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    Help me choose...Jug Or mar?

    in Combat Styles

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    So I want to role a new character and I want to to toll a Sith warrior... BUT I can't decide which adv class to chose from...

     

    I'm leaning towards Jug for the heavy Armour look and lets face it, duel weiding any weapon makes you look like a tool.

     

    But I mainly PvP and not really into end game PvE, and Maras seem to just **** Jug's in every aspect of PvP, is this really that true? Am I gimping myself for nor chosing Jug over mara?

     

    It depends on what you want to be doing in PVP. If you want to be DPSing and taking guys down, then Mara's your man, sure. Mind you, they have their downsides from what Iv'e been reading, like having *no ranged capacity at all*.

     

    But Juggernauts have their own advantages, to be sure. Don't forget how taunts work in PVP now. A good juggernaut will be absolutely unkillable and indispensable.

    Rolling a Warrior: Have questions!

    in Combat Styles

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    I am thinking of rolling a warrior sometime after the Legacy patch goes live and have been for some time. I'm still as of yet undecided on which advanced class I want to pursue and I have a number of questions I could use answered, specific to me, that might help me make an informed decision.

     

    I've been playing MMOs a long time. I did a long tour of duty as a tank in WoW with a warrior. What I've read has given me the impression that the Juggernaut class plays quite a bit like that. While I like the idea of being able to tank, I am concerned that the Juggernaut class might wind up feeling a little too similar to one of my prior vocations in a way that might actually hinder my enjoyment of it. That, and I am not sure I really want to tank again. On the other hand, the Marauder *only* has DPS options, and I've a feeling there's going to be a glut coming 1.2.

     

    In short, I'm wondering is: Is the Marauder a more *mechanically* interesting class to play of the two?

    SI story was disappointing (minor spoilers)

    in Combat Styles

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    Who said anything about being college educated?

     

    Just not mindlessly spamming the spacebar as fast as you can, slow down, read, and think about what and why people are doing what they are doing.

     

    Some people don't read between the lines. That said, there's still plenty of flaws in the SI storyline when it comes to exposition about some of these things.

    SI story was disappointing (minor spoilers)

    in Combat Styles

    Posted

    If you have to be a Sociology major to not think the story is stupid, it's pretty bad.

     

    Sorry to burst your bubble.

     

    Like I said. I have my own problems with the SI storyline. That it isn't as clear at getting across what it needs to is one of them.

     

    That said, I think Thanaton's hypocracy is pretty obviously one of his defining character traits, from Blood of the Empire to now. :p

    SI story was disappointing (minor spoilers)

    in Combat Styles

    Posted · Edited by Tendrin

    What crimes would those be? Killing her own former master Skotia? As in the "crime" that Thanaton himself promoted her to Darth after? And even if he meant some other crimes (this was never well explained) then again, why did he promote her to Darth? Or did he just magically find out about these the day after he did that?]

     

    That she was promtoed to Darth is also part of the tradition. There was no *immediate* proof, though everyone knew Zash was behind it. But it's n

     

    Oh and by the way didn't Thanaton kill him own master before he became a Darth? Point is that they try to portray him as someone who is beholden to duty and tradition and is acting out of that but the underlying tradition has no internal consistency.

     

    So maybe next time you should pay a bit of attention and actually think critically about whether or not a plot contradicts itself before giving your condescending "herp derp Thanaton didn't really want to kill you, it's the law" response.

     

    Aww. I think your feelings got a little more hurt than I'd intended to. Not that I intended to hurt them at all -- but its clear you didn't actually scratch even a little beneath the surface on some of the things Thanaton actually said. So let me make it a little more clear for you.

     

    This is the most important part of it all: Thanaton is a hypocrite. A huge one. That his actions are in direct contradition of his stated beliefs is not exactly super surprising. He demonsrtrates his capacity for intense hypocracy several times through the stories, nor do many other Sith seem to share this view of the world with him.

     

    Thanaton is, yes, a hypocrite. He's a slavishly devoted to Sith traditions, especially when they're convenient to him, and is perfectly willing to find excuses to shun them when they're not. He honestly wants you to die because you're part of the legacy of Zash. Zash, incidentally, whose obvious murder of his own minion in Skotia (who worked for Thanaton, recall) *made him look bad*. It's not just the law. It's pretty clear, when he talks about several times how 'A Sith that can't protect his own powerbase isn't any kind of Sith at all".

     

    When Zash murdered Skotia, through you, explicitly countermanding Thanaton's direct orders to her, it *made him look bad*. That's the real reason he was plotting to get rid of Zash (something Zash and you take care of for him) and the reason he's getting rid of you. It's not just the 'law' (recall, incidentally, that the power bases of other Sith are destroyed during Sith internecine warfare on a regular base and that this fact is actually mentioned in several codexes) but also a matter of personal pride. You made Thanaton look bad. You made people doubt his capacity to maintain order amongst his underlings and to protect his own powerbase. That Zash did it in a highly sloppy and disrespectful way to him personally is just salt on the wounds that you're a constant, nagging reminder of. All the conservatism and crying about the law and more is really just garbage hiding his real motivation: a desperate fear of being seen as weak. It really -isn't- personal for him, at least at the start, but as long as you're alive, you're a living reminder of his own weakness and his own fear of being *seen* as weak by the others.

     

    Its this fear that drives him, as fear drives all Sith. I mean, it's the chief passion they rely on as part of the Dark Side. :p

     

    That he ultimately makes the same kind of move on his own superior that Zash did on Skotia only shows the depths to which his hypocracy sinks. It's okay when *he* does it. But it's not okay when its disrespectful to *him*.

     

    Anyways, like I said: There are plenty of problems in this story. Thanaton's motivations aren't one of them, nor are his justifcations for killing you. They're not explicitly stated as clearly as they perhaps could be, but it *is* there, beneath the surface.

     

    I've got my own beefs with the SI story, though.

    SI story was disappointing (minor spoilers)

    in Combat Styles

    Posted

    There's a reason the other Sith aren't super sympathetic to Thanaton's crusade, you know. Moreover, he's actually hunting you for Zash's crimes, not your own. He actually pretty clearly feels bad about doing what he feels he has to in killing you.

     

    I'm not saying the storyline is above complaints. There's a fair bit there to gripe about that wasn't perfect -- but some complaints would be solved if people actually paid attention to what people re doing and why in the storyline.

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