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There are actually quite a few others. There are a bunch of near-human races that would work just fine. Zeltron, Echani, and Arkanians are mentioned repeatedly. There's also Chagrians (Lt. Rusk), who could be made off of the template used for Togruta. Mon Calamari would work. Devaronians would work. Duros and Neimodians would work, too, though I admit the voices might feel wrong (though both species could speak Basic).
Well, I did say actually in game.
Zeltrons, Echani, and Arkanians are mentioned but as far as I recall aren't actually in the game. However, I can't believe I forgot Chagrians and Devaronians, especially since I was just thinking about playable Devaronians the other day. Of course, female Devaronians would basically look like female Cathar ... but then we have Humans, Miraluka, Mirialans, and Chiss so I suppose that's not a big concern. I think Mon Cals, Duros, and Nemoidians are too far from the human ideal to be feasible frankly, though I wouldn't mind seeing it happen. Though if we were to go in that direction, again I'd like Sullustans. -
That's frankly a terrible argument. "Since obviously someone would come to my house and put a gun to my head and force me to roll that race, they can't include any races that would be 'weird' for a completely optional (romance) part of a completely optional (companion story) part of the game!"
You're literally saying that Bioware has the obligation to prevent you (and everyone else) from doing things you consider dumb and disruptive to the story. Rather than, I dunno, just personally choosing not to do it.
In that case all Dark Side options should be removed from Republic classes, and romances should be removed from Jedi, as well as all Light Side options from the Empire.
Also, Cathar need to be removed like, yesterday. I don't see Princess Leia making out with her cat.
"The Princess Leia Test" or whatever other nonsense just seems like an excuse for Bioware to be lazy. Why put in the work for interesting alien species when you can just make minor color and model tweaks to a regular human and call it a day?
You guys can hate that reasoning all you want, or call it lazy, or whatever. And maybe you're right. But it doesn't matter because that isn't some person guessing why Bioware won't do it. That is Bioware's actual, official stance. Shortly after launch they came out and said "it ain't happening." Well, more accurately they flat out said the Princess Leia test or whatever you want to call it is the official reason (alongside any potential lack of speaking Basic issues) that you will never see Wookiees, or Trandoshans, or Rodians or whatever as playable. They have to be able to speak Basic, they have to conform to the current player body type models, and they have to look reasonably human enough in the face that players can imagine a romance with them. It doesn't matter if you don't care about the romance part, Bioware does.
The only species currently in the game that conforms to all three of those requirements, and does not horrifically violate the game's story by being made playable (ie Voss and whatever Nadia's people are) that I can think of are Togruta and Nautolan. We're already getting Togruta this year. Nautolan honestly might even be stretching it too far, which is a shame since I'd love for them to be playable. Hell, I'd love Rodians and Sullustans to be playable. But it's not going to happen.
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You mean on Rishii? Yeah, I get that too. It's very odd.
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So it's not just me then? And here I am running a repair scan. *Sigh* Yeah, so much for trying to get the most out of my slot machine before the nerf hits.
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Yeah, on my sorcerer that's the first I've gotten to Belsavis with since 3.0 came out (which I believe is around when this all started), it got so bad I just gave up on the planet somewhere between 1/3 and halfway through and just bothered with my class quests so I could leave. And I hate doing that because I like being pretty overleveled for each world and I was like one level ahead for most of Voss as a consequence. But I just couldn't take the lag anymore.
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This is a new thing with the Discipline system. The developers haven't figured out how to have a discipline outright replace one ability with another, so their placeholder is the shared cooldown. So anytime you have a discipline given ability that states it shares a cooldown with one of your existing abilities, you are meant to use the discipline power instead, because they are always a better version.
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I just did this mission this morning on my merc, twice. I didn't even think about sending Mako off, so yeah that was probably part of the problem. First time everyone attacked me at once and I died quick. Second time, the woman attacked me but everyone else attacked Mako, so I managed to get off the platform and away. Mako died pretty quick, but it seems the others turned on each other instead of me after that. By the time I had finished with the woman and gone back up, only the sole human opponent remained.
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Ahh, the EU. The same EU that gave Star Wars the "zombie stormtroopers."
It's not quite EU since Lucas (and his daughter) work on the series.
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If you're referring to Keyan Farlander, that was X-Wing. I can't remember the TIE Fighter main character being Force sensitive. :/
The TIE Fighter guy gets the opportunity to join the Emporer's Hand if you do well enough in missions. I *think* only Force Sensitives were allowed in Palpatine's Hand.
edit: Yeah, he was definitely Force Sensitive:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_TIE_Fighter
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Maarek_Stele
sidenote: GoG or Steam needs to get the full series dammit.
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^This
Whats happening in the movies are canon, not spin offs like this. I mean Anakin and Obi Wan have fought Grievous countless times in the animation series yet in Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan, Anakin and Grievous seem to meet for the first time. Where Greivous says to Anakin that he thought someone with his reputation to be a little older, where Anakin replies; Grievous your shorter than i expected. There are also other things that happen in Revenge of the Sith that they didnt know about, that seems to happen to them often in the Animation series.
