zWolf Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I saw that line in a post about PvP progression and I absolutely agree. I don't wana wander around comparing every little stat to see what is my gear progression - I want an in game sort method that works, or perhaps a Vendor that is labeled 'Gunslinger PvP gear' that has things in order by level... or if not that, at least a web site, with a list of my gear for my class in order of the way I should be getting it. Also, whats with all the 'tokens' of diffrent types that I'll need? how will I get these? how was I supposed to find out about them and how they work and what to do with them etc.? is there an in game quest? (I think not) is there anything written about it in the hefty manual I got in my game box? ... oh wait.. there wasn't one! Boggle. anyway, I'm ranting - but I'd like to sugar this with the fact that I absolutely LOVE the game. Really it's one of the best launched games that I have played. I AND my friend really like playing it. that said, the rest of the game was pretty easy to 'get' so, why make the PvP gear progression so freaking Mythical? who did that system? some one different than the rest of the game that's for sure! I don't doubt that it will be fully re-vamped to fit the rest of the games streamlined simplicity, but until that point in time, PLEASE make a Guide for gear progression. I'm a Gun Slinger - start with that please. :-p Thank you, who ever takes up this task... and for the inevitable name callers and folks that will freak out that I don't happen to have talked to that 'guy' in my guild that dug deep into the mysteries of the PvP gear and told me about it... chill. save your time making your post about how I'm the stupid one, and work on making the guide please. zWolf out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eepo Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The pvp loot system is really confusing but I'll try to explain it. Lets start with the different tiers of gear going from worst to best:- There's blue rarity gear sold for warzone commendations in Dromund Kaas and Coruscant near the class trainers- There's centurion gear sold at the fleet- champion gear also sold at fleet- and the best tier battlemaster gear also sold at the fleet Only the blue rarity gear can be bought straight with warzone commendations and for the others you need to either buy Champion Loot Bags from the PvP vendors or get them and Battlemaster Loot Bags from warzone and ilum dailies and weeklies. Champion loot bags cost 200 warzone and 200 mercenary commendations and contain either 3 centurion commendations or 1 centurion commendation and one champion equipment token which can be switched for equipment at champion gear vendor. I don't have an idea about the drop% for equipment tokens but I myself have looted 18 bags and only gotten one token so thats about 5% for me which is horrible. Battlemaster loot bags can only be opened after Valor rank 60 and contain 3(?) champion commendations or 1(?) champion commendation and a battlemaster equipment token. I haven't opened any of these yet so I'm not entirely sure about the amounts but you get the idea. There's a lot wrong with the system and you can't even see the set bonuses for the gear before buying a piece and because of this new players might end up buying the wrong piece for their class or spec. Also the randomness of the bags is plain wrong and is in no way good design no matter how someone says it's fair in an overall faction perspective. (Yes I've seen this argument.) With the farm I've done (note that its my experience, others might be luckier) it would've better for my gearing if one piece would cost 1000 warzone and 1000 mercenary commendations. That way I'd have more pieces than I have currently. In average you need to open about 10 champion loot bags to be able to buy a centurion piece with commendations and if you get lucky you get a token for a champion piece. It's not rewarding for a player and not balanced in any way as some people already have a full set of pvp gear and are rolling over warzones with their amounts of expertise. I really hope that they will change the system but while it exists I hope my post helps people to understand the way it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfpole Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The pvp loot system is really confusing but I'll try to explain it. Lets start with the different tiers of gear going from worst to best: - There's blue rarity gear sold for warzone commendations in Dromund Kaas and Coruscant near the class trainers - There's centurion gear sold at the fleet - champion gear also sold at fleet - and the best tier battlemaster gear also sold at the fleet Only the blue rarity gear can be bought straight with warzone commendations and for the others you need to either buy Champion Loot Bags from the PvP vendors or get them and Battlemaster Loot Bags from warzone and ilum dailies and weeklies. Champion loot bags cost 200 warzone and 200 mercenary commendations and contain either 3 centurion commendations or 1 centurion commendation and one champion equipment token which can be switched for equipment at champion gear vendor. I don't have an idea about the drop% for equipment tokens but I myself have looted 18 bags and only gotten one token so thats about 5% for me which is horrible. Battlemaster loot bags can only be opened after Valor rank 60 and contain 3(?) champion commendations or 1(?) champion commendation and a battlemaster equipment token. I haven't opened any of these yet so I'm not entirely sure about the amounts but you get the idea. There's a lot wrong with the system and you can't even see the set bonuses for the gear before buying a piece and because of this new players might end up buying the wrong piece for their class or spec. Also the randomness of the bags is plain wrong and is in no way good design no matter how someone says it's fair in an overall faction perspective. (Yes I've seen this argument.) With the farm I've done (note that its my experience, others might be luckier) it would've better for my gearing if one piece would cost 1000 warzone and 1000 mercenary commendations. That way I'd have more pieces than I have currently. In average you need to open about 10 champion loot bags to be able to buy a centurion piece with commendations and if you get lucky you get a token for a champion piece. It's not rewarding for a player and not balanced in any way as some people already have a full set of pvp gear and are rolling over warzones with their amounts of expertise. I really hope that they will change the system but while it exists I hope my post helps people to understand the way it works. wow. this is truly awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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