krakken Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 How can devs actualy believe that this games pvp system, which is the worst in gaming history, can live on only 3 arenas? And to beat all I cant stand huttball anymore. Its rediculous that a game cant deilver anything close to real PVP after all these years of waiting. And for the dev who tried to say this wouldnt be a cirle straff fest...well FU because thats exactly what I told you it would be over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tservo Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Or yeah at least tell us what PVP zone we've been successfully queue'd into. I'd just hit "leave queue" if i saw huttball most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingOrb Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 A: If youcve played other mmos on launch month youll see that the way things are arent that bad. In fact they are doing rather good. If your complaining about the ability reactions go to Preferences and set your que to 0.0. That pretty much fixed my sith assassin. B: i agree that being able to choose the warzones would be nice not because huttball is bad but because i get sick of it. I actualy kept track of the last 5 days of pvp and out of 64 games 42 of them were huttball. this is probably because teams fill up faster in huttball, this needs to be fixed though. C: if it bothers you that much just quit the match and rejoin. sure its rotten but people would prefer that you quit a match to jokin another rather than qq. at least i would 0.o the fact you can quit without reprercushions (cant spell this late at night lol) needs to be fixed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeopardydd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 A: If youcve played other mmos on launch month youll see that the way things are arent that bad. In fact they are doing rather good. If your complaining about the ability reactions go to Preferences and set your que to 0.0. That pretty much fixed my sith assassin. B: i agree that being able to choose the warzones would be nice not because huttball is bad but because i get sick of it. I actualy kept track of the last 5 days of pvp and out of 64 games 42 of them were huttball. this is probably because teams fill up faster in huttball, this needs to be fixed though. C: if it bothers you that much just quit the match and rejoin. sure its rotten but people would prefer that you quit a match to jokin another rather than qq. at least i would 0.o the fact you can quit without reprercushions (cant spell this late at night lol) needs to be fixed as well. jeeze, I almost never get huttball, and it's too bad because i love it. I'm Republic side, of course. I can't stand Voidstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krakken Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 A: If youcve played other mmos on launch month youll see that the way things are arent that bad. In fact they are doing rather good. If your complaining about the ability reactions go to Preferences and set your que to 0.0. That pretty much fixed my sith assassin. B: i agree that being able to choose the warzones would be nice not because huttball is bad but because i get sick of it. I actualy kept track of the last 5 days of pvp and out of 64 games 42 of them were huttball. this is probably because teams fill up faster in huttball, this needs to be fixed though. C: if it bothers you that much just quit the match and rejoin. sure its rotten but people would prefer that you quit a match to jokin another rather than qq. at least i would 0.o the fact you can quit without reprercushions (cant spell this late at night lol) needs to be fixed as well. The overwhelming majority hate huttball. Its without a doubt the worst pvp arena in the history of mmo's period. Why you are defending it makes you a very small minority. PVP needs to actualy not give any XP and you would wee the true nature of PVP. This game has literaly died over pvp issues, horrid imbalance issues, and extremely poor customer service issues. They have entirely crapped this out too early and arent really doing anything to fix it. In actuality, they need to scrap every areana in this game and put pvp in the worlds, not in little pockets that are extremely boring and repetative. The warhammer team should have never worked on this game. They ruined for warhammer pvp and killed it in this one. To be honest, I go into the pvp arenas, fight for about 1 minute, then go hide in a corner and clean up about 13k of xp. That should never be allowed to happen in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingOrb Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 jeeze, I almost never get huttball, and it's too bad because i love it. I'm Republic side, of course. I can't stand Voidstar. I never get voidstar i dont really love it with any special feelings but its a clever game mode and i apreciate it. The problem isnt in the game modes themselves, its in how the keep repeating themselves. ITS ALWAYSE HUTTBALL RAWR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingOrb Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The overwhelming majority hate huttball. Its without a doubt the worst pvp arena in the history of mmo's period. Why you are defending it makes you a very small minority. PVP needs to actualy not give any XP and you would wee the true nature of PVP. This game has literaly died over pvp issues, horrid imbalance issues, and extremely poor customer ....................................... ok first problem. The overwhelming majority does not hate Huttball. we may be sick of it but the silent majority like it. Huttball is a very good idea in my opinion but it excacerbates (i think thats the right way to spell) all the little mechanical problems still in this game. Complain about those, not the mode. Finaly ive had great succes in huttball on my server because on THE MAW (my server) the pvpers pvp all the freaking time and we are slowly but surely learning how to pass THIS MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE. This game isnt about kills as much as it is about passing the ball. Ill see if i can find a youtube match or something to show you the difference but it is there (i cant record my games otherwise id show you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krakken Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 