If it didn't happen in the movies it didnt happen at all.
Thats my opinion.
George Lucas' opinion disagrees with your opinion, since it's his opinion that The Clone Wars are canon.
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Sith Purebloods are one of the backbones of Sith Empire society.They personally want revenge againts the republic for destroying their ancient empire and 98%(?) of their race.How can you be ok with a Sith Pureblood jedi knight of the republic.The whole thing screams - IMPOSSIBLE,but it will be, simply because of the legacy mechanic.
I perfectly well know that Miraluka are not blind and can see,i also know how they can see.They are a mystical race.Everyone is very force sensitive.Being a force sensitive and a powerful at that does not make you automatically a part of the jedi order.Jedi order is mostly about adhering to an ideal.There are many powerful force users that are not part of neither the sith nor jedi.
I am not saying every Miraluka should be part of the Sith or Jedi order,but i can't imagine any miraluka lowering herself to being a smuggler.Not only it is ridiculous,but a force sensitive miraluka,does not need to be a trooper or smuggler.They can be more successful as a force user.
What makes you think Miraluka that are not jedi are not trained in the force?This would be kinda dumb,given the fact their whole race is force sensitive.in fact i imagine there is a school subject for them entirely dedicated to force using.Being trained to use the force,does not mean you are jedi or any organisation for that matter.Some of them simply chose to be part of that order.
With Force sensitivity comes a world view that kinda excludes life career as a smuggler or bounty hunter ,in my humble opinion.
I'm ok with Pureblood non-Sith because it makes sense. I've explained why. Lost colonies, turn-coats, kidnapped babies, social experiments, whatever.
And Miraluka are not lowering themselves when becoming non-Force Users. They are doing what every normal person does - getting a job! Being a Jedi or Sith is not the be-all end-all goal of everyone. Including Force Sensitive people. Plus non-Force Using Miraluka is canon. And again, as I've already stated, there are several characters IN-GAME that are Force Sensitive that are not Force Users. And don't want to be Force Users. Being Force Sensitive does not automatically change your world view.
Hell, Mara Jade was an Imperial Agent with a few Force tricks until Luke convinced her to train. The main character in TIE Fighter is a Force Sensitive pilot that never undergoes training. Miralukan society could not function if every member of their species had the same attitude as you, because none of them would ever work in any sort of job.
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Some kind of individual cases maybe.Some sith pureblood turned to the light/became jedi and forgot what the jedi and the republic did in the Great Hyperspace war.ok 1 in a million,it is possible.
But being a playable class/race combination is different and kinda wrong.Imagine coming to Tython with that little ship and every1 greets you ,'' oh hi padawn,the flesh eaters are atacking us,pls help us please''and you being a red Sith.Realy?Srsly?
You're greeted on Tython by council members and your future masters. ie The exact people who would be most understanding of odd species popping up. And the majority of the rank and file have never even seen a Pureblood before. They might not even know what one is. And as several different questlines show, the Jedi Council usually believes anyone willing to make the effort is worth consideration.
So yes, seriously.
Also,how can a Miraluka be a non force user?Every other class and race combination is ok .But these 2...
And now it's my turn. Seriously? You don't understand how that's possible? Ok, look, Miraluka can see. Ok? They. Can. See. Sure, they use the Force to see, which means every single member of their species is Force Sensitive. Being Force Sensitive is not, I repeat is not the same thing as being a trained Force User. Just because you are Force Sensitive it does not mean you are automatically a Jedi or Sith, or any other trained user.
Otherwise the entire Miralukan population would be Jedi, and then we'd have millions and millions of Jedi, if not billions, instead of the few thousand there are supposed to be. Instead, the vast majority of the 100% Force Sensitive Miraluka population belong to professions that have absolutely nothing to do with the Force.
The Jedi do not automatically kidnap every Force Sensitive person and make them train. They leave that choice up to the person or parent. If that person/parent says no, that person never gets trained, and goes on to be a Force Sensitive anything else.
The Sith do kidnap every Force Sensitive they find on their worlds to send to Korriban, but it's made clear several times they don't always succeed. One of the Imperial Agent's companions is Force Sensitive, and is not a Force User. Same for the Smuggler. Though that one did get training, he flunked out. There's even a quest on Tython where the LS decision causes a guy who was training to be a Jedi to flunk out, and never become a Jedi. Despite being Force Sensitive.
If it bothers you so much, just choose a Force Power as your Heroic Moment unlock for a non-Force Using class Miraluka. Or, you know, don't play them.
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Maul isn't the first Dark Sider to be bisected and managed to keep himself alive purely through hate.
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That's irrelevant to the game universe though. There were Neanderthals in France 20,000 - 30,000 years ago. That doesn't mean there'd be any walking around downtown Paris this year.
