Draewind Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 I have contacted customer service without an acceptable explanation or recovery. I was simply told "tough", submit a bug report. I did... nothing. I submitted this on the Bug Forum and got nothing from a Dev, only another player calling me a liar. Well, perhaps others have had this happen, or someone can explain to me the change that has occurred in the last few weeks. ____________________________________ I crafted a few Dark Project MK-1. The result was a few Reinforcement Modules. Reinforcement Components may have had another name prior to this. I would combine them and receive Dark Project MK-1. Now when I combine them, I receive the green Reinforcement Modules. I have spoken over and over with customer service about the issue, and I am at a loss. Are the Dark Module MK-1 items no longer used, being replaced with the Reinforcement Modules? Are my Dark Project MK-1 items going to be usable to create the items I need to open the Flagship rooms (once I figure that out???). Does the game still use Dark Project MK-1? Are they obtainable and how? If the game is now using Reinforcement Modules... ??? My guilds are not above level 50... Reinforcement Modules good for anything now? I am at a loss and confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikanor Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 here is my replay from it on your other thread so i quote it here. 4 minutes ago, Spikanor said: the reinforcement module is not a craft item and there is no schematic at all for it. its something you need to grind for. to make a reinforcement module you need first 10 reinforcement component's. to get the reinforcement component's you need to compleet the guild conquest since its a reward if your guild has compleet its target goal. also you char self most compleet its personal conquest first to get the guild reward if its has reach its goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draewind Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 (edited) The 6 Dark Projects I have, are from puting together the reinforcment components that are rewarded when a character completes the weekly conquest and the guild completes their invasion. Those no longer combine to Dark Project MK-1, but to Reinforcement Modules. I cannot craft a Dark Project MK-1; All I get are Reinforcement Modules. Part of this week's Galactic Season's Objective is crafting 5x Dark Module MK-1. I cannot! THAT IS THE PROBLEM! When I craft a Dark Project MK-1... I get Reinforcement Modules. Is no one listening or able to understand what I am saying????? I cannot create a Dark Module MK-1 by any means that was previously available to me, just a few week ago. ALL I GET ARE REINFORCEMENT MODULES!!!!!!!!!! ??????????????? Perhaps customer service was also unable to understand. Though I am 72 (retired pilot), I am not in a state of dimentia. The pictures I posted showed 6 Reinforced Modules that were created instead of Dark Project MK-1. The 6 Dark Modules in the Legacy Storage were created by combining 10 (what are now) Reinforcement Components. I did 10 of them last week and got the Reinforcement Module in the Legacy Storage next to the 6 Dark Project MK-1. I must be the only player inflicted with this! I would think it my one character, but the 10 components were put together by another of my toons. Edited October 2 by Draewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraak Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Draewind said: The 6 Dark Projects I have, are from puting together the reinforcment components that are rewarded when a character completes the weekly conquest and the guild completes their invasion. Those no longer combine to Dark Project MK-1, but to Reinforcement Modules. I cannot craft a Dark Project MK-1; All I get are Reinforcement Modules. Part of this week's Galactic Season's Objective is crafting 5x Dark Module MK-1. I cannot! THAT IS THE PROBLEM! When I craft a Dark Project MK-1... I get Reinforcement Modules. Is no one listening or able to understand what I am saying????? I cannot create a Dark Module MK-1 by any means that was previously available to me, just a few week ago. ALL I GET ARE REINFORCEMENT MODULES!!!!!!!!!! ??????????????? You don't need those. The mats needed to Craft the Dark Project are. Reinforced Isotope stabilizers (8) (Bought from the Jawa vendor in the Cartel Bazar for Blue Jawa scrap, Iokath Recombinator's (x1)(Bought from a vendor on Odessan), and Invasion Force (x1) (Crafted or purchased off of the GTN). The reinforced components from doing conquest have never been used for crafting Dark Projects. They have only ever been used to purchase guild perks. Edited October 2 by Toraak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draewind Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 I KNOW THAT. LOOK AT THE MATS IN THE FIRST PICTURE. I PUT THEM TOGETHER TO CRAFT A FEW DARK PROJECT MK-1... WHAT I RECEIVED WERE REINFORCEMENT MODULES. I know those two ways... neither work for me now. I only receive Reinforcement Modules. TAP TAP ... Is anyone listening?