiplayre -- i.e. matchmaking -- then you're detracting from the "massively" quantifier which is part of the name and definition of the genre.
For me a MMO is just a fancy name for a co-op role play game (where the vast majority of the players don't role play at all, they just play "classes" of characters). Simple as that.You can just say "[f]or me a MMO is just [...]" anymore than I can say "for me red is just green". That's arbitrary redefinition of terms. In order to qualify a game must be:
"massively multiplayer"
"online" and a
"role-playing game"
Meaning that you must play a role, you must do so on-line, and you must do so in a setting where you're interacting with many players simultaneously. Logging in and clicking a button to queue up with 4 random people does not meet the criterion of "massively multiplayer", it is simply "multiplayer" in the same way that CoD and Halo are.
Do you really stop playing to discuss (while typing) religion or politics before killing a boss?I actually wouldn't mind.
Especially politics.
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Haha, this is starting to get entertaining. Let's compare getting a LFG tool to the economic crisis!
Rediculous
Stating that something is "[r]ediculous [sic]" but not giving a reason as to why is not compelling.
In both economics and social interaction people respond to incentives, therefore, the two are -- in some instances -- comparable.
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I'm glad to see that there are others which really understand the problem. Great example.
Except they don't understand the problem, which is the real issue.
People are over-simplifying the issue or looking at only one facet of it, which is the real problem with discussing this issue.
The "social" aspect that I -- and others -- are defending is not a part of actually finding and making a group, it's the fact that the group that you make is selected from a base of players with which you have convenient opportunity to socialize again in an environment where repeat socialization earns you substantial rewards.
People who actively did 5-mans in vanilla/BC/early WotLK had a network of people who knew them and who'd do groups with them. This was the reward that made socialization desirable. Nowadays people can just click a button so why bother meeting new people?
We don't just meet new people because we happen to meet new people, there's always a reason that brings people together, whether it's working collaboratively on a project or both liking the same music.
Going to the same class for a semester with someone gives you the opportunity to befriend that person. Going to an event with that same person for 30 minutes and then never seeing them again doesn't.
That's the point.
That's the problem.
That's what people are not understanding.
People are focussing on the actual act of getting a group together, rather than the incentives and side effects which are in play and of which that act is a necessary consequence.
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They, can, but it becomes harder and harder. Back in BC, the time you so much cherish, the gear ladder was abysmal. Any guild past Gruul/Mag would hardly accept players not wearing their current gear level, be it from SSC/TK or Hyjal/BT. Not to mention, BC had Sunwell which is probably one of the most elitists expansion in the history of MMOs.
I got into a guild that was doing Hyjal/BT wearing nothing from any raid higher than Karazhan, because I had a reputation on the server for actually being good.
Besides, who cares? If a guild hasn't seen Kara/Gruul/Mag, why shouldn't they go through it and then progress? It's not like their just redoing content. I don't understand this mentality that everyone must see the latest content or the world will end.
Negatively impact what? I want a tool with a checkbox to allow people with your mind set to say "I want to group with people from my server only" while I can leave that box unchecked and just play a dungeon as soon as possible.You clearly don't understand the system of incentives behind something like that. As soon as you introduce the option of grouping with people not on your server, people are going to take it. They're going to say "oh well I just don't feel like waiting this one time" and eventually that -- in aggregate -- creates an avalanche where on server players are grouped up with off server players so quickly that forming a totally on server group takes much longer than it did before.
And there's still the automatic aspect. If I'm automatically inducted into a group, I can't vet the group for people I don't like or don't want to play with, and they can't do the same for me. Moreover, they can't look at the queue of people, see someone they like, and select them over anyone else, because everyone is treated equally by the system.
"I want this feature, therefore it should be in the game" is a terrible mindset, because things can have unintended consequences. People in the U.S. wanted houses, so they said the government should conspire to make sure they can get mortgages.
I mean there was no downside to that...right? People got houses and lived happily ever after, there was no perverted system of incentives that conspired to destroy the system it was supposed to enforce?
...right?
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Easily finding a group is the MOST social thing that can happen in a game!! Looking for a group all day isnt social! its just boring and a waste of time.
