ppzheng Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) MM Spec! Hardmode Soa Down! EDIT: 1/13/12 11:00AM Streaming PvP http://www.twitch.tv/lavantas I've been clearing every hard mode flashpoint for about a week and is in full purples with 5 pieces of champion gear. Come watch me tear things up . I'll be putting up guides for all the flashpoints on hard mode as well. I average about 300k damage in WZ's and consistently win 2v1 and 3v1's as Sniper. If you're looking for a few pointers, come and learn some sniper pvp basics. I don't sit up on the ledge and run away every 3 seconds either. You'll watch me go toe to toe with assassins/operatives/juggs. Edited January 13, 2012 by ppzheng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faxxon Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I don't believe you can nuke that hard due to snipers having heavy energy management. Edited December 31, 2011 by Faxxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Come watch me do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athilias Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I really appreciate the stream, since I've fallen in love with my sniper recently, but I think it should be said that it helps a heck of a lot that you are lvl 50. I know you face off against some higher level people in that too, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4223/screenshot2012010108243.jpg for the unbelievers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anelyn Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 http://www.twitch.tv/lavantas I've been clearing every hard mode flashpoint for about a week and is in full purples with 5 pieces of champion gear. Come watch me tear things up . I'll be putting up guides for all the flashpoints on hard mode as well. I average about 300k damage in WZ's and consistently win 2v1 and 3v1's as Sniper. If you're looking for a few pointers, come and learn some sniper pvp basics. I don't sit up on the ledge and run away every 3 seconds either. You'll watch me go toe to toe with assassins/operatives/juggs. I typically stream from 6pm EST until early morning EST. Kudos bro, glad you put that up, so peeps can learn how a sniper should be played. One needs to use his environment and all array of skills with good timing to be succesfull, and that my friends is an art to master with the sniper class. Play well and you will be rewarded and feared on battlefield, stay put in one place and you will come here QQing that sniper suck, everyone pawns you, you have poor mobility and crappy dmg etc :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducksmyth Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Kudos bro, glad you put that up, so peeps can learn how a sniper should be played. One needs to use his environment and all array of skills with good timing to be succesfull, and that my friends is an art to master with the sniper class. Play well and you will be rewarded and feared on battlefield, stay put in one place and you will come here QQing that sniper suck, everyone pawns you, you have poor mobility and crappy dmg etc :> I love the guys stream, he seems very helpful, informative and polite, but it is just a case of geared level 50 rolling all before them with a massive damage and survivability advantage. As a sniper you have some of the least ability to use the environment. You have the clunkiest knockback. Classes are more likely to LOS you than you are them because you are slow, can't heal, often lack a snare and generally are at advantage at range. The only environmental advantage is that a ledge is marginally better for you than another ranged class because leaps/pulls dont work on those in cover. Snipers are great for slaughtering those at a massive disadvantage because of high burst and entrench which allows you to take CC out of the picture which is the main way a lower level has any chance of beating a lvl50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex_ro Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Please explain how you get around snipe/ambush cancelling bug. I find this really class breaking especially when I try to fight a 1v1. For example i'll get a lucky stun a a guy trying to jump me from stealth with my knife then when I begin to ambush+probe for a talent knockback it stops at 2.4 sec 50% of the time essentially wasting a global on probe for no reason plus the latter cast time. Sometimes after this i'll get mad and CC shield+evasion to ambush again (as in my mind surely it cannot fail twice), and bam i waste another 4 secs by which time i try to pbaoe knockback and im usually dead cause the knockback also fails lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anelyn Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I love the guys stream, he seems very helpful, informative and polite, but it is just a case of geared level 50 rolling all before them with a massive damage and survivability advantage. As a sniper you have some of the least ability to use the environment. You have the clunkiest knockback. Classes are more likely to LOS you than you are them because you are slow, can't heal, often lack a snare and generally are at advantage at range. The only environmental advantage is that a ledge is marginally better for you than another ranged class because leaps/pulls dont work on those in cover. Snipers are great for slaughtering those at a massive disadvantage because of high burst and entrench which allows you to take CC out of the picture which is the main way a lower level has any chance of beating a lvl50. Am sorry but rolling from cover to cover is great mobility, as you roll at same speed no matter if you are snared. Least mobility? In what sense. Except sin / shadow snare which lasts for 12s with a 6s cd if talented, am not aware of any other snares or roots of such magnitude (a madness sorc / balance sage can keep you perma snared if you allow them, but why would you want to los them beats me). Please tell me about the other classes mobility, how good it is when facing a sniper? You can root them twice consecutively, from knockback root to legshot. You can use hp pots like anyone else, hybrids don't have a big edge, their heals are 30% reduced in pvp and they can be interrupted / delayed since they will lack the talents to improve that. I don't find any problems being leaped at or pulled etc. I just instantly take cover and aoe knock back em and we're back at step 1, with me already lining shots. Yes we don't have great escape mechanisms like a sin / shadow or operative / scoundrel, but we would be op with those. I really have no problem with a JK or SW leaping at me or trooper / bh pulling me in, I just take cover when I land and hand