ok first problem. The overwhelming majority does not hate Huttball. we may be sick of it but the silent majority like it. Huttball is a very good idea in my opinion but it excacerbates (i think thats the right way to spell) all the little mechanical problems still in this game. Complain about those, not the mode. Finaly ive had great succes in huttball on my server because on THE MAW (my server) the pvpers pvp all the freaking time and we are slowly but surely learning how to pass THIS MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE. This game isnt about kills as much as it is about passing the ball. Ill see if i can find a youtube match or something to show you the difference but it is there (i cant record my games otherwise id show you. Do you have a problem reading or undestanding plain english? Its overwhelmingly against huttball mainly because its just a poor mini game. PVP is only used for leveling in this game. The one thing it should never be used for. Everyperson who uses it as a leveling mechanic just proves the fact that Story doesnt hold peole in the game as bioware keeps feeding us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingOrb Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Do you have a problem reading or undestanding plain english? Its overwhelmingly against huttball mainly because its just a poor mini game. PVP is only used for leveling in this game. The one thing it should never be used for. Everyperson who uses it as a leveling mechanic just proves the fact that Story doesnt hold peole in the game as bioware keeps feeding us. Ok this started about huttball and now its about pvp leveling? And the story? ok then instead of a new topic post lets continue. It is a very well constructed minigame. The traps go off reliably and on decent timers. the apssing mechanic, while difficult to master, is fairly forgivable. you simply click the on ground thing enar someone and it works, if you pass it to the wrong person, your own damn fault. Its a skill based game, an enjoyable one, and i hope it is here to stay. On this we reach an impas, i like it you dont, and all i can say is either unsub and never come back or get better, its fun if your good. FInaly i love the story of this game. The inquisitor story line gives me such a power trip. I think the story is the best made part of coarse. That is because bioware focuses on story and does it well. This is not opinion but fact, and you will have to state some real good examples as to why its a bad story. Until you do that the story is innocent of badness until proven guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeopardydd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Do you have a problem reading or undestanding plain english? Its overwhelmingly against huttball mainly because its just a poor mini game. PVP is only used for leveling in this game. The one thing it should never be used for. Everyperson who uses it as a leveling mechanic just proves the fact that Story doesnt hold peole in the game as bioware keeps feeding us. people use it to level because if you make one way to level a lot faster than other ways, a lot of MMO players will choose the fast way, even if it is less enjoyable. they made a huge mistake making warzone leveling faster than quest leveling. they spent all that money on voice actors only to have people playing in warzone they are sick of because they can level faster that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingOrb Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 people use it to level because if you make one way to level a lot faster than other ways, a lot of MMO players will choose the fast way, even if it is less enjoyable. they made a huge mistake making warzone leveling faster than quest leveling. they spent all that money on voice actors only to have people playing in warzone they are sick of because they can level faster that way. actualy they did the math and pvp is slower. not much slower but you willr each 50 questing about a day or so before someone whose only pvping. this is because of the length of pvp games and the fact that the quests give a ******** of xp if you do them all. Id personaly rather just lvl through pvp because i play mmos to pvp. i play the story in this game only because its good, otherwise id never quest. ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_knine Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 How can devs actualy believe that this games pvp system, which is the worst in gaming history, can live on only 3 arenas? And to beat all I cant stand huttball anymore. Its rediculous that a game cant deilver anything close to real PVP after all these years of waiting. And for the dev who tried to say this wouldnt be a cirle straff fest...well FU because thats exactly what I told you it would be over a year ago. It wouldn't matter you are on sith so if you could choose anything but Huttball queue times would be an hour maybe longer...now I guess if that is ok this could be option, otherwise roll republic...this game has awesome PvP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeopardydd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) actualy they did the math and pvp is slower. not much slower but you willr each 50 questing about a day or so before someone whose only pvping. this is because of the length of pvp games and the fact that the quests give a ******** of xp if you do them all. Id personaly rather just lvl through pvp because i play mmos to pvp. i play the story in this game only because its good, otherwise id never quest. ever. weird, seems like a 10k XP warzone goes a lot faster than two 5k-6k quests. maybe I'm wrong about that, perhaps because i'm beating a lot of the quests when they are green or something. Edited December 31, 2011 by Jeopardydd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundermace Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Do you have a problem reading or undestanding plain english? Its overwhelmingly against huttball mainly because its just a poor mini game. PVP is only used for leveling in this game. The one thing it should never be used for. Everyperson who uses it as a leveling mechanic just proves the fact that Story doesnt hold peole in the game as bioware keeps feeding us. 93% of people list Huttball as their favorite warzone. I don't know where you're getting your erroneous information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingOrb Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 as to the quest xp, it picks up and drops off as you quest. some hubs are better than other. this was a big question and several people were testing this. I actualy think it was more than a day in differenvce but i cant quite remember. i just no for a fact it was more than a day because thats what sutck in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandrake Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 FFS let us pick whether we want arena or not. This is so F'ing old. 9/10 of my alts are great there. 