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcmoon Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Draewind said: I KNOW THAT. LOOK AT THE MATS IN THE FIRST PICTURE. I PUT THEM TOGETHER TO CRAFT A FEW DARK PROJECT MK-1... WHAT I RECEIVED WERE REINFORCEMENT MODULES. I know those two ways... neither work for me now. I only receive Reinforcement Modules. TAP TAP ... Is anyone listening?! The first picture just shows the crewskill window to make the Dark Projects. It doesn't show you actually crafting anything from that recipe or show that any of your companions are crafting anything at all currently. 5 hours ago, Draewind said: Reinforcement Components may have had another name prior to this. I would combine them and receive Dark Project MK-1. Now when I combine them, I receive the green Reinforcement Modules. The Reinforcement Modules are created by combining 10 Reinforcement Components recieved from the guild conquest reward. That is how it has been for a long time now. The recipe you are showing in the first picture doesn't show the Reinforcement Components as part of the recipe at all. 5 hours ago, Draewind said: I have spoken over and over with customer service about the issue, and I am at a loss. Are the Dark Module MK-1 items no longer used, being replaced with the Reinforcement Modules? Are my Dark Project MK-1 items going to be usable to create the items I need to open the Flagship rooms (once I figure that out???). Does the game still use Dark Project MK-1? Are they obtainable and how? If the game is now using Reinforcement Modules... ??? Reinforcement Modules are used for the purchase of certain perks. That is the entire purpose of them. Dark Projects are still used for purchasing other items. One of those things is the flagship encryptions. 42 minutes ago, Draewind said: Perhaps customer service was also unable to understand. Though I am 72 (retired pilot), I am not in a state of dimensia. The pictures I posted showed 6 Reinforced Modules that were created instead of Dark Project MK-1. The 6 Dark Modules in the Legacy Storage were created by combining 10 (what are now) Reinforcement Components. I did 10 of them last week and got the Reinforcement Module in the Legacy Storage next to the 6 Dark Project MK-1. If you got Dark Projects from combining Reinforcement Components then that would be the bug. They are not supposed to create Dark Projects and never have been.\ You are accusing people of not listening to what you are saying but you aren't listening to them either. I just created a Dark Project using the crewskills recipe. I recieved a Dark Project upon completion and not a Reinforcement Module. I would recommend you try again using that recipe and see what you get. Verify how many Dark Projects you have before you create it and then how many afterwards. Incase you didn't know, the Dark Projects go into the Materials storage so make sure you check there also and don't send anything before you check what you made. Even then, check the numbers in that storage before and after. If you are creating Reinforcement Modules when you shouldn't using that recipe, then you are probably bugged somehow. That would be entirely different. However, the info you have posted just tells others that you aren't clear on where Dark Projects or Reinforcement Modules come from. Edited October 2 by Darcmoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draewind Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 (edited) When I combined the Reinforcement Components previously, they did not go directly to the Materials Inventory. I stuck them in the Legacy Storage. I am glad to see that others do not have the problem. I did not bother to make a video, becuause I did not know the outcome would not be Dark Project MK-1. I thought for certain that when I combined the Reinforcement Components, that I would receive the Dark Project MK-1; as I always had. But NO. I will try to craft a Dark Project MK-1 and run a video capture. Perhaps they fixed (whatever bug I had) this morning with the update. This is why I thought perhaps they had been replaced. Both methods, each on a different character, resulted in Reinforced Modules instead of the Dark Projects. I will update with the results. The good news is that I now craft the Dark Project MK-1. I crafted 4 a couple of weeks ago and ended up with 6 Reinforcement Modules. I will never see the 4 "War Supplies: Invasion Force" items again, through disbelief. The bad news is that Reinforced Components ( I do think the name changed ) no longer create Dark Project MK-1, but Reinforcement Modules. Video below: https://youtu.be/nlcAWioc0-I Edited October 2 by Draewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraak Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 6 minutes ago, Draewind said: Then I am glad to see that others do not have the problem. I did not bother to make a video, becuause I did not know the outcome would not be Dark Project