Krenum Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The first couple of weeks it was fine with the occasional 50 in the warzones. But, as of now most of the queues I get in it's mostly 50's with PvP gear that even the scale up does very little against. In Hutt ball a couple 50's can grab it and just march down the field (and through the fires) and no one can do anything about it. Sure you can CC or knock them in the pit but it doesn't stop them, just delay's the inevitable. Right now PvP is just annoying at low levels from all the 50's, please put them in their own queue. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannic Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This is one of those solutions that will have unintended consequences. Enjoy your 45 minute wait to get into a Warzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotmikelima Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This is one of those solutions that will have unintended consequences. Enjoy your 45 minute wait to get into a Warzone. I have to disagree, I think one of the reasons people are avoiding PvP right now isnt just the latency issues, but the simple fact that unless your lvl 50 with PvP gear. Your nothing more then cannon fodder. I myself tried PvP not too long ago and was completely turned off by the fact that I was facing off against enemies I had no hope of defeating at my lowly level. No matter how high my health tiered up. Without the Gear, and the abilities. I was a sitting duck unable to appropriately defend myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecinev Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I have to disagree, I think one of the reasons people are avoiding PvP right now isnt just the latency issues, but the simple fact that unless your lvl 50 with PvP gear. Your nothing more then cannon fodder. I myself tried PvP not too long ago and was completely turned off by the fact that I was facing off against enemies I had no hope of defeating at my lowly level. No matter how high my health tiered up. Without the Gear, and the abilities. I was a sitting duck unable to appropriately defend myself. Indeed, there is little point doing PvP at low levels as you have little chance against the 50s that are currently in Warzones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrage Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I don't know how warfronts ended up in-game like this. This is the kind of mistake that we would have forgiven back in the early 2000s. It's 2012. Why are level 10s going up against level 50s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) I don't know how warfronts ended up in-game like this. This is the kind of mistake that we would have forgiven back in the early 2000s. It's 2012. Why are level 10s going up against level 50s? Because BioWare thought it would be a good idea to use the bolster mechanic once used in Warhammer. Thing is, the Warhammer 'scenarios' were in level brackets of 10, so you were only ever up against people 10 levels above you. Going up against people 40 levels above you is just not going to work. Even in Warhammer when there was smaller brackets it was usually the case that the team with the most higher levels in won, so I don't know why they ever thought it could be different in TOR when you have no level bracket at all. Edited January 1, 2012 by Mandrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AERHAE Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I have to disagree, I think one of the reasons people are avoiding PvP right now isnt just the latency issues, but the simple fact that unless your lvl 50 with PvP gear. Your nothing more then cannon fodder. I myself tried PvP not too long ago and was completely turned off by the fact that I was facing off against enemies I had no hope of defeating at my lowly level. No matter how high my health tiered up. Without the Gear, and the abilities. I was a sitting duck unable to appropriately defend myself. Agreed It just seems that the engineering disign was either over thought out and too much thought was put into it.Or there is a lack of understanding of PVP mechanics on a basic level somewhere dureing drafting design/development of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scfs Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This is one of those solutions that will have unintended consequences. Enjoy your 45 minute wait to get into a Warzone. Uh what? Pretty sure the OP would still have instant queues, and the 50's would have the long wait >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kricys Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 There most likely will be a 50 only bracket, in 6 months when 50 is the largest bracket. There is no need to inconvenience us with long queues. We have nowhere to go, we're 50. You can always level up, hit 50 and stop complaining.What's funny is once they do put in a 50 bracket, all the non 50's will complain about long queues since the majority of the population will be 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltAU Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I have to disagree, I think one of the reasons people are avoiding PvP right now isnt just the latency issues, but the simple fact that unless your lvl 50 with PvP gear. Your nothing more then cannon fodder. I myself tried PvP not too long ago and was completely turned off by the fact that I was facing off against enemies I had no hope of defeating at my lowly level. No matter how high my health tiered up. Without the Gear, and the abilities. I was a sitting duck unable to appropriately defend myself. I absolutely agree, i am level 24 and joined a game yesterday with 8 level 50s, and 2 others that were in their 40s. I could not wait to leave the match. I won't be pvping again, considering its all I really did in WoW thats a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slooth Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This many players wont be level 50 ever again. Most players will be level 50 in a few weeks. I wouldn't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kricys Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I absolutely agree, i am level 24 and joined a game yesterday with 8 level 50s, and 2 others that were in their 40s. I could not wait to leave the match. I won't be pvping again, considering its all I really did in WoW thats a problem. Good because you make the match less enjoyable for the 50's. It's annoying having to carry people on the team when you need your daily quest for wins done. Quest, get to 50, be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AERHAE Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Good because you make the match less enjoyable for the 50's. It's annoying having to carry people on the team when you need your daily quest for wins done. Quest, get to 50, be useful. All the more reason for a change,looks like SOME of the level 50s are more concerned with winning then helping their faction to be better then what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronepilot Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Well on a similar note I agree. in non warzones just do your quests, and get to lvl 50. Then do PvP. use some discretion here. Its not fun seeing people being used as fodder because they are low levels, nor is this fun. Nothing heroic about beating on the little guy. just a thought. Because there are no current restrictions on what levels can challenge who, and really there should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishmashmoo Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 1+ for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoling Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You guys realize the point of the current system is so level 50s don't have very long queues. 50s aren't joining low level matches, low levels are joining level 50 matches. If you don't like going up against level 50s in pvp try going and leveling your character and hitting 50 yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kricys Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You guys realize the point of the current system is so level 50s don't have very long queues. 50s aren't joining low level matches, low levels are joining level 50 matches. If you don't like going up against level 50s in pvp try going and leveling your character and hitting 50 yourself. This guy gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kricys Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 All the more reason for a change,looks like SOME of the level 50s are more concerned with winning then helping their faction to be better then what they are. We don't have to be concerned with winning. 2.5k and 5k hit, 75k and 300k damage, 1v1, killing blow, 10 kills, 25 kills, rakata medpac 2.5k and 5k heal. Just about every match I get 10 medals. More than enough coms for me won or lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHouse Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I have to disagree, I think one of the reasons people are avoiding PvP right now isnt just the latency issues, but the simple fact that unless your lvl 50 with PvP gear. Your nothing more then cannon fodder. Being lvl 50 is a crutch for people who don't have top of the line computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFrog Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Due to the little number of 50s we have on each server atm I don’t think it’s the best to implement it know (unless they add cross server PVP warzones) but this definitely needs to be added in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezit Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Agree with this post more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AERHAE Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 We don't have to be concerned with winning. 2.5k and 5k hit, 75k and 300k damage, 1v1, killing blow, 10 kills, 25 kills, rakata medpac 2.5k and 5k heal. Just about every match I get 10 medals. More than enough coms for me won or lose. You just said you dont like to carry people under 50 now your saying your not concerned with winning. Just stop,just stop right there,im not stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaed Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 You guys realize the point of the current system is so level 50s don't have very long queues. 50s aren't joining low level matches, low levels are joining level 50 matches. If you don't like going up against level 50s in pvp try going and leveling your character and hitting 50 yourself. So the point of the current system is low levels joining matches so 50's don't have long queues, but low levels shouldn't be joining warzones at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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