them a new one. Played earlier a hut ball with a friend PT and Op healer, at a point I had the ball, and we 3 were headed for enemy score line, got jumped by 6 enemy players, most melee backed up by 1 consular healer. We killed them all 6 without any problem. I entrenched, knockedback the melee and proceed to global the sage. The melee who trinketed / vanished the 5s root from knockback, ate the incoming flashbang, then we picked 1 by one easily. I got jumped by scoundrels and shadows, and I can safely continue to finish my target before minding them just by re-taking cover in spot to get a new stack of balistic dumpers. Then I just turn around, stun them - big mistake if they trinket, line em up with a snipe + probe into 1.5s ambush and corrosive dart. Leg shot next, go back in cover for an instant snipe, and then is takedown if they don't use anything big as defensive CD or CC me (which I will trinket depending on situation). I had smuggler flashbanging me and geting 3 heals on him, did not do him any good, all that hp went away in instant snipe and probe :> Yes if more peeps attack you and chain CC you, you will die. Nobody lives through that. The class is perfectly balanced imho. Yes peeps can blow stuff to los you, but thats fine you can decide to pursue or not, and if you do, you have plenty of options to finish them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Please explain how you get around snipe/ambush cancelling bug. I find this really class breaking especially when I try to fight a 1v1. For example i'll get a lucky stun a a guy trying to jump me from stealth with my knife then when I begin to ambush+probe for a talent knockback it stops at 2.4 sec 50% of the time essentially wasting a global on probe for no reason plus the latter cast time. Sometimes after this i'll get mad and CC shield+evasion to ambush again (as in my mind surely it cannot fail twice), and bam i waste another 4 secs by which time i try to pbaoe knockback and im usually dead cause the knockback also fails lol. I actually stopped using ambush for the most part right after a debilitate. Since I"m currently PvE specced without heavy shot, I tend to debilitate>laze snipe>follow through>cover pulse> ambush>leg shot>to more options depending on the class you fight. I have two different covers bound. One is just the kneel in place ability, the other one is rolling into cover. I use both depending on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Streaming Hard Mode flash points right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Stream's up. Streaming Hardmode EV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnew Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 great stream quality, needs some sort of sound though. All I could hear was you hitting keys, kinda boring for me tbh. Skype/vent convo, music or in game sounds pl0x <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Thanks for the feedback! I turned on vent. I didn't think people really wanted to listen to us theorycrafting and complaining about bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastaGigs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Gota ask, What are you doing to farm all those creds lol But back to topic, pretty good stream in all. Gives me more motivation to get over this hump of cannon fodder (lv44 atm and just cant do jack to all the Trooper/BH premades my server runs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Stream's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaas Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have not watched you but I cannot wait to see you in action. Can you post what your build is? Are you also going to make an you tube video's? For those of use who are off-times and can not watch you? I am only level 25 but getting owned in PvP, I really want to see how its suppose to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hello, my stream's online right now so you can catch it I run a lethality spec that's posted in my stream info in my sig. You can catch my replays as they are all recorded on twitch.tv. Just go into my profile and look at the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetehnoob Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 great stream,learned alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svelok Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Watching stream to pass time at work heh. Good stuff so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strah Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 how do you find lethality in comparison to MM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppzheng Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Very high burst when you prime a target with your two dots and weakening blast. Great mobility with 35m ranged snare. Until they fix the cover bugs, I think I will remain lethality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahilio Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Very high burst when you prime a target with your two dots and weakening blast. Great mobility with 35m ranged snare. Until they fix the cover bugs, I think I will remain lethality. So, you definitely enjoy sniper then and don't regret not choosing operative? I have a 32 sniper and am really down about it at the moment considering everyone is stomping all over them saying they are boring, repetitive, no mobility, decent DMG but other classes do just as much, so on so forth... Not sure if I should continue or just play my Juggernaut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frdrake Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Watching your stream and you're talking about people thinking sniper are UP, I totally agree if you want to only push 3 buttons this isn't the right class, I use tons of my abilities regularly and I know I would be even better if I learn the times to use the rest of them. It just is a high skill curve high reward class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakazane Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 So, you definitely enjoy sniper then and don't regret not choosing operative? I have a 32 sniper and am really down about it at the moment considering everyone is stomping all over them saying they are boring, repetitive, no mobility, decent DMG but other classes do just as much, so on so forth... Not sure if I should continue or just play my Juggernaut. SIGH, you saying this "everyone is stomping all over them", makes kittens cry!! Keep playing the class and make the decision yourself. Use what constructive things people say about the class and roll with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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