MK-1. I thought for certain that when I combined the Reinforcement Components, that I would receive the Dark Project MK-1; as I always had. But NO. I will try to craft a Dark Project MK-1 and run a video capture. Perhaps they fixed (whatever bug I had) this morning with the update. This is why I thought perhaps they had been replaced. Both methods, each on a different character, resulted in Reinforced Modules instead of the Dark Projects. I will update with the results. That is the thing. Reinforcement Components have NEVER created Dark Projects. As I posted earlier. Reinforced Isotope Stabilizers are a part of the ingredients, but not the Reinforced components you get from doing conquest. They are 2 completely different things. What your thinking of is for Guild perks, not crafting of Dark projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darev Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 27 minutes ago, Draewind said: Then I am glad to see that others do not have the problem. I did not bother to make a video, becuause I did not know the outcome would not be Dark Project MK-1. I thought for certain that when I combined the Reinforcement Components, that I would receive the Dark Project MK-1; as I always had. But NO. I will try to craft a Dark Project MK-1 and run a video capture. Perhaps they fixed (whatever bug I had) this morning with the update. This is why I thought perhaps they had been replaced. Both methods, each on a different character, resulted in Reinforced Modules instead of the Dark Projects. I will update with the results. The problem is what you are claiming is "impossible" The reinforcement rewards that you get for completing conquest, weekly, and then when you have 10 of you can combine and donate to the guild are not, and have never been, linked to crafting Dark Projects. The ONLY way I can possibly IMAGINE that what you're describing is actually happening is if your SWTOR client (the software actually installed on your computer) is either Mod'd or completely broken and what you see on your screen is not the item the game's server thinks you're using. And that is VERY unlikely. I'm very interested in seeing what happens with this video you're talking about making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikanor Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Draewind said: The bad news is that Reinforced Components ( I do think the name changed ) no longer create Dark Project MK-1, but Reinforcement Modules. i see what your problem is now. you really need to read is the TEXT is really good on the reinforcement component really good. it tells: use: right - click to use this item: turns 10 components into a Reinforcement Module. it never ever become's a dark project mk 1 at all. so read the text next time good from the item what it become's. Edited October 2 by Spikanor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draewind Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 (edited) Whatever the item was, same icon and rewarded in the same manner, I combined 10 of them. I did it over a long period of time... atleast 10 weeks for one character. As I acquired them I combined them. I made 6 Dark Project MK-1 from them, having no idea how they were used. I then found that I would need them to open rooms on the Flagship. So, I tried my hand at crafting 4 of them. But, they were not crafted. Instead I received 6 Reinforcement Modules. I began to wonder if possibly the Dark Projects had been replaced, so I waited to combine 10 of (Not certain of their name) now called Reinforcement Components. When I received a Reinforcement Module from combining them, I was thinking that Dark Projects may have been replaced. I know for a fact that I have 6 Dark Projects that were made from combining the 10 items. Then I filed a ticket with customer service. Asked why I did not craft Dark Projects, but Reinforcement Modules, asking whether they had been replaced. I got nothing from them except that I should report a bug. Being able to craft a Dark Project today, I was no longer at a loss and know there was a bug. The (now called) Reinforcement Components still created a Reinforcement Module today. Was that a bug previously that they made Dark Projects? It certainly was a bug when I crafted 6 Reinforment Modules... that aren't crafted items. My guilds are made of only my characters. One is level 42 and the other about 35. It has been 12 or 13 years now, and I doubt that either of them will be level 60 anytime soon, leaving me with useless Reinforcement Modules. If I had the compents refunded I could craft them now. Edited October 2 by Draewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikanor Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 to become lvl 60 has become super super easy now a day's more. you can become lvl 80 all super fast. and i not know how long your break was but if it was more then 10+ years then you need to understand that a lot of things have chance big since the last time you have play. that means also what was