LordTragidous Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 So in the point that I am in the story. I am playing Jedi Knight on my main. I was hoping to get most characters recruited for the alliance. (I'll leave most of it in spoiler because I don't like talking about spoilers) Spoiler As a Jedi Knight, I chose to side with the Empire in this situation. I later learned that this choice does not matter in the end. You can just go back to the Republic no questions asked. I chose the Empire because Theron's dad was a [mean words]. I honestly forgot his name. Also a character I've never seen before. Didn't even apologize so I said screw him. When he died I thought it was really funny and was like "whatever, bye". The Republic literally abandoned you and actually tried to have you assassinated. I play my Knight as the most heroic. I kind of like the idea that things are not as simple as black and white for ONCE. The REAL consequence and the REAL choice in the end is whether or not you have Elara or Quinn. Had I known this I might have picked the republic because I like her more. It feels really dumb. Elara is "disgusted at the idea of joining the empire". Really? So I am perma locked from Elara on my team for frivolous alliances? good job Bioware. At least I know what to do if I ever get Trooper this far in the story. And yeah I wanted to collect all characters that I could like Pokémon so it is really disappointing that I can't. I have heard that only the Sith Warrior can recruit them both which is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Well duh. Spoiler One is a Republic Loyalist of high loyalty, while the other is an Empire Loyalist of high loyalty. Sounds perfectly reasonable that you can't recruit them both, and equally that if you pick one side, you can't recruit the one who is loyal to the other side. And I have to wonder why you think it was *funny* that someone's parent died. I'm not sorry that I critiqued you on this point, by the way, not since my wife passed away right in front of me in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTragidous Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) Spoiler I recorded this part in obs. He's pretty rude and doesn't apologize. He comes off and maniacal when he tries to take possession of the weapon and gets himself killed. Past Theron's initial reaction he does not ever talk about it ever again other than like a couple remarks confirming his dad did in fact die. In terms of the way it was presented in the story he is disposable and the fact he did not see his own demise coming was in a way "comedic" to me. Edited October 30, 2022 by LordTragidous Deleted my apology because your personal life is yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakRoanin Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I'm not sure if you've done the Trooper or the Sith Warrior classes but both Quinn and Elara have incredibly deep and complex backstories and Personally, I think it's ridiculous that Quinn would side with a SW who... Spoiler Betrays the Empire! In the Trooper story you understand why Elara makes the choice she makes in Iokath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xordevoreaux Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Can't you retrieve both from the holoterminal on Odessen regardless of story progression? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTragidous Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, xordevoreaux said: Can't you retrieve both from the holoterminal on Odessen regardless of story progression? I ought to give you a medal. You actually said the most useful thing out of any forum I've been too. Thanks. Edited October 30, 2022 by LordTragidous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTragidous Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 If I'm being honest. Being the commander of the Eternal Alliance bring about a level of neutrality. I like that idea and hate that Bioware decided to get rid of it almost immediately. Could have brought a level of moral grey area to the story. Literally anyone could join your ranks regardless of creed or affiliation. Until this part of the story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, LordTragidous said: I ought to give you a medal. You actually said the most useful thing out of any forum I've been too. Thanks. Don't forget that Elara occasionally shows up in cut-scenes if you recruited her through the story, but not if you summoned her via the terminal. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anything like that for Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyUSEC Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Steve, kind of off topic but I'm sorry to hear about your loss. And Lord Tragidous, the Alliance is forced to break its neutrality after KOTET ends. Lana tells you in so many words that the Alliance can no longer afford to be neutral, once you lose the Gravestone and the Fleet. You're forced to choose sides and no matter which side you pick, there are consequences. And as has already been said, you can use the terminal in Odessen. Whichever companion you retrieve through the terminal, however, will not appear in any story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/28/2022 at 4:55 PM, JakRoanin said: I'm not sure if you've done the Trooper or the Sith Warrior classes but both Quinn and Elara have incredibly deep and complex backstories and Personally, I think it's ridiculous that Quinn would side with a SW who... Hide contents Betrays the Empire! In the Trooper story you understand why Elara makes the choice she makes in Iokath. I think there is a certain logic for why Quinn sides with the Warrior in that case. The Imperial power structure is more feudal than the Republic, and it's almost historically designed to facilitate Sith powerplays. Many Imperial Soldiers are more loyal specifically to their Sith Lord overseers than they are to the Empire itself or the even the Emperor. Spoiler He's also likely motivated to do so to make up for betraying you to Baras during the class story. He still regrets that and his way of trying to redeem himself in his own eyes is to dedicate himself to the Warrior's goals above all other concerns. Edited November 6, 2022 by OldVengeance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anysao Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Choices have consequences, sometimes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 9:53 AM, OldVengeance said: Hide contents He's also likely motivated to do so to make up for betraying you to Baras during the class story. He still regrets that and his way of trying to redeem himself in his own eyes is to dedicate himself to the Warrior's goals above all other concerns. Except that if that was the case, Spoiler Why didn't he bunk off and search for the warrior like Miss Spooky Eyes did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 He explains why when you speak to him. He did search for a while, but Lorman had him imprisoned for refusing to give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__andrea__ Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 10/30/2022 at 2:21 AM, LordTragidous said: If I'm being honest. Being the commander of the Eternal Alliance bring about a level of neutrality. I like that idea and hate that Bioware decided to get rid of it almost immediately. Could have brought a level of moral grey area to the story. Literally anyone could join your ranks regardless of creed or affiliation. Until this part of the story. YES! I hate that you have to "choose a side" although that later changes somewhat but I wanted my LS Sith Inquisitor to stay neutral. I play it that she joins the Republic to get inside information and play both sides against each other. She doesn't really like or trust either of them but wants to keep an eye on both sides. Plus she's married to Theron and it made him happy to be aligned with Republic at least in words if not thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Once you've finished Iokath you can get the other companion from that computer in the Commander's room on Odessen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamaicanCastle Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 11/16/2022 at 5:23 PM, OldVengeance said: Lorman That's Minister Lorman! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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