Zash Companion

[fatsi]

I had asked for this before (some ages ago) but can we please get Zash as a companion for inquisitors who chose to keep her over Khem Val? I am not expecting anything major. What about a random female character named Darth Zash? Or a CM companion

[Whykara]

+1000 

I have made it my life's purpose to advocate for Zash to return. It's a tragedy that she has been missing for so long. She should at least get a recruitment mission comparable to Khem. I wonder what she's been up to all those years. 

[ElZaguero]

55 minutes ago, Whykara said:

+1000 

I have made it my life's purpose to advocate for Zash to return. It's a tragedy that she has been missing for so long. She should at least get a recruitment mission comparable to Khem. I wonder what she's been up to all those years. 

 

Yeah, OK, sure great idea, but hot young Zash PLEASE, not gross ancient Zash

That reminded me too much of Melisandra (in GOT) taking off her magic ruby and revealing what she really looked like.

[Whykara]

7 minutes ago, ElZaguero said:

Yeah, OK, sure great idea, but hot young Zash PLEASE, not gross ancient Zash

Zash's old body is dead and rotting on Dromund Kaas, she definitely would have to take a new vessel. And I'm sure she'd take a young one ^^

8 minutes ago, ElZaguero said:

That reminded me too much of Melisandra (in GOT) taking off her magic ruby and revealing what she really looked like.

Except Zash did it first 😛

[Spikanor]

so what is going to be the next new companion request the Darth Baras companion?

[Whykara]

1 hour ago, Spikanor said:

so what is going to be the next new companion request the Darth Baras companion?

Probably not. Unlike Zash, Darth Baras has never been a companion in the base game and unlike Zash, he is dead.

[Darcmoon]

8 minutes ago, Whykara said:

Probably not. Unlike Zash, Darth Baras has never been a companion in the base game and unlike Zash, he is dead.

Zash died on Nathema.

[Spikanor]

2 minutes ago, Whykara said:

Probably not. Unlike Zash, Darth Baras has never been a companion in the base game and unlike Zash, he is dead.

same go's for zash also she is also death.

for the sith worrier class you can choose to kill baras or sent him to jail but if you sent him to jail he is still going to die later on.

same with zash. you trap zash spirit for good in khem body or the spirit from zash has a new famale body and is going to die.

so to have a darth zash companion give's no clue to the story part at all

[Whykara]

42 minutes ago, Darcmoon said:

Zash died on Nathema.

She both does and does not. I distinctly remembered explaining it to you, so I looked up my post history. And alas, I was right. I already explained the exact same thing to exactly you 9 months ago:

On 2/18/2023 at 4:56 PM, Whykara said:

If you side with Zash, she does not die on Nathema. Khem does. He somehow took his (or maybe some other Dashade's?) body back and set out to take revenge on you for betraying him. Zash's whereabouts remain unexplained, but she is ressourceful and cunning, I highly doubt she's dead in that timeline. Most likely she transferred her spirit to a new vessel, like she does when you side with Khem. 

When you side with Khem, you later get him back as a companion. But when you side with Zash, you get nothing. 

 

[Darcmoon]

2 hours ago, Whykara said:

She both does and does not. I distinctly remembered explaining it to you, so I looked up my post history. And alas, I was right. I already explained the exact same thing to exactly you 9 months ago:

 

If Khem took back his body then you can assume Zash is dead.  It’s not a guarantee true. However she dies in the one where you side with Khem and while BW/BS has some history with letting killable NPCs contribute for those that don’t kill them they are also part of the main story when used and Zash wouldn’t qualify for that.  It’s a safe bet that BW/BS considers her dead. 

[Ominovin]

Perhaps the more important question is:  Even if Zash is alive, why would she ever come back to work for you???

[Whykara]

3 hours ago, Darcmoon said:

However she dies in the one where you side with Khem

Khem dies if you side with Zash, and he still made a return. Your point is valid, but not in this case. I think it's simply an oversight that Zash has not returned.

3 hours ago, Ominovin said:

Perhaps the more important question is:  Even if Zash is alive, why would she ever come back to work for you???

Why would Ashara.

[Ominovin]

4 hours ago, Whykara said:

Why would Ashara.

Because Ashara is returning to her former 'master' (like a little lost puppy).

Zash would be returning to the pawn that messed up all her plans:  She might or might not like you, but serving you when it isn't absolutely necessary seems extremely unlikely, given the shear amount of pride she would have to swallow... 

Prior to the war with the Eternal Throne, Zash follows you because she literally has no where else to go:.  Given the shear chaos of the war, 'Zash in a fresh body' could probably re-insert herself into the remaining Sith hierarchy with no one being aware of who she actually is, leaving her with near limitless options for advancement:  Getting anywhere near you would be a huge risk...

Edited November 23, 2023 by Ominovin

[fatsi]

On 11/22/2023 at 2:49 PM, Spikanor said:

so what is going to be the next new companion request the Darth Baras companion?

Baras was never a companion in any sense. With Khem, Zash is one of the original companions.

On 11/22/2023 at 8:10 PM, Darcmoon said:

If Khem took back his body then you can assume Zash is dead.  It’s not a guarantee true. However she dies in the one where you side with Khem and while BW/BS has some history with letting killable NPCs contribute for those that don’t kill them they are also part of the main story when used and Zash wouldn’t qualify for that.  It’s a safe bet that BW/BS considers her dead. 