back then means not that its still there. also the Reinforcement Modules are need to buy some guild perks with it like some level 2 and lvl 3 perks with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darev Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 8 hours ago, Draewind said: Whatever the item was, same icon and rewarded in the same manner, I combined 10 of them. I did it over a long period of time... atleast 10 weeks for one character. As I acquired them I combined them. I made 6 Dark Project MK-1 from them, having no idea how they were used. I then found that I would need them to open rooms on the Flagship. So, I tried my hand at crafting 4 of them. But, they were not crafted. Instead I received 6 Reinforcement Modules. I began to wonder if possibly the Dark Projects had been replaced, so I waited to combine 10 of (Not certain of their name) now called Reinforcement Components. When I received a Reinforcement Module from combining them, I was thinking that Dark Projects may have been replaced. I know for a fact that I have 6 Dark Projects that were made from combining the 10 items. Then I filed a ticket with customer service. Asked why I did not craft Dark Projects, but Reinforcement Modules, asking whether they had been replaced. I got nothing from them except that I should report a bug. Being able to craft a Dark Project today, I was no longer at a loss and know there was a bug. The (now called) Reinforcement Components still created a Reinforcement Module today. Was that a bug previously that they made Dark Projects? It certainly was a bug when I crafted 6 Reinforment Modules... that aren't crafted items. My guilds are made of only my characters. One is level 42 and the other about 35. It has been 12 or 13 years now, and I doubt that either of them will be level 60 anytime soon, leaving me with useless Reinforcement Modules. If I had the compents refunded I could craft them now. So....this is how it is now, and has been for at least several years. Each week, if you complete conquest, you get a single Reinforcement COMPONENT for each toon that completes conquest. When you save up 10 on a single toon, you can MERGE them into a single Reinforcement MODULE (which has the same graphic as a Dark Project). The Module is turned into the guild bank to be used as payment for a few of the higher end guild perks. The Dark Project, which you can craft, also CAN be turned into the flagship commisioner on fleet at a 1:1 Ration for an encryption. 50 encryptions of the same type = Fragment....when you get 5-6 fragments you can use that (in addition to a few million credits from the guild bank) to unlock a room on the guild ship. The Dark Projects and Reinforcement Modules may LOOK alike/identical, but they are, and have been, separate items that are not interchangable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraak Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, Darev said: So....this is how it is now, and has been for at least several years. Each week, if you complete conquest, you get a single Reinforcement COMPONENT for each toon that completes conquest. When you save up 10 on a single toon, you can MERGE them into a single Reinforcement MODULE (which has the same graphic as a Dark Project). The Module is turned into the guild bank to be used as payment for a few of the higher end guild perks. The Dark Project, which you can craft, also CAN be turned into the flagship commisioner on fleet at a 1:1 Ration for an encryption. 50 encryptions of the same type = Fragment....when you get 5-6 fragments you can use that (in addition to a few million credits from the guild bank) to unlock a room on the guild ship. The Dark Projects and Reinforcement Modules may LOOK alike/identical, but they are, and have been, separate items that are not interchangable. but they don't look alike. They look Similar. If you look at the border of the Reinforcement Module it is Green, if you look at the border of the Dark Project, it is Purple. The symbol in the middle may look the same, but the border difference is very Distinctive and very Different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darev Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 yeah, I should have left "identical" off...but to be fair (generous) at a quick glance you're going to think they're the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I have nothing valuable to add but I want to say this thread reads like a fever dream lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 hours ago, Toraak said: but the border difference is very Distinctive and very Different. More to the point, it's also very **important**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 4 hours ago, eabevella said: I have nothing valuable to add but I want to say this thread reads like a fever dream lol I have to agree, I have no idea what is going on in any capacity but I'm just happy to be here for the ride lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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