Champion bags, tell me how you feel.

[scfs]

This is the worst part of PvP. I only just got started, but no loot whatsoever after 8 bags, just freaking tokens which I will be too afraid to spend out of fear that I'm getting exactly what I need the moment I open the next bag.

 

My suggestion: add a +X to the chance of a player getting a token after not having received one yet (like in party chat options) and a -X to the chance of it being the same item as the one you got before.

 

ps: worst part is that 3/4 of the people who get most items are also the worst players skillwise.

 

don't expect loot out of the bags. The loot is a bonus, the bags are there for commendations.

After you get even half your pvp set built, half the items you get from the bags will be worthless anyways.

[pryt]

This is NOTHING compared to what it took to gear up in Aion for.

 

Don't be in such a rush to reach the end game PvP gear - once you have it then warzones will become meaningless and you will give up playing.

 

Doesn't matter how long it took in AION or whereever, all these MMOs are nothing compared to what it took to get geared in Everquest I or DAoC or whatever, especially in the first few YEARS.

 

 

Anyways: it's annoying and no fun at all to get the same items again and again. You already got that light saber? Here, got two more for you, identical, you will love them! See the issue? You usually invest time and get a USEFUL result, here you invest time and get junk. This draws away all those people that got a very limited free time to play a game, those with a full time job, family and other real life related 'issues', and those that actually pay more per minute of playtime than anyone else, since they do not have that much time.

 

That RNG should keep track of WHAT items or schematics (re-engineering related) I already got and NOT give me that item twice (except relics/weapons for dual wield users). Simple, isn't it? Just to prevent getting items more often than useable. It would be ok if they would be tradeable, but they are BoP.

[Enervate]

40+ bags, 4 champion pieces. Take a note BioWare, RNG loot is one thing on boss fights, it's quite another on bags you have to endlessly farm and can possibly contain nothing.

[RevenanceSLC]

32 bags, 6 pieces. No lightsaber. Had to buy my lightsaber with 120 centurion marks. Overpriced considering some people get it for free.

[Jackalrat]

I am valor rank 56. I have 3 pieces.

 

RNG in PvP rewards? Sucks 50 ***** and not a dick less.

[dakovach]

worst system I have ever seen tbh...its just totally retarded system.

 

I have opened 15 bags, gotten 1 offhand so far, thats it

[iThrax]

Make each piece cost 20k commendations... I don't care.

 

RNG is ****.

[Enaver]

34 bags.

 

1 earpiece.

[kaesebreze]

About 90 bags...

 

23 Tokens, out of those 23, 14 are either banked or companion gear.

[QuimboQuambo]

22 bags, 1 headgear and 1 pants...

 

My friend opened 20 has only one piece missing. RNG ftw...

Edited January 7, 2012 by QuimboQuambo

[Grunergeist]

Bunch of whiny wow kids.

 

How freakin fast do you want full gear before you start whining about NOTHING TO PVP FOR??????

 

You get centurion gear - be happy with that.

 

There is a small chance of getting champion gear - be extra happy if you are lucky.

 

 

This is NOTHING compared to what it took to gear up in Aion for.

 

Don't be in such a rush to reach the end game PvP gear - once you have it then warzones will become meaningless and you will give up playing.

 

Then make it like that for everyone.... Not just the unlucky people. I guarantee you if it took forever to get the gear for EVERYONE not nearly as many people would be complaining.

[Bekkrah]

The worst part about it in my opinion is that they totally removed all of the level 50 blue PvP starter gear from the game. I have been grinding PvP for about a week to get this gear because it contains the statistic "expertise". The blue set is not as good as the champion gear but it at least gave a pre-50 player something to grind for and look forward to equipping at level 50. Being able to save up for this gear gave me more of a reason to PvP (besides the fun factor) prior to 50.

I wasn't even able to acquire at least half a set before they ripped it from the game. The reason I wanted this blue PvP set was because of all the bad luck I had been hearing about, concerning the purple champion bags. I wanted to at least have a set of gear with expertise on it by the time I hit 50, (I'm 47 at the moment). I figured that I could at least somewhat hang with the players that were decked out in champion gear due to the expertise stat alone.

Boiware's decision to remove the blue gear was just another slap in the face especially considering the lame RNG system that's in place now concerning the champion bags.

Bioware you, guys are off to a really bad start with this whole PvP thing. Get is together please.

[Rhyltran]

Bunch of whiny wow kids.

 

How freakin fast do you want full gear before you start whining about NOTHING TO PVP FOR??????

 

You get centurion gear - be happy with that.

 

There is a small chance of getting champion gear - be extra happy if you are lucky.

 

 

This is NOTHING compared to what it took to gear up in Aion for.

 

Don't be in such a rush to reach the end game PvP gear - once you have it then warzones will become meaningless and you will give up playing.

 

No. You're trying to hide the fact that you're only talking about yourself. How fast do you want to be geared? You want the system to remain the same because you like your lucky drops. You don't want to actually work for it like the rest of us. The system needs to be changed and your handouts need to go.

[Newbrax]

I bawt 46 bagz and got onyl 1 relik

 

I GOT LIKE 79 BAGS AND ONLY BRACERS AND EARPIECE.

 

You guys are exaggerating so badly it's ridiculous.

