Tamernator Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) Before BW gonna Nerf any of the classes ,we must do something , all people that are against nerfs and another WOW (every 2 months nerfs) leave here your voice please. Im not against balance , it is ok for me if BW gonna nerf any class becuz they think its OP but if they will nerf only becuz some individuals are asking for it, i will quit this game and i know many people that will do the same. If that game needs nerfs let Devs decide which one is OP becuz if they gonna listen to people they will nerf all classes and very often. there is no way to satisfy all people, there always gonna be the ones who do not agree with need of NERF or being OP. BW NERF ONLY IF YOU THINK IT IS NECESSARY (NOT FOR BUSINESS BUT FOR BALANCE) Edited December 31, 2011 by Tamernator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoylejeremy Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I am pro-nerfs. Pro-balancing in general really. Especially for a game that needs it so badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aamaretto Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I am pro-nerfs. Pro-balancing in general really. Especially for a game that needs it so badly. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarral Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Before BW gonna Nerf any of the classes ,we must do something , all people who are against nerfs and another WOW (every 2 months nerfs) leave here your voice please. Im not against balance , it is ok for me if BW gonna nerf any class becuz they think its OP but if they will nerf only becuz some individuals are asking for it, i will quit this game and i know many people who will do the same. BW NERF ONLY IF YOU THINK IT IS NECESSARY (NOT OR BUSSINES BUT FOR BALANCE) 1. It's too early to call anything "OP" yet. We need data that we don't yet have before we start saying what's what. 2. Bioware knows this. 3. I read "who are" as something else the first time 'round because it was misspelled as "wh oare." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentz Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Before BW gonna Nerf any of the classes ,we must do something , all people who are against nerfs and another WOW (every 2 months nerfs) leave here your voice please. Im not against balance , it is ok for me if BW gonna nerf any class becuz they think its OP but if they will nerf only becuz some individuals are asking for it, i will quit this game and i know many people that will do the same. BW NERF ONLY IF YOU THINK IT IS NECESSARY (NOT FOR BUSINESS BUT FOR BALANCE) ... yeah, WoW nerfs stuff cuz people complain about it and not cuz it's unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamernator Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I am pro-nerfs. Pro-balancing in general really. Especially for a game that needs it so badly. If that game needs nerfs let Devs decide which one is OP becuz if they gonna listen to people they will nerf all classes and very often. there is no way to satisfy all people, there always gonna be the ones who do not agree with need of NERF or being OP. Edited December 31, 2011 by Tamernator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knarral Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 ... yeah, WoW nerfs stuff cuz people complain about it and not cuz it's unbalanced. No, Blizzard just nerfs people because doing so either: A) suits their personal preferences (mages, rogues, Blood DKs) or B) the class begins with an h and ends with an r and has "unte" in the middle (though I understand we haven't been "nerfed" per se, we've just been broken by a fix to charge that broke disengage and otherwise haven't been changed at all when it's so obviously needed. In other words, by other classes getting better, our power has been relatively reduced, therefore we have been relatively "nerfed"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidank Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 YEAH! If your class gets nerfed, Just don't download the patch! That'll teach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphic Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 No developer nerfs a class because of a forum post. Blizzard don't, Trion don't, Mythic (as they were) didn't and BW (Mythic as they are now ) won't either. However, Blizzard's communication/handling of class balance was poor (something I thought Trion had learned from, at least in the first few patches), leading to the persistent perception of favouritism and other conspiracy theories. The best thing BW can IMO do to to prevent similar perceptions is to communicate regularly what they are doing/thinking about (without feeding speculations what changes might be incoming), but to be very slow to make balance changes. It's always worth bearing the following in mind when talking about balance: - forums are never representative, because forum activity is highly self-selecting; - devs have access to data and use metrics to determine class capability that players don't have access to. (In addition, I doubt that more than a few would have the quantitative know-how, willingness and time to draw proper conclusions from that data even if it were widely available. Which is totally fine ofc: I don't need to understand how a plane can fly to sit in one, but I also don't participate in discussions about aerodynamics.); - venting is among the less productive ways of dealing with a (real or perceived problem). L2P may be a cheap or even inconsiderate response, but it is always correct advice: you can always improve and your pvp performance will always benefit from improved skill, but forum anger will usually do absolutely nothing for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xHPx Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 OP so immature. No game including WoW balances due to community whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scelerant Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The thing is, none of us including the devs know conclusively what is OP or not. Is it OP if a level 50 sorc in epics kills off a level 14 in starter gear? Not really. The game just hasn't been out long enough for us to know which classes just have higher baseline damage, which scale a little to make up for low baseline damage and so on. Anyone calling for nerfs at this point is simply reacting out of emotion not reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medakon Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 No need to nerf anything, the game is perfect and every class can take any class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadslinger Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The main problem is the Surge stat, which is causing scoundrels and operatives to insta-gib anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamernator Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) OP so immature. No game including WoW balances due to community whining. Dont call the names , Blizzard does listen to people, thats business, if you cant satisfy all players at the same time, then satisfy them in turn every 2 months by changing OP class. So everyone will be satisfied at least 2 months in the year. you dont know many things about Blizzard. Edited December 31, 2011 by Tamernator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foenixz Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 BioWare has said time and y=time again nerfs will not be done from community QQing (ala WoW) but by their metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamernator Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 BioWare has said time and y=time again nerfs will not be done from community QQing (ala WoW) but by their metrics. Thanx for info, its good news, i hope thats true and not only the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptuno Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Here's my stance on Nerfs: http://i.imgur.com/4MzIN.jpg They taste sooo good, DON'T NERF THE TASTE! Edited January 5, 2012 by Neptuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oflow Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 No developer nerfs a class because of a forum post. Blizzard don't, ... Ya Blizzard nerfed classes because the lead developer got owned by that class and nerdraged nerfed them. (Warrior nerf after cata launch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingoperson Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I think nothing would shock Bioware more if they nerfed a class and everyone who played that class went: "NO! NO! NO! NO NERF PLS! PUT IT BACK!" etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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