Actually, those big hulking guys that everyone mockingly call neanderthals in real life are probably displaying recessive neanderthal traits. And at any rate, it is completely relevant, because it shows that there were at one point Sith living places other than Korriban, pre-Sith Order. Which means Purebloods that came from interbreeding don't have to have come from the Sith Order - maybe they came from some temporarily lost colony world instead.
Yes, yes, purebloods were created through alchemy. That was when Star Wars was anti human/non-human hybrids through natural means. They no longer seem to follow that restriction.
that kind of stupid nonsense is what made me quit wow in the first place,please don't do that,don't destroy the game and its lore.
There is no way IN HELL,EVER,EVER that a pureplood can be part of the republic and a jedi at that.
Please dont do it.
Ok miraluka can be a sith,but comon, a pureblood can't be any Republic class,dont do it ,its just ... wrong.
Except of course for the fact that there can be pureblood jedi, there are pureblood jedi, and so there will be pureblood jedi.
Also, Miraluka are not blind. They have no eyes. There is a difference. They can see perfectly fine, they can even read and use a weapon's scope.
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Except does it say anywhere else that the father was human? Sometimes the wiki can be wrong, and since fans could edit the wiki they could go under the assumption that it was a human because of just the episode.
The Character Encyclopedia is what says it. Wookiepedia is referencing that. And apparently the Character Encyclopedia is canon.
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The children were adopted by Cut. HOWEVER, according to Wookiepedia, which references the Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia as the source, the children did in fact have a human father.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Suu_Lawquane
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_Character_Encyclopedia
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How is it canon? It completely ignores the happenings between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. It's a spin-off. Anyways I believe that was non-canon as well.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Maul
Scroll down to the Non-canon section.
It's canon because Lucas says it is. Anything Lucas says is canon is canon. Especially if he works on it. And he works on The Clone Wars, at least with plot ideas.
And there have been at least four Jedi that used red sabers - Adi Gallia, Leia, her daughter Jaina, and Mara Jade. Though I think some sources call the last one magenta. Close enough.
and the big point was "Red is not my color"Red is not my color is not the same thing as I can't or shouldn't use red.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure sleeping with Vette's sister automatically ends any chance of a relationship with Vette. That's what I've read anyways.
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Some what happened to sith 'purebloods' after the rule of two came along, did they just all go extinct?
They theoretically are already going extinct at this time. The Rule of Two has nothing to do with it, just genetics. The original Sith species apparently goes extinct because they spent more time breeding with humans than Sith, and once there are no more full bloods to breed with, Purebloods would have to breed exclusively with other Purebloods to maintain the race, and of course that doesn't happen.
It's supposed to be something of a recessive trait, so even two full humans could have a Pureblood child, but it becomes increasingly rarer.
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Let's see:
1) They're called imperials because they're part of an Empire. Revan and Malak just had a Sith order, not an empire. And this empire predates Revan's Sith.
2) It's supposed to make you think of the movie imperials, just like the Trooper armor is supposed to make you think of clone/storm troopers. They wanted movie only people to have recognizable stuff.
3) Humans are everywhere. They've got colonies everywhere. And the Sith empire was founded by humans that took control of and later interbred with the Sith species. They've had around 2000 - 3000 years out in the Unkonwn Regions by themselves - that's a loooooong time. More than long enough to populate a number of UR planets with humans. It's also a point that gets mentioned in-game - the Sith species and the Purebloods are dying out. It's a recessive trait.
4) Technology plateaus out after a certain point. It gets to the point where there are only minor advances in tech. That's a real world not-Star Wars related theory. That's the logical in-story reason to explain why out of story they decided to make things look like the movies/cartoon.
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The first line
The first line doesn't mean what you think it means.
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Actually, at some point between the game's timeline and Bane creating the Rule of Two, there was a period where the Sith did in fact control most of the galaxy.
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Yeah, there are at least two other blue skinned near human species - Wroonians and Pantorans. Lucas' character was originally a Wroonian until he was retconned to the newly created Pantoran for TCW. Wroonians originally come from the Marvel comics and WEG RPG.
Also, even with their advanced storage tech, a LOT of stuff gets forgotten over the centuries/millenia. I mean, just look at this game with how little even your Jedi PCs know about Revan's fight against Malak, and that was only 300 years.
By the time of Palpatine's empire people may know of the major beats, like the basics of the Great Hyperspace War, but they've forgotten the details.
Zeltrons, Echani, and Arkanians are mentioned but as far as I recall aren't actually in the game. However, I can't believe I forgot Chagrians and Devaronians, especially since I was just thinking about playable Devaronians the other day. Of course, female Devaronians would basically look like female Cathar ... but then we have Humans, Miraluka, Mirialans, and Chiss so I suppose that's not a big concern. I think Mon Cals, Duros, and Nemoidians are too far from the human ideal to be feasible frankly, though I wouldn't mind seeing it happen. Though if we were to go in that direction, again I'd like Sullustans.
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