Edited January 7, 2012 by Newbrax

[Dreadspectre]

Fresh 50's that join this game in the next few weeks will have a lot of fun. You know why?

 

Because BioWare decided it was a good *********** idea to remove the purchasable blue level 50 PvP gear.

 

Have fun either PvE'ing all day for gear to use or going into the new 50's brackets that are coming with quest greens/lev 40 PvP gear as you grind the system and get rewarded whenever it feels like.

 

As for me, 14 bags, 3 earpieces 1 OH. It could be worse but it could be a lot better too.

[Tremk]

opened 5 and got a relic....cant complain too much but the future aint bright

[iThrax]

I bawt 46 bagz and got onyl 1 relik

 

I GOT LIKE 79 BAGS AND ONLY BRACERS AND EARPIECE.

 

You guys are exaggerating so badly it's ridiculous.

 

Negative.

 

RNG is random. Some people will get geared their first 10 bags... other's will have to open hundreds. Hence the reason it's a bad system.

[Rhyltran]

I bawt 46 bagz and got onyl 1 relik

 

I GOT LIKE 79 BAGS AND ONLY BRACERS AND EARPIECE.

 

You guys are exaggerating so badly it's ridiculous.

 

Not everyone is exaggerating. There's people who have won the lottery twice. I've been struck by lightning twice and if you look up the odds of being hit by lightning even once.. yeah. Point is as long as there's probability there's extreme results.

[Gleam]

For better or worse I seem to be taking all of the empty bags, and taking one for my guildies. So far I'm valor 54, earned 82 bags and have received 2 relics, helm, legs, 2 implants, and off hand. So, running the numbers I'm less than 1 in 10 bags. Probably the worst part is I got the helm and offhand immediately after purchasing the centurian versions. However, like I said taking one for the team as most of my guildies are hitting 1 in 4. Can't say that I havent wanted to put my head through a wall on days when the weekly missions have reset and went 0 for 11 on two separate occasions, but i guess that's the nature of the beast. Hopefully ill have better luck with battle master. Also, anyone having same issues reengineering implants, I'm in the region of 0 for 90 on getting the lvl 49 purple schematic? Hope no one has to suffer my terrible luck, bit knowing I still constantly pwn everyone of those with the gear drops helps ease my rage.

 

Gleam

[Enervate]

I bawt 46 bagz and got onyl 1 relik

 

I GOT LIKE 79 BAGS AND ONLY BRACERS AND EARPIECE.

 

You guys are exaggerating so badly it's ridiculous.

 

I did the math based on the centurion pieces I have bought and the number of centurion commendations I have. I have opened 43 bags, I have 4 pieces of loot. It's *********** stupid and not even close to an exaggeration.

Edited January 8, 2012 by Paralassa
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[cashogy]

ive opened between 20 and 30 bags, and ive gotten 5 gloves, boots, main hand and offhand weapons, earpiece, implant, and 2 relics

 

the best way to look at this situation is that until you get valor rank 60, youre opening champ bags to grind centurion comms. should the bags be renamed to reflect their true purpose? probably. once you get valor 60 youre opening battlemaster bags to grind champion comms.

 

RNG sucks, i would rather bioware had a time investment based system, but whats done is done.

 

also, if you get multiples, the mods are removable. take them out and put them in armor that you can still use. since i got 5 pairs of gloves, i know how mods and enhancements for all my other pieces of armor, putting me on par (minus the expertise) with those who have full champ gear

[DwaneDibbley]

Gime token to comms exchange option and i would be happy.

[Tycoon]

Bump.

 

Im favoriting this till a dev addresses the issue. I suggest you all do the same. I dont want to see this thread getting lost.

 

I hate the system. My story isnt as bad. I only have four peices from 37 bags. My friend, who is a lower valor rank then me, is missing only two peices from his soon to be complete set.

 

The reason this is such a issue to pvpers and not pvers (other then the obvious), is valor ranks. With valor ranks you can easly compare how long someone has been pvping to others. When people see valor rank 30s in full champ, and 50s only in 3 peice of champ, your going to get alot of very upset people. It isnt fair for someone who has spent their entire time in pvp to be less rewarded to those who only spent half the time.

 

You can not quite compare how long someone is pveing to others. I garentee it, if you could compare how long someone been pveing to other pvers, you would see just as much of an uproar among the pve crowd.

 

For now on, if you like the system, you must post how many peices of champion gear you have and your valor rank. If you dont, your post will justly be ignored.

Edited January 8, 2012 by Tycoon

[kaesebreze]

also, if you get multiples, the mods are removable. take them out and put them in armor that you can still use. since i got 5 pairs of gloves, i know how mods and enhancements for all my other pieces of armor, putting me on par (minus the expertise) with those who have full champ gear

Yeah. Yeah...

 

6 Trinkets, 3 Bracers, 3 Implants, 3 Earslots... That's so many Mods right there.

[Valnarr]

don't expect loot out of the bags. The loot is a bonus, the bags are there for commendations.

After you get even half your pvp set built, half the items you get from the bags will be worthless anyways.

 

Except that the bags are by far the best way of getting champion gear, so it really isn't a bonus.

 

The only other way to get champ gear is to get a bunch of battlemaster bags and get enough chamption tokens to buy the gear which range from 24 tokens (relic) to 123 tokens (weapon).