So you get some bad apples in your group? kick them out! We did it all the time in WoW! Everyone in the group knew they were bad, so we kicked them, case closed, back to running the dungeon and having fun and being social!
This argument is completely stupid.
The argument is stupid when your over-simplify it the way you have.
The argument isn't that getting groups easily is bad, or that it's asocial, the argument is that the side effects of an automated, cross-server system, which groups people who have no connection (i.e. exist in the same game world because they're on the same server) creates a massive disincentive for social activity, and also creates a massive move towards "dumbed down" content, because the group cohesion and co-ordination just isn't "there".
This starts a downward spiral to where the game because totally asocial and formulaic, and nothing is a challenge, and nothing is therefore rewarding.
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So no one agrees with me that this is a little messed up?
What would you give Republic Troopers?
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Your suggestion is pure genius because it's so simple.
Why can't they implement it? Or better still, leave it the way it was in Beta?
They need to just put in a modding API, which would allow the 3rd party community to give you whatever you wanted in your UI.
OmniCC adds exactly this feature to WoW, for example.
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You can't talk to strangers.
Isn't that what I'm doing now?
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I thought you said you friends to group with? You have friends when people are forced to group with you but you don't have friends when they aren't forced to group with you.
Ergo you never had any friends to begin with
I don't always have friends who are on-line, and when this happens there are two options (under both prospective scenarios):
1. Find a tank in LFG. Maybe he's really good. Maybe he's a cool dude. Maybe he gets on vent and we have a great time. So I friend him and the next time I'm on at that time we do another instance, and so on and so forth.
2. Hit the queue button. A tank magically appears. There's no difficult content (thanks to LFD skill dilution), there's no social attachment, there's no socialization (vent or otherwise). I don't know if this dude is cool, he's probably decent, but it doesn't really matter because everything is easy. He leaves and I don't really bother with him because I can just hit that queue button again next time.
I'm all for systems that brings player together in an environment where there are challenges to overcome, and where they can group together and interact conveniently thereafter.
Cross-server systems don't do that.
Automatic systems don't do that.
I completely agree with this, this is one issue that needs to looked at. The votekick does help the majority of the time but it can be improved.I personally liked unilateral kicking.
Most people didn't like Vanilla's "Raid or Die" mentality and the 50 plus hours you had to put in a week for pvp. Not enough players wanted to do that type of game play so they changed it by downgrading raids and streaming PvP.The burning crusader wasn't fun and caused a lot of players to quit. If you lost a tank, you had to key the guy up for a week to get him up to speed. WOTLK was the most successful expansion so yeah ...WotLK also disenfranchised a large swathe of people who really loved the game.
There needs to be a balance, but the balance isn't spoon feeding the "casuals" whatever they want, and screwing over the people who built the MMO genre in the first place.
maybe MMORPG's aren't for you anymore?I left WoW to escape the community corruption of LFD.
But apparently the LFDers aren't happy just having their one game, they need to have all the games.
It's like politics. The people who want to ban marijuana won't just not smoke marijuana, they don't want anyone to do it.
There was 7 people when I logged onto hoth last night, I still haven't seen a republic player and I'm almost 40. I dont feel anything realllyThis is a faction balance issue, and needs to be addressed somehow.
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This happens in WoW too.
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I did shoot that skank on Ord Mantell who turned out to be Skavak's ringer. Corso hated that.
Well I'm a radical voluntaryist (irl), and because of that, that's how I role play most characters in games, so having someone just hit me (i.e. use force against me) and not being able to retaliate in kind would irritate me to no end.
If you've played the Jedi Knight story arc, on Alderaan when the security guards (police?) tried to arrest me for a murder I did not commit, I gladly and without regret chose the dark side option to literally kill them all.
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Getting smacked once in a while would be hilarious.
This would actually bother me unless I had the opportunity to shoot them afterwards.
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The first time he exhibited this behaviour he wasn't in passive ever, at all.
I started doing the passive/unpassive thing just to eliminate the possibility of out of range, after he'd already exhibited the behaviour and let me die.