1 sucks. and get which character gets the damn things 9/10 times. Fix this **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeraz Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 FFS let us pick whether we want arena or not. This is so F'ing old. 9/10 of my alts are great there. 1 sucks. and get which character gets the damn things 9/10 times. Fix this **** #1 Lol @ Necro #2 If you actually read the context he was complaining about Huttball, Civil War and Voidstar.. Arena "as you know it" had not yet been introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandrake Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 9/10 arena's today were revolving doors. 5 people joined and left 1 and we ended up with 2 vs 4. This is a **** mechanism to fill when groups aren't full for the bigger pvp zones. People.... your customers.. on a very large scale hate them. I am queuing UNRATED pvp. I don't want damn arenas and a lot of other people don't want them either apparently. PLEASE GIVE US A CHOICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaldoA Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 9/10 arena's today were revolving doors. 5 people joined and left 1 and we ended up with 2 vs 4. This is a **** mechanism to fill when groups aren't full for the bigger pvp zones. People.... your customers.. on a very large scale hate them. I am queuing UNRATED pvp. I don't want damn arenas and a lot of other people don't want them either apparently. PLEASE GIVE US A CHOICE. No. People will only pick maps their teams have high chance of winning on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveABABABABAB Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I was going to do a short and sweet op on this, so instead I'll just add my vote here to yours with a resounding Yes, that would be great. We all don't have the same tastes of course, and I'm one that grew very quickly to hate Huttball. But...since there isn't a preference screen with say a yes or no box next to each wz that I can check one way or another, that would exclude me from landing in a Hutball wz, I get them from time to time, then sorry, but I leave immediately. I always hated the idea of leaving a wz like that, it just seemed wrong, but I'm not going to go through 15 min or whatever of something I just don't like. Thing is...I'm not a programmer, but this really sounds like such a very simple and easy thing to fix with no downside that I can see at all. So if you could Bioware....please, pretty please...it would be much appreciated. Apparently by a whole Lot of people. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 At least we still get to leave without punishment. And I prefer the leavers to the kind of quitters who guard that one cannon with 4 peeps at 540:580 because "It's lost anyways".... GAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellenn Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Playing different wz is important for growth as a player. Why not just stick to quesh or the balconies on alderaan on a ranged class and never play other wz. You'll only learn one aspect of the class though. Being put out of your comfort zone is where you learn to overcome the deficiencies in a class. This is something all the balance qq come from. Pvp isnt something you can watch a video to learn a fight mechanic you need to play in all situations. Not just for swtor but the next game and the one after that. Edited August 21, 2014 by Tellenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locksley Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Playing different wz is important for growth as a player. Why not just stick to quesh or the balconies on alderaan on a ranged class and never play other wz. You'll only learn one aspect of the class though. Being put out of your comfort zone is where you learn to overcome the deficiencies in a class. This is something all the balance qq come from. Pvp isnt something you can watch a video to learn a fight mechanic you need to play in all situations. Not just for swtor but the next game and the one after that. Whilst i agree with what you said there, isnt choice part of playing a mmo? pvp wise you are given little choice, for a arena its either 1 or 4, what if 3 of your mates are on you cant play ranked with them... what If im not in the mood for Ancient Hypergate? why should I get thrown into something I dont want? After all I can pic and choose ops and fp's I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellenn Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Whilst i agree with what you said there, isnt choice part of playing a mmo? pvp wise you are given little choice, for a arena its either 1 or 4, what if 3 of your mates are on you cant play ranked with them... what If im not in the mood for Ancient Hypergate? why should I get thrown into something I dont want? After all I can pic and choose ops and fp's I do. They did have this in warhammer but found that certain classes only queued for maps that suited them. They changed it to having warzones rotate with the most popular ones available more often. So even if you hated a map you only had to put up with it a week at a time. swtor doesnt really have enough maps to do this which I think is part of the issue. They might not mind as much if the wz they didnt like wasnt popping all the time due to lack of variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiSotto Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I think it could be nice to have an ability to click off the 4x4 type. From a standpoint of a New & Ungeared player, seeing all you do is aggravate 3 people by pulling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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