If you side with Zash, on Nathema, Khem does say he killed her, but Zash is much like the Emperor in the sense that she is able to transfer her essence to others' bodies to stay alive. If you side with Khem, Zash appears on Nathema in a new body, who she says was a slave.

[Spikanor]

3 minutes ago, fatsi said:

With Khem, Zash is one of the original companions.

read whykara post is really good and then i mean look 5 post's back then you maybe understand it good that zash is never going to be you companion in khem's body and you never reqruit him back then in that body.

[fatsi]

3 minutes ago, Spikanor said:

read whykara post is really good and then i mean look 5 post's back then you maybe understand it good that zash is never going to be you companion in khem's body and you never reqruit him back then in that body.

Who said I want Zash in Khem's body? She can be in the body of random gal, too. 

[Spikanor]

1 minute ago, fatsi said:

Who said I want Zash in Khem's body? She can be in the body of random gal, too. 

zash second body is also death with his soul this time.

have you not play the Nathema flashpoint at all.

you know that at the flashpoint from the inquisitor on nathema that zash new body if you choose to keep khem soul in is own body that zash new body is fried with his soul also this time.

its the same with baras that his body and soul is fried in the worrier part if you sent him to jail first on the end of chapter 3.

that darth baras was maybe become the next one was sarcasm more.

[fatsi]

5 hours ago, Spikanor said:

zash second body is also death with his soul this time.

have you not play the Nathema flashpoint at all.

you know that at the flashpoint from the inquisitor on nathema that zash new body if you choose to keep khem soul in is own body that zash new body is fried with his soul also this time.

its the same with baras that his body and soul is fried in the worrier part if you sent him to jail first on the end of chapter 3.

that darth baras was maybe become the next one was sarcasm more.

That's not what happens if you had sided with Zash. In that case, Khem dies instead, and you don't see Zash on Nathema at all.

[Spikanor]

22 minutes ago, fatsi said:

That's not what happens if you had sided with Zash. In that case, Khem dies instead, and you don't see Zash on Nathema at all.

if zash is in khem's body trapt then you never ever can get a zash companion at all since that is then not making compleet sence at all for the players that have trap zash soul in khem's body.

at the same time you make compleet no sence at all for the once's that have kill zash new body for good in the same flashpoint.

so left or right it make compleet no sence at all to get a zash companion at all.

its the same for the people that wane have a darh marr companion is also not going to happing for the same reason since he is death and become's a force ghost.

 

edit: lucky for me i have see better worse things then asking for companions from NPC's in the game. since the worst part is and sadly all the players on the Darth malgus server know this all that the imp side has there a darth baras fan club and love's to talk about then and lucky also by that nobody has start a darth baras guild also.

Edited November 24, 2023 by Spikanor

[Whykara]

I really don't get how it's so hard for some people to understand that just because a character is dead in their timeline that doesn't meant they're dead in everyone's timeline. You don't see me complaining about Arcann getting content, just because he always meets a lightsaber in my playthroughs.

If you choose Khem, you should get Khem as a companion. If you choose Zash, you should get Zash as companion. Simple as. 

[Hrafnhildur]

Sorry but NO, when i asked for Rass Ordo companion i was told " NOOOOOO, there are already too many companions!!!! ". 

So, if i cannot get the companion i want, because reasons, why would other players get what they want and (conveniently) ignore the same reasons? 

 

[Whykara]

1 hour ago, Hrafnhildur said:

Sorry but NO, when i asked for Rass Ordo companion i was told " NOOOOOO, there are already too many companions!!!! ". 

So, if i cannot get the companion i want, because reasons, why would other players get what they want and (conveniently) ignore the same reasons? 

Rass Ordo is still part of the current story. As soon as a character becomes a companion they never appear in story again, so be happy that he isn't yet. I'm sure they will add him once they're done with him. Rass and Zash can't be compared though, Zash was a vanilla story companion. Zash returning wouldn't add a new one, it would just give us our 5th story companion back. Inquisitors who chose Zash only get 4 of their companions back as of now and therefore lack one.

[Shayddow]

oddly enough, in the one instance where I had a character choose Zash over Khem, he still got the Khem recruitment mission. And every once in awhile the combat dialogue uses her voice rather than his. That character is on Satele Shan server which I haven't played in awhile, I'll have to check and see if this is still happening 🙂

 

[Tourmaline]

Spoiler

Hate to say, but ... doesn't she get stuck in the rakata mind prison and have no body at the end of the story? Don't think there is a way to make her a companion now.

If I am wrong hey more power to you. Hope you get what you are seeking. Just can't see how it could work?

[Whykara]

2 hours ago, Tourmaline said:

If I am wrong hey more power to you. Hope you get what you are seeking. Just can't see how it could work?

It's entirely your choice if she gets stuck there. You can also choose to put Khem in the box, in that case Zash keeps the Dashade body for herself. On Nathema you then meet Khem, who somehow freed himself and has his (or some other Dashade's body) back. In this timeline it remains unexplained what happened to Zash. It's highly likely though that she is still alive. She's cunning and resourceful and probably has found a better vessel after the Inquisitor vanished.