Skiie Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Makes me feel good knowing that keyboard turning noobs can get gear just as easily as anyone else. Why dosn't anyone want a rated system with real rewards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinity Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The problem with the bags is that they're intended to be: "This bag has commendations for Centurion gear. You MIGHT get lucky and get a piece of Champion as a bonus." But everyone looks at them like this: "This bag has Champion gear. You MIGHT get screwed and get commendations as a slap in the face." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valnarr Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The problem with the bags is that they're intended to be: "This bag has commendations for Centurion gear. You MIGHT get lucky and get a piece of Champion as a bonus." But everyone looks at them like this: "This bag has Champion gear. You MIGHT get screwed and get commendations as a slap in the face." That is because the bags are the only way to get champion gear and champion gear is just straight up better than centurion gear. So really the champion gear isn't the bonus it is the goal for people opening bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinity Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 That is because the bags are the only way to get champion gear and champion gear is just straight up better than centurion gear. It's not the only way to get champion gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathla Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I got 3 relics, 3 bracers, 2 boots, helm, gloves, ear piece, implant.. I think I'm doing well I had to buy chest and skirt, still need a belt and another implant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valnarr Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) It's not the only way to get champion gear. So about how many dailies and weeklys for battlemaster bags do you need to do then to get 1 piece of champion gear? Seeing as the cheapest one is 24 champion tokens and the most expensive is 123 champion tokens it is probably a long time. Edited January 7, 2012 by Valnarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowaceRK Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 It's just so silly. I have opened 20 champion bags and still don't have a single piece of champion gear. A guildie opened his first 5 bags today and got 4 pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misqual Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 57 bags here and sofar i only got my head and offhand. This system is totally messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repefe Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The problem with the bags is that they're intended to be: "This bag has commendations for Centurion gear. You MIGHT get lucky and get a piece of Champion as a bonus." But everyone looks at them like this: "This bag has Champion gear. You MIGHT get screwed and get commendations as a slap in the face." Pretty much this ... the bags should be called centurion bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiussat Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 After opening about 15 bags and getting an earpiece and a relic (lol) I found out my buddy that I pvp with got his pistol, offhand and 3 set pieces from 9 bags. Needless to say I wanted to punch an infant. It's a bad system all around. It's overly complex, which is always a bad design decision. One issue that confuses me is you get champion bags, but they give centurion tokens (which is the next rank up). With those tokens you buy centurion gear. Ok, I get that much. But how come there is no way to buy the CHAMPION gear you want? Why must it all be RNG generated? You can buy Centurion gear with tokens but not champion. Getting champion gear is all hit or miss luck. And how do they do battlemaster? Do you get Centurion bags that have battlemaster tokens in them and random centurion gear? If so, that means you can buy centurion and BM gear you want once you get the tokens. This is not the case with champion -- it appears to be all RNG. Just doesn't make sense to me. It would be easier to do what everyone else does: Make it so the three PvP vendors only allow you to buy from them at certain valor ranks. Make them all use the same currency (of course BM gear will be much more expensive than Champion). To me, this is simple and still makes the gear just as "difficult" and time consuming to get without making it a complex puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgamer Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'm at 3x relics. If I get one more, I'm gonna punch a nun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysdead Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I've gotten quite a bit of nice gear from these bags... first week of level 50 pvp too. /shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramurdyne Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I got garbage, lots of time put into it but no reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iThrax Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 50+ bags. 4 implants 1 relic Unsubscribed until fixed. Rank 20s should not outgear rank 58s. Stupid system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajic Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 champ bags are ok, you can atleast grind them out. Battlemaster bags, whole different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajic Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'm at 3x relics. If I get one more, I'm gonna punch a nun. im at 11 , 4 from battlemaster and the rest champ. its as cool as aids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painaid Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 It's a really, really, really dumb system. I can't believe they thought it was a good idea to base the PvP gear ladder off RNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbook Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Guess if you want balanced gear aquirement and classes you will have to go play another game... Bioware like many other mmo makers fail to appreciate that everyone pays the same for the game and thus should all expect to be treated thus..... At least in upcoming mmo's this view is taken and all participants will receive gear of equal status relevant to their class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torcer Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 After opening about 15 bags and getting an earpiece and a relic (lol) I found out my buddy that I pvp with got his pistol, offhand and 3 set pieces from 9 bags. Needless to say I wanted to punch an infant. I thought the Infant punch was over the top until I found out that the baby got a full set of gear from 10 bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caultonpos Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bunch of whiny wow kids. How freakin fast do you want full gear before you start whining about NOTHING TO PVP FOR?????? You get centurion gear - be happy with that. There is a small chance of getting champion gear - be extra happy if you are lucky. This is NOTHING compared to what it took to gear up in Aion for. Don't be in such a rush to reach the end game PvP gear - once you have it then warzones will become meaningless and you will give up playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkatog Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) This is the worst part of PvP. I only just got started, but no loot whatsoever after 8 bags, just freaking tokens which I will be too afraid to spend out of fear that I'm getting exactly what I need the moment I open the next bag. My suggestion: add a +X to the chance of a player getting a token after not having received one yet (like in party chat options) and a -X to the chance of it being the same item as the one you got before. ps: worst part is that 3/4 of the people who get most items are also the worst players skillwise. Edited January 7, 2012 by Morkatog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecutus Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'm at 3x relics. If I get one more, I'm gonna punch a nun. Opened 3 bags today, 3 relics... >.> lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekanon Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) sucks horribly chance roll sucks.. the repeat gear chance is a waste. OP you should of put up a poll so we can see the red saber grooooooooooooooooow Edited January 7, 2012 by tekanon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iThrax Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bunch of whiny wow kids. How freakin fast do you want full gear before you start whining about NOTHING TO PVP FOR?????? You get centurion gear - be happy with that. There is a small chance of getting champion gear - be extra happy if you are lucky. This is NOTHING compared to what it took to gear up in Aion for. Don't be in such a rush to reach the end game PvP gear - once you have it then warzones will become meaningless and you will give up playing. I loved Aion. Everyone was on a level playing field when it came to gear... As long as they were in a good guild and could take forts. Champion bags are lame. Centurion gear is TERRIBLE... My main complaint is that it's a luck based system. A rank 20 can out gear a rank 50 if they're lucky... Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbk_civ Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Just got my third lightsaber on my sorc. RNG loot bags are bad enough, but RNG loot bags with the chance of duplicates